Is the price of intellectual property worth it?

[Anony_Mous]

From this thread, I come to realize that those who do not believe we have a spirit or a soul, or understand the implied responsibilities for it, will find it difficult to understand this thread topic.

I am sorry if this implies to anybody here.

 

[Maddie26]

I am sorry you can’t make yourself clear. Would you please show where I have indicated I do not believe we have a spirit or soul? My whole life is based around the Catholic faith and I agree fully with all her doctrines revealed in the Bible or Sacred Tradition so I need to know how I am giving scandal.

 

[Anony_Mous]

I am sorry you can’t make yourself clear. Would you please show where I have indicated I do not believe we have a spirit or soul? My whole life is based around the Catholic faith and I agree fully with all her doctrines revealed in the Bible or Sacred Tradition so I need to know how I am giving scandal.

Hi Maddie26.
Please quote what part of my post(s) (words /phrasing) you do not understand.
Much confusion arises when people say the same things but use different definitions.
So please provide your definition of the word/phrase you wish to explore.

 

[Maddie26]

. Maddie26 said: I thought you were saying that people should not be paid for intellectual work because they are proud and self serving. Am I misunderstanding you?

Anonymous Mous said: Yes.

To which sentence does the “Yes” apply?

Are you saying that ALL intellectual property is worldly? If so, Fulton Sheen and St JP2 are sinners. This says you are saying so:

. Intellectual property** is **worldly knowledge gained, claimed, and invested

Emphasis mine.

If you’re saying that pride is a sin then no kidding.

Does a writer of any book deserve to be paid for his work?

Is writing a book ipso facto sinful?

And can you show where I have said or implied I do not believe in the soul, or in any Catholic doctrine?

 

[Anony_Mous]

My words in blue.

To which sentence does the “Yes” apply?
The sentence with the question mark.

Are you saying that ALL intellectual property is worldly? No. If so, Fulton Sheen and St JP2 are sinners. This says you are saying so: Emphasis mine.
However, the word ‘property’ may also imply possession attributed to self, and not as a gift from God.

If you’re saying that pride is a sin then no kidding.

Does a writer of any book deserve to be paid for his work?
I don’t know about deserved. Does a writer of porn deserve to be paid for his work?

Is writing a book ipso facto sinful? ipso facto - No.

And can you show where I have said or implied I do not believe in the soul, or in any Catholic doctrine?
I did not imply such a thing to you.
It was a post not addressed to any one person.
It was a general statement of my observation, quote: “I come to realize that those who do not believe we have a spirit or a soul, or understand the implied responsibilities for it, will find it difficult to understand this thread topic.”
It does not include those who believe they have a soul, or understood what that implied. But I am guilty of assuming such a person would understand the topic of the thread.

 

[St_Francis]

Hi Maddie26.
Please quote what part of my post(s) (words /phrasing) you do not understand.
Much confusion arises when people say the same things but use different definitions.
So please provide your definition of the word/phrase you wish to explore.

“Is the price of intellectual property worth it?”

Your question and thread title are worded to indicate that IP has a price, and your other posts suggest that the price is the harm to the soul caused when people create IP to glorify themselves.

However, that harm is not a price of IP, as you admit that not everyone produces IP to glorify themselves.

The price, then, is not the price of producing IP but of sinning.

 

[Anony_Mous]

“Is the price of intellectual property worth it?”

Your question and thread title are worded to indicate that IP has a price, and your other posts suggest that the price is the harm to the soul caused when people create IP to glorify themselves.

However, that harm is not a price of IP, as you admit that not everyone produces IP to glorify themselves.

Yes, to the above.
I am sorry I did not make it clearer.

…The price, then, is not the price of producing IP but of sinning.

Yes, if ‘sinning’ is a transgression from the truth.
The main concern is using up one’s soul on self-exploitation. Which leaves nothing of value, but a self-fabricated story of self-esteem (ego-energy) which is not valid, but a delusion of self-importance.

 

[Maddie26]

So you are saying that self aggrandisement and any work done simply for the purpose of gaining money is not worth the eternal repercussions of sin? The Church has been saying this for 2000 years, so you’re on safe ground here. Intellectual property really has nothing to do with your post.

I’m going to go out on a limb here to answer your question.

I said: Does a writer of any book deserve to be paid for his work?
Reply: I don’t know about deserved. Does a writer of porn deserve to be paid for his work?

First I will clarify that I do not endorse sinful or impure materials that are intended or used for sinful purposes. I do not believe that producing such a work or perusing such a work is worth the eternal consequences given that persons on both sides are committing a Mortal Sin. However…
To give the example of a Mills and Boon book, some of which are frankly pornographic. If Person A writes the book and Person B reads the book then, yes, I believe that person B should pay. I don’t think questionable material should be free. That would only make it more readily available. Otherwise we’d have a sliding scale where religious books would be too expensive for the average person the read and trashy books would be free. This is obviously ridiculous. This is, however, a huge topic and a wild digression.

 

[St_Francis]

Yes, to the above.
I am sorry I did not make it clearer.

It can be difficult! Sometimes I see what I mean so clearly that it’s hard to write it so others can understand!

Yes, if ‘sinning’ is a transgression from the truth.
The main concern is using up one’s soul on self-exploitation. Which leaves nothing of value, but a self-fabricated story of self-esteem (ego-energy) which is not valid, but a delusion of self-importance.

I think most on CAF would agree with you. In fact, this can be a personal issue for those who write or do similar things like making movies. Were you hoping to discuss the difficulties a Catholic might have in endeavors like this?