Is the redistribution of wealth and resources just to alleviate poverty?

[Robert_Sock]

What in this miserable and corrupt world is fair? Was the industrial revolution fair to the Third-World? Did the top 2% of the richest people obtain their money fairly? Surly it’s not from the perspective of those living in extreme poverty. We steal resources from the impoverished countries, such as those in Africa. It’s time justice is served and severe poverty gets eliminated, even if it costs the well-to-do some of their riches. In considering what is fair and just, remember that there are 9,500 children who die of starvation every day. Please, I ask you, is it fair?

LOVE!

 

[CrossofChrist]

Of course it is just, at least to a certain extent.

 

[TEPO]

No, not for African kids or anyone else outside my country.

I support seperation not unification.

 

[Rence]

There is nothing fair about forced redistribution of wealth and resources either.

 

[Corki]

“Other”

The goal is just. The mechanism used to accomplish this goal may be just or unjust.

 

[Robert_Sock]

Isaiah 58:7-10

Thus says the Lord:
Share your bread with the hungry,
and shelter the homeless poor,
clothe the man you see to be naked
and do not turn from your own kin.
Then will your light shine like the dawn
and your wound be quickly healed over.

Your integrity will go before you
and the glory of the Lord behind you.
Cry, and the Lord will answer;
call, and he will say, ‘I am here.’

If you do away with the yoke,
the clenched fist, the wicked word,
if you give your bread to the hungry,
and relief to the oppressed,
your light will rise in the darkness,
and your shadows become like noon.

 

[Robert_Sock]

No, not for African kids or anyone else outside my country.

I support seperation not unification.

Do you consider those living in extreme poverty in other parts of the world to be you neighbor?

Mark 12:31 RSV
The second is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these."

How do you reconcile your attitude to the commandment of Christ?

LOVE!

 

[TEPO]

Do you consider those living in extreme poverty in other parts of the world to be you neighbor?

Mark 12:31 RSV
The second is this, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these."

How do you reconcile your attitude to the commandment of Christ?

LOVE!

I have nothing to do with them. I do not know them, they have their own lives separate from mine. I will not help them regardless of emotion.

I will help my children, and everyone else’s children who live within my nation -the United States of America. I will sacrifice my life for these people only. These people are my only neighbors.

 

[marywarfield]

No it is not just to alleviate material poverty.
It is a prayer, for those who choose to actively
participate, to recognize their own place under God,
to increase their own “poverty of spirit” and humility.
Do you think for one minute the well off are well
off do to only their own decision? Did God allow it
or even assist? For what purpose? His purposes not
the purposes of those currently enjoying the wealth.
Every good thing anyone has on this planet
belongs, yes, belongs not to themselves but to God.
This is why Jesus says if someone asks you for
your cloak don’t hold back. It’s not your cloak it is
the cloak God “lent” to you.

 

[GEddie]

If anything is situational, the answer to your question is.

It first of all depends on what is meant by “poverty.” If someone is dying of hunger, or facing financial ruin due to natural events (including severe illness), then yes, this would be the classic example of “there but for the grace of God go I.”

However, taking from someone to help another just because they live in a poorer area or cannot afford the college of their choice would be over the top.

Likewise, “redistribution” is done by the civil society; and its primary duty is to its citizens. Doing it to help its own citizens would be acceptable, doing so to help “the poor” in other nations might be over the top, as no group of people in a country can be held responsible for the world.

ICXC NIKA.

 

[Robert_Sock]

If anything is situational, the answer to your question is.

It first of all depends on what is meant by “poverty.” If someone is dying of hunger, or facing financial ruin due to natural events (including severe illness), then yes, this would be the classic example of “there but for the grace of God go I.”

However, taking from someone to help another just because they live in a poorer area or cannot afford the college of their choice would be over the top.

Likewise, “redistribution” is done by the civil society; and its primary duty is to its citizens. Doing it to help its own citizens would be acceptable, doing so to help “the poor” in other nations might be over the top, as no group of people in a country can be held responsible for the world.

ICXC NIKA.

Who do you consider to be your neighbor? Did not Christ command us to love our neighbors as ourselves? How do you reconcile your belief with Christ’s second commandment?

LOVE!

