Is the Mormon God/Heavenly Father described in the Bible?

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TexanKnight said:
For years, trheir temple ceremony indicated Catholics were Satan’s messengers. Their own Apostle wrote a book before he was an Apostle (guess they liked what he wrote) called Mormon Doctrine where the Catholic Church was called the “Great and Abominable Church”. They try to act like none of that exists or existed as they try to become more mainstream, but we all know the truth that they tried to sugar coat.
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I’m sure many Mormons still believe it. When I was reverting back to Catholicism form LDS my ex-wife and her mother told me that I was possessed by Satan. Actually so did the Bishop in our ward. Which also confirms to me that we believe in different Gods. It’s not like I was becoming a Atheist, it was because I wasn’t following “their” God, even though I was still following God. The true God.
 
TexanKnight said:
Satan told Eve that they could become gods
Joseph Smith told his people they could become gods

Satan believes in the Bible…sort of
Joseph Smith taught to believe in the Bible…sort of…

Jesus said His Church would never be defeated
Joseph Smith says Jesus’ church WAS defeated…

Coincidence?

I urge my LDS brethren to leave that Church and we will welcome you with incredibly open arms to the true Church that Christ established before He left the earth and that He PROMISED would never be defeated. We will welcome you into fellowship that includes HIS body and HIS blood…We will welcome you into a fellowship that includes a loving Mother to whom we can go to for comfort and to whom we can as to aid us in our Petitions to God.

We will welcome you.
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Amen. Not only will we all welcome you, Janderich, Mormon Cultist, ParkerD, but Jesus Himself will welcome you.
I was raised in a sect very similar to yours guys - we had our own prophetess who claimed visions, claimed all churches were in apostasy, the whole same deal.
There’s a difference between having the faith of a sheep that follows its Shepherd, and a lemming who walks blindly off a cliff.
Come on home lads. I’m headed there myself. 🙂
 
Janderich said:
AofF 8: “We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly;…”
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Which translation is the correct one according to LDS teaching. Is there an approved commentary available on the LDS preferred Bible?
 
1voice said:
Which translation is the correct one according to LDS teaching. Is there an approved commentary available on the LDS preferred Bible?
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We use the KJV with the recognition that some of the passages are incorrect. Joseph Smith started a translation of the Bible but was unable to complete it. Emma Smith retained the pages and it was later published by the Reorganized Church (now Community of Christ). While some of the passages of the Joseph Smith translation are referred to in the footnotes of our reprint of the KJV the church has not officially accepted it because of the above reasons.
 
On John Ankerberg show this weekend

SANDRA TANNER & DR. Wilder & husband Michael Wilder ex-LDS High Priest
Dr. Wilder ex BYU prof

You’ll find on Daystar channel:thumbsup:

very interesting
 
Are you sure you don’t want to just come home Janderich? When you read that “apostate” St. Augustine’s Confessions, doesn’t something stir in you at all? Do all the multiple varying accounts of Joseph Smith`s visions ever trouble you…or the multiple changes to the text of the Book of Mormon…or the early racism in the movement…or the continually changing doctrines…does it bother you at all:confused:

Give going to Mass a try, just once Janderich. You will not be disappointed friend.👍
 
Or the infinite regression of gods…has to be hard to swallow. Polyandry. Polygamy. Seriously, why stick around in the fog. There is a clear place to breath.
 
Janderich said:
We use the KJV with the recognition that some of the passages are incorrect. Joseph Smith started a translation of the Bible but was unable to complete it. Emma Smith retained the pages and it was later published by the Reorganized Church (now Community of Christ). While some of the passages of the Joseph Smith translation are referred to in the footnotes of our reprint of the KJV the church has not officially accepted it because of the above reasons.
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Is there a source that lists the verses in the KJV that the LDS Church considers to be incorrect?
 
Back to the OP…the Bible describes nothing like the LDS god. And the Bible tells us what to do when someone teaches a different God or Gospel
 
TexanKnight said:
Back to the OP…the Bible describes nothing like the LDS god. And the Bible tells us what to do when someone teaches a different God or Gospel
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You are perfectly right it is written many times.
How can you go against it? You have to invent a new parametre, if not you cannot slide in the discussion. So whoever want to rely in something different have to have faith in the apostasy. When you believe in apostasy you can believe in anything else. The apostasy open the door to every form of aberration.
 
