Why be Catholic when there are valid sacraments in the Easter Orthodox?
Well, for starters they have not held any council meetings in centuries and we think it is because they know there is such an internal schism that it would become a forum for formal division and splintering and give strong evidence that they are just another dieing branch of the true apostolic church.
Like your councils of Siene? Basel? Constance? Vienne? Pisa? Lyons II?
They also lack deeper theological developments in areas like purgatory.
Yes, we lack many accretions.
Their scholarship is severely declining.
LOL. Sorry, we are not as progressive as many of your “theologians,” it is true. How do you spell Crouchen’s name?
Also they lack “universality”.
I need a good laugh: explain how we lack “universality.”
It is clear that the EO is not in anyway representative of the apostolic “universal” church in scope or influence or numbers.
Just the little flock being led by the Good Shephard down the narrow road through the narrow gate.
The EO simply does not scale to the domain of “universal” - so its is decidedly NOT Catholic.
The One, Holy, CATHOLIC and Apostolic Church, the ones who stick to what the Apostles taught.
I met an Orthodox woman who I wanted to date. She told me she would not date a mere Catholic. They look down on us and think they are better. But at the same time they have adopted some very secular attitudes. This particular woman was divorced 2 times.
And you wanted to date her why?
When I asked her if she had annulments for that she laughed and said "no, in the Orthodox church the bishops set the rules - and mine says I get to remarry up to 3 husbands if it does not work out and there is good reason to grant divorce’. I shook my head
I’d shake mine too. What were here “good reason?”
as I saw the complete bankruptcy in this area of Orthodoxy.
Haven’t looking into the qorban of anullments?
It is my opinion that when all is said and done, if EO do not re-align with the Vatican they will maintain the pretty rites then water down the religion to the point where it will look very similar to the older school protestant faiths.
Hasn’t happe in a thousand years, won’t happen in a thousand more.
If we “realigned with the Vatican” in time for Vatican II, we would be just in time for all the problems you’ve had the last 4 decades.
Also the EO are unable to hold together their widely divergent views and reel in rogue bishops
and what rogue bishops do we have to reel in?
We just deposed the Patriarch of Jerusalem for misrule, so what are you talking about?
since they lack a unifying authority like we have at the Vatican. In the Latin Church if a bishop starts preaching heresy - he is defrocked and excommunicated - end of heresy.
LOL. In the US, most Orthodox are happy that the Vatican is claiming such a tight reign for the simple reason of keeping his bishops here somewhat in line, so they don’t wander off too much.
On a more positive note the EO have enormous spirituality and are our brothers. We in the west find their devotions to icons and a few obscure old saints very strange - but in general the Orthodox have a very pious and highly respected spirituality. Their services are breathtaking and I wish the West would reincorporate more of that tradition and push back some against the modern mass rites and rediscover the byzantine rites.
Thank you. We like your B XVI and JP II too.