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Some, but not all of our parish priests sing most of the Mass. Is it at the priest’s discretion whether or not it is sung?
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YES!Some, but not all of our parish priests sing most of the Mass. Is it at the priest’s discretion whether or not it is sung?
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I think it is a disciplinary issue. I went to daily Mass once several years ago and the priest apologized in advance because the bishop had required the Mass be sung at least once per year but he (the priest) was tone-deaf.Some, but not all of our parish priests sing most of the Mass. Is it at the priest’s discretion whether or not it is sung?
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I agree! It is truly beautiful…I think it is a disciplinary issue. I went to daily Mass once several years ago and the priest apologized in advance because the bishop had required the Mass be sung at least once per year but he (the priest) was tone-deaf.
There is something about chant (even among the tone-deaf) that elevates the senses above what the spoken word does.
One note, there are no responsorial psalms in the Graduale Romanum; in the Graduale Romanum the responsorial psalm is replaced with the Gradual. The Gradual is a couple of psalm verses; it, along with the offertory, is usually one of the most melismatic parts of the propers. It is divided into two parts. Usually a cantor or the schola intones it, then the entire community (in my case a monastic setting) chants the first verse, then the schola only chants the more difficult second verse. The psalm used for the Gradual is not usually the same psalm as in the missal, though on occasion it is.** Responsorial Psalm and the Alleluia with its verse **
These are the chants between the readings. The Responsorial Psalm with its response is normally taken from the Lectionary as assigned for that day. A “seasonal” Psalm with its response selected from the Lectionary may also be sung. A selection from the Graduale Romanum or the Graduale Simplex may also be used.
In the Graduale Romanum during Lent the Alleluia verse is replaced by the tract. On the first Sunday in Lent it is most of psalm 90(91) and is VERY long! I timed our monks, and it is in the order of 14-15 minutes. Ditto on Psalm Sunday, the tract large chunks of Ps. 21.The Alleluia verse is normally taken from the Lectionary itself or the Graduale. During Lent, the Alleluia is replaced by the Verse before the Gospel.
Thank you. I took that as an excerpt from a much longer pastoral letter on sacred music, so perhaps those points are made elsewhere in his letter.One note, there are no responsorial psalms in the Graduale Romanum; in the Graduale Romanum the responsorial psalm is replaced with the Gradual. The Gradual is a couple of psalm verses; it, along with the offertory, is usually one of the most melismatic parts of the propers. It is divided into two parts. Usually a cantor or the schola intones it, then the entire community (in my case a monastic setting) chants the first verse, then the schola only chants the more difficult second verse. The psalm used for the Gradual is not usually the same psalm as in the missal, though on occasion it is.
The Graduale Simplex on the other hand has a responsorial psalm with antiphon. In the Simplex some of the antiphons are borrowed from the Divine Office.
In the Graduale Romanum during Lent the Alleluia verse is replaced by the tract. On the first Sunday in Lent it is most of psalm 90(91) and is VERY long! I timed our monks, and it is in the order of 14-15 minutes. Ditto on Psalm Sunday, the tract large chunks of Ps. 21.
in any particular instance, it is the priest’s choice. That being said, it is better if the parts are sung. Singing is the highest form of prayer. The more the better. That was part of the reforms of VII. Before, if a choir couldn’t do all the propers, NO parts could be sung. Now, some parts can be sung (priest’s prayers, dialogs, ordinary) for Masses such as Daily Masses and early Sunday morning, and then all the parts could be sung on the Sunday Masses (priest’s prayers, dialogs, ordinary, propers + motets).Some, but not all of our parish priests sing most of the Mass. Is it at the priest’s discretion whether or not it is sung?
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