Mormonism is another form of apostasy created by those who left Christianity to appeal to man’s passion.

The true interpreter of Sacred Scripture is the Holy Spirit through Christ Jesus vs Joseph Smith. How many times dose Sacred Scripture warn us not to put our confidence in man!!!

Do not trust man with the life of your eternal soul.
 
KathleenGee said:
Mormonism is another form of apostasy created by those who left Christianity to appeal to man’s passion.

The true interpreter of Sacred Scripture is the Holy Spirit through Christ Jesus vs Joseph Smith. How many times dose Sacred Scripture warn us not to put our confidence in man!!!

Do not trust man with the life of your eternal soul.
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Kathleen, I think you mean immortal soul here. 🙂

eternal |iˈtərnl|
adjective
lasting or existing forever; without end or beginning : the secret of eternal youth | fear of eternal damnation.

immortal |i(m)ˈmôrtl|
adjective
living forever; never dying or decaying : our mortal bodies are inhabited by immortal souls.
 
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Is there a source that lists the verses in the KJV that the LDS Church considers to be incorrect?
Janderich said:
No, nothing official. There seem to be a few sites showing the Joseph Smith translation. Here is one centerplace.org/hs/iv2kjv/default.htm.
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Are all of the KJV Bible verses that are considered to be incorrect only found in the Joseph Smith translation or are there other sources. If so, where are they found and who made the decision in each case?
 
We knew what she meant…and based on the over 4000 corrections made in the Book of Mormon, LDS folks are the last folks who should argue over typos
 
Janderich said:
TarkanAttila, Revelation is an important piece of the foundation. It is not the only piece however. The church is also built on prophets and apostles with Christ himself being the chief cornerstone (see Eph 2:20). That is why we have apostles and prophets today.

Priesthood is another important piece. From before the creation of the world priesthood was held. It was given to Adam and passed down to the present day.

Another piece was ordinances. Baptism and the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost among others.

I don’t know that were in disagreement much here. I’m sure we could argue about the details of what I am saying but probably not the main points.
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But… prophets and apostles operate on personal revelation… (Unless a “prophet” or “apostle” means something other than “one who receives a direct message from God and teaches it” and “one of the original 12 who received witnessed, followed, and revelations from Jesus whilst He was in the world” respectively.)

And while I agree Catholic priesthood, baptism, and the other Catholic sacraments are all important to the faith, we’re talking theologically. And while the priesthood and the sacraments are indeed theological in nature, primarily the Roman Church receives Her theology from Tradition.

Tradition includes Sacred Scripture (the writings of the Apostles themselves), the Traditions of the Church declared authoritatively after the Apostles (including Mary being the Mother of God, and the monotheistic Trinity), and the teaching authority of the Church driven by the Pope (apostolic descendant of Peter), and the patriarchs, archbishops, and bishops (apostolic descendants of the Apostles).

In short, the Apostles - whom Christ instituted as the Church - drive the theology of the Roman Church in whole.

Unlike Mormons, we believe Apostolic Succession means that what the Apostles taught is what we are to believe. Looking at history, we can only determine that what the Apostles themselves taught has been preserved since the beginning. There never was a total apostasy, and therefore the Church of Rome - as well as the Church of Constantinople, and its dependent Churches - teach today what Christ taught the Apostles, and the Apostles, consequently, taught theirs. We are built on Christ’s Church - the Apostles - and not for one second do we believe Christ abandoned us to Hell, much less for 1000-2000 years (before Joseph Smith and his peepstone came along).
 
Janderich said:
TarkanAttila, Revelation is an important piece of the foundation. It is not the only piece however. The church is also built on prophets and apostles with Christ himself being the chief cornerstone (see Eph 2:20). That is why we have apostles and prophets today.

Priesthood is another important piece. From before the creation of the world priesthood was held. It was given to Adam and passed down to the present day.

Another piece was ordinances. Baptism and the laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost among others.

I don’t know that were in disagreement much here. I’m sure we could argue about the details of what I am saying but probably not the main points.
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Think of it this way:

A man states that important parts of the Bible have been interpreted incorrectly. The only proof that he offers is that he has been told so by God.

… The fact that he has gained a following in no way changes the central point that he made fundamental changes that contradict … with the stated purpose of discrediting all other established Christian Creeds … based only on his personal experience … and his word alone.

Can you see how that position is one that is questionable to a person looking at it from a distance?
 
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