 

[NextElement]

I believe in helping the poor and caring for them, but I’m not sure forced redistribution of wealth by governments at odds with my beliefs are the way to go. I support Christian and Catholic mercy and generosity.

In regards to economic systems, the sad truth is that they are headed by people on both sides who are greedy and could care less about the poor. They are only interested in gaining more money and power for themselves. Christ is the only alleviation at this point…

 

[DarkLight]

Likewise, “redistribution” is done by the civil society; and its primary duty is to its citizens. Doing it to help its own citizens would be acceptable, doing so to help “the poor” in other nations might be over the top, as no group of people in a country can be held responsible for the world.

ICXC NIKA.

The difficulty with this is that we are in a global economy. Our efforts and choices in this country may vastly change the availability of jobs and resources in another place. If our corporations place factories in third-world countries to sell products to us, I think that gives us some responsibility towards them.

 

[TEPO]

The difficulty with this is that we are in a global economy. Our efforts and choices in this country may vastly change the availability of jobs and resources in another place. If our corporations place factories in third-world countries to sell products to us, I think that gives us some responsibility towards them.

We have no responsibility to any other nation. Ancient tribal peoples have been trading goods and resources since the dawn of time, yet they weren’t considered global. This modern “globalization” ideal is a Masonic pipe dream based on the domination of ‘order’.

Those with the power make all the choices. We need to break up that power with more monetary systems (not the Euro), and more separate nations (not Europa). Variety creates choice.

…as the worlds greatest economy, only we have the option to do this.

 

[TEPO]

We also don’t need a UN, especially not based on our own soil… Let’s boycott them and send them off on their way!

…that is unless we have a lust for power -then we can keep driving the world aimlessly with hidden agendas and goals.

 

[DarkLight]

We have no responsibility to any other nation. Ancient tribal peoples have been trading goods and resources since the dawn of time, yet they weren’t considered global. This modern “globalization” ideal is a Masonic pipe dream based on the domination of ‘order’.

Those with the power make all the choices. We need to break up that power with more monetary systems (not the Euro), and more separate nations (not Europa). Variety creates choice.

What way is there for the smaller countries to gain power? Our corporations can threaten them into submission.

As far as globalization is concerned, it has not before now been common for one region’s economy to depend entirely on trade, nor for a wide mass of people to commonly purchase goods from outside their own home. For most of human history the vast majority of people worked to feed and clothe and house themselves and their immediate community, producing all the necessary goods themselves. Imports were a luxury of the rich. Now we have reversed it - “Made in America” goods are often the luxury goods!

 

[Robert_Sock]

We have no responsibility to any other nation. Ancient tribal peoples have been trading goods and resources since the dawn of time, yet they weren’t considered global. This modern “globalization” ideal is a Masonic pipe dream based on the domination of ‘order’.

Those with the power make all the choices. We need to break up that power with more monetary systems (not the Euro), and more separate nations (not Europa). Variety creates choice.

1 John 3:17-18
“If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? 18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.”

LOVE!

 

[Neofight]

No. It’s reason is twofold.

It is to show our willingness to, as Christ told the rich young man, to sell all we have, give the proceeds to the poor and then follow him.

And to show our commitment to the other commandment that is like the first.

 

[GEddie]

We have no responsibility to any other nation. Ancient tribal peoples have been trading goods and resources since the dawn of time, yet they weren’t considered global. This modern “globalization” ideal is a Masonic pipe dream based on the domination of ‘order’.

Those with the power make all the choices. We need to break up that power with more monetary systems (not the Euro), and more separate nations (not Europa). Variety creates choice.

…as the worlds greatest economy, only we have the option to do this.

I agree with your first part, not the second.

Globalism is a mirage; any chance of realizing it perished in the smoke above NYC and Virginia in 2001.

However, we need to support the Euro and the EC and try to expand the concept. Not just for financial stability; for the sake of human life. If somehow we managed (we can’t) to revert the nations of the world to what existed prior to WW2, we will get WW3.

ICXC NIKA

 

[TEPO]

1 John 3:17-18
“If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that person? 18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.”

LOVE!

I trust my conscience over your cherry picked bible passages. What you talk about is destruction. You can count me out.

My goal is my children’s children, not someone else’s children. The US is my house and this house is a mess.