Is The Manipulation Of Time Pointless?

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Not really fascinated or enthralled about the subject, it’s curious. Carry on.
 
Time travel is of course possible, always has been.

God exists outside of time and nothing is impossible for God. If He so chose, He could send us to any prior or future time.

That being said, while I know He has allowed saints to view past events (I know one was allowed to view the passion as if she was there), I have never heard of anyone being able to interact with such events.

My guess is no, but I do not know the mind of God.
 
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you need to offer an argument for why it’s not possible.
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Well if evidence was equally ambiguous in favour of organic reverse time travel rather than not then yes.

But given the odds are stacked just a tad against this notion I suspect its the gain-sayers who need to supply an argument how it is possible.

Tangled spaghetti and flux capacitors dont really do it for me I am afraid.
 
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This is impossible according to your teaching since God has foreknowledge of all events which are fixed on the timeline.
 
I’m a time traveler from 1996. I travel forward in time at a rate of 365.24 days per year.
 
Some have attempted to disprove time travel by considering the mind boggeling complexity of putting time machines inside of other time machines. It’s a pretty good arguement imo.
 
Why couldn’t God’s foreknowledge include knowing the actions of time travelers? I don’t think it’s quite that cut and dried.
 
This reminds me of something. I don’t know how math savy you are but I’ll assume at least calculus since you regularly post pretty high level philosophy. (Appreciate your posts btw).

So basically the future would oscillate between a “plague” and a “no plague” state. Well, what state are we in after an infinite number of oscillations?

Now for the math: There’s a sense in which the sequence 0,1,0,1,… forever settles on one half. This is done in the sense that at infinity we are uncertain of the value, but the expected value (average) is one half. Well maybe something similar could happen in the real world.
 
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You didn’t understand me I don’t think. If someone in 2100 goes back in time and ends ww2 before it starts, then God already knows this. There’s no reason that God couldn’t know that ww2 would exist untill 2100 when someone goes back in time and changes it. In fact it makes perfect sense that He would. I would say God has perfect knowledge of all possible human histories, all possible universes He could have created. Otherwise we could not argue that He created the best one, because he wouldn’t know which one that was!
 
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You didn’t understand me I don’t think. If someone in 2100 goes back in time and ends ww2 before it starts, then God already knows this. There’s no reason that God couldn’t know that ww2 would exist untill 2100 when someone goes back in time and changes it. In fact it makes perfect sense that He would. I would say God has perfect knowledge of all possible human histories, all possible universes He could have created. Otherwise we could not argue that He created the best one, because he wouldn’t know which one that was!
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As I said the events on timeline are fixed because God eternally knows that there is a world war II and that cannot change. It is contrary to have two different events at the same point on time line.
 
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You seem to be way overthinking things 😉.
 
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I was thinking about this the other day. It may be that if you went back in time you would just get younger and if you went back far enough you would cease to exist. Of course it was my imagination. 🙂 But what would go back in time? Would you just become your earlier self with no recollection of having gone to the past? If the past is fixed. Of course to go back to a previous time that time would have to still exist and you would be able to access it.
 
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On the other hand God could have taken account your time travel in his fixed knowledge, such that even with your time travel it is incorporated into his plan. That is He would have known that you went to the past from all Eternity.
 
That’s what I already said. He keeps repeating the same arguement as if that’s some sort of refutation.
 
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On the other hand God could have taken account your time travel in his fixed knowledge, such that even with your time travel it is incorporated into his plan. That is He would have known that you went to the past from all Eternity.
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You just cannot have two different events at the same point on time line.
 
If you went back in time though you would still be left with only one time line. Right? It would be a timeline that incorporates you going back in time. So the timeline always had incorporated you going back in time. There was never an alternative timeline because the actual timeline incorporated your future self going back in time.
 
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If you went back in time though you would still be left with only one time line. Right? It would be a timeline that incorporates you going back in time. So the timeline always had incorporated you going back in time. There was never an alternative timeline because the actual timeline incorporated your future self going back in time.
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I am not talking about temporal timeline. I am talking about eternal timeline, God’s perspective. God sustains all events in the universe and that is unique from God’s perspective.
 
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If you went back in time though you would still be left with only one time line. Right? It would be a timeline that incorporates you going back in time. So the timeline always had incorporated you going back in time. There was never an alternative timeline because the actual timeline incorporated your future self going back in time.
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That is only possible if there is a parallel universe which is causally independent from ours. You however need to go from our universe to another one to move forward in time.
 
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