Is the question of God's existence the most important question of your life?

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The burden is on whoever wants to prove something. Not everyone is out to prove something.

I dont HAVE to lift a finger for every single insecure person who demands a sign, proof,empirical evidence…

If an atheist, for example, says to me…’‘you have the burden to prove God exists or else I wont believe…’’ I point out to them that they are the one wanting to know whether or not God exists - not me!

Interestingly, the Great Commission doesnt mention anything about proving that God’s Kingdom is at hand. All Christian evangelists have to do is proclaim it as a fact.
 
belorg said:
You are the one making the claim, so the burden is on you.
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You are the one claiming that there is a burden of proof. Please prove this is true without referring to positivism, since there hasn’t been positive proof of positivism.

Should be easy since you proved that God does not exist, something that people have been having issues with it since at least recorded history.
 
belorg said:
That is a good illustration of what I mean. The theist, upon hearing this, immediately jumps to the conclsuion that God must have done it. The scientist tries to figure out how that might work.
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What if physics only works because a mind invented it? Do you think that without a mind willing laws into existence there can be anything but chaos?
 
belorg
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You are the one making the claim, so the burden is on you.**

Every assertion is a claim. If one asserts there is no God, that is a claim. The burden of proof goes both ways!
 
InJesusItrust said:
You are the one claiming that there is a burden of proof. Please prove this is true without referring to positivism, since there hasn’t been positive proof of positivism.

Should be easy since you proved that God does not exist, something that people have been having issues with it since at least recorded history.
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No, in fact it’s Tony who wants me to prove something.
 
InJesusItrust said:
What if physics only works because a mind invented it? Do you think that without a mind willing laws into existence there can be anything but chaos?
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Do you think that without laws there can be anything but chaos? If so, then how can there be a mind?
 
snarflemike said:
Strange how physical reality aligns itself so perfectly with pure, abstract mathematics.

dartmouth.edu/~matc/MathDrama/reading/Wigner.html
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Exactly. If someone just threw buckets of paint on paper and someone painted the Sistine chapel–its a bit like what naturalists are claiming. Information implies a mind, and the data looks a lot like information. Laws are ordered and not chaotic. If you saw a sofa in a cave you would infer that someone’s living there rather than undirected natural processes and luck.
 
belorg said:
*It seems you don’t have to prove anything at all! You make yourself infallible and invulnerable as if you have privileged insight into the nature of reality… *
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Not to give a reason for rejecting a claim implies that you cannot think of a reason! You not only make yourself invulnerable but also unconvincing… 🙂
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belorg said:
No, in fact it’s Tony who wants me to prove something.
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And it’s belorg who wants to prove nothing - as if he has nothing to prove!

As King Lear said, nothing shall come of nothing…
 
The question of God’s existence is not one of much importance to me, as I believe and I know He exists, and I always will.
aspirant said:
I would not say that it is the most important question for me, but I do not doubt God’s existence. For others, I think it may be very important.
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Indeed.
 
tonyrey said:
And it’s belorg who wants to prove nothing - as if he has nothing to prove!

As King Lear said, nothing shall come of nothing…
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No, I do not have anything to prove in this thread. I know what I discovered.
 
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Wasn’t King Lear insane? **

It’s unclear whether he was insane or two of his insane daughters put his head in a spin. 😉
 
belorg
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I know what I discovered.**

You discovered a non-existing God. Very clever, I’m sure. 👍😉
 
If we die not believing in the existence of God, we are doomed. So yes, it is the most important question in life.
 
The question of my own existence has been the most important question of my life. The fact that I exist is the most absurd idea that has ever occurred to me. The question of God’s existence is dependent on that question.
 
meltzerboy said:
Do you know that we are doomed if we don’t believe in G-d when we die for a fact, based on Catholic theology?
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No, he doesnt. Maybe he thinks he does, but thinking you know and actually knowing are two different things.
 
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