Is the Reformation still continuing today or has it ended?

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Is the Protestant Reformation still continuing today or has it ended after the death of the Last Protestant Reformer?

I believe it is still continuing because Protestant Churches are still spliting and forming new churches based on the doctrine of Sola Scriptura.
 
I believe it continues. The guy from work at thinks catholics worship statues, his church was founded by a woman a few years ago, has a large following, and teaches stuff I never heard of in any church whatever. So I’d say the reformation continues apace 😦
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Is the Protestant Reformation still continuing today or has it ended after the death of the Last Protestant Reformer?

I believe it is still continuing because Protestant Churches are still spliting and forming new churches based on the doctrine of Sola Scriptura.
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As long as Jesus still is head of the Church, it continues.
 
SIA said:
As long as Jesus still is head of the Church, it continues.
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the question remains thought. You know as well as I, that not all Protestant Christians share the same beliefs on several issues on morals, doctrine, etc.

so why God allow of Christians to teach contradictory beliefs?
 
Well, wikipedia says that it ended in 1848.

I suppose that historians might disagree as to when it ended but I doubt you will find a serious historian that says it has not ended.

Of course if you find one I will gladly admit I am wrong.

Now will you admit you are wrong if you don’t find a credible historian that agrees with you.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Is the Protestant Reformation still continuing today or has it ended after the death of the Last Protestant Reformer?

I believe it is still continuing because Protestant Churches are still spliting and forming new churches based on the doctrine of Sola Scriptura.
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Fro me, Manny, the reformation cannot end until there is unity again. IOW, I distinguish between reformation and protestantism in that a reformationist should constantly seek dialogue and the Holy Spirit’s guidance toward unity, whereas a protestant is comfortable in separation and sees no need for visible Christian unity. This is my thought, at least.

Jon
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Is the Protestant Reformation still continuing today or has it ended after the death of the Last Protestant Reformer?

I believe it is still continuing because Protestant Churches are still spliting and forming new churches based on the doctrine of Sola Scriptura.
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Manny,

My fellow Lutheran, Jon, has given a good answer. I would add that THE Reformation (that 16th century event) continues, and will continue, as long as there are non-Catholics who hope for reconciliation. The idea of reformation only is valid if there is a hope that agreement on differences can be reached. The analogy has been made that among the non-Catholics there are exiles and emigrants. The exiles long for the day when they can return home, i.e., when the necessary changes have happened in the homeland so that they can, in good conscience, return; the emigrants have left and are not looking back. For the emigrants, reformation is no longer a possibility.

I would not consider the various, and continuing splits, among the non-Catholics as evidence of a continuing reformation, although those involved might think it is.
 
gcnuss said:
Manny,

My fellow Lutheran, Jon, has given a good answer. I would add that THE Reformation (that 16th century event) continues, and will continue, as long as there are non-Catholics who hope for reconciliation. The idea of reformation only is valid if there is a hope that agreement on differences can be reached. The analogy has been made that among the non-Catholics there are exiles and emigrants. The exiles long for the day when they can return home, i.e., when the necessary changes have happened in the homeland so that they can, in good conscience, return; the emigrants have left and are not looking back. For the emigrants, reformation is no longer a possibility.

I would not consider the various, and continuing splits, among the non-Catholics as evidence of a continuing reformation, although those involved might think it is.
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I agree with Pastor here on the continuing splits. These, to me, are evidence of the “emigrants”, as usually they move further away from the faith of the early church.

When those of us in the reformation churches nolonger care about unity, or become comfortable in separation, the reformation is over, and will have failed.

I think the point to Manny and others would be, we reformationists are here, longing for unity, and are willing to dialogue and pray with you for as long as it takes for the HS to bring us together.

Jon
 
Wanna hear something funny? I think that the Catholic Church is now helping to reform the reformation churches.

Just look at abortion. We carried the flag, when so many others at best took a silent approach and at worst sided with the world. Now, many denominations are sliding back to God’s side, and the ones that are not are really having a tough go of it.

The fact that we stand firm on issues is a sign to the others. Look at the Anti-Prop 8 people in California. They are so busy attacking us and the LDS that the other Christain groups have a certain level of freedom to join the fight.

I also think that it continues as long as there are humans in the Church. We will always need to reform. I think that the other side of it will continue too, as there will always be those who “discover” the faith again and split off. Not to mention those who split for non-theological reasons.
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Is the Protestant Reformation still continuing today or has it ended after the death of the Last Protestant Reformer?

I believe it is still continuing because Protestant Churches are still spliting and forming new churches based on the doctrine of Sola Scriptura.
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Manny,

From an historical viewpoint perhaps a reasonable date to alight upon to suggest the end of the Reformation is 1570. It was in that year that the pope excommunicated Queen Elizabeth I (he evidently didn’t think Good Queen Bess was quite as good as the English Protestant sycophants were making her out to be).

But even if the Reformation is regarded as an historical event limited to a certain number of years Protestantism continued (and still does). For many a year English Catholics felt the full force of that protesting spirit. Indeed, it wasn’t until 1829 that the Catholic Emancipation Act was passed in Britain and not until 1850 that the hierarchy was restored. The wordsmith, Cardinal Newman, writing in 1864 against a backcloth of generations of persecution of Catholics by their Protestant countrymen, commented, “But, I suppose, in truth, there is nothing at all, however base, up to the high mark of Titus Oates, which a Catholic may not expect to be believed of him by Protestants, however honourable and hardheaded.”

fordham.edu/halsall/mod/newman/newman1.html

I’ve even heard stories handed down from the years following World War I telling of how people would sometimes spit at Catholics in the streets of London as they made their way to Mass on Sunday morning. Not exactly in line with John 17, you might think.

On the other hand, you might just say it’s not over until the fat lady sings, tra–la,

Grace and peace,
Mick
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People will continue to be restless, and continue to re-invent religion, till the end times, whenever that is. It is a mystery as to why the Lord is letting things play out the way they are happening, but part of it is free-will.

God had aways been involved with religion on this Earth, up till some point with Christ’s ministry on this Earth, and at his departure, the Holy Spirit took over, in leading our hearts to God. Seems at some point there was a big disconnect, allowing the re-inventing of religion, where people were just following their hearts, when they were recreating church.

Seems like when people feel the big ship (the church), is going in the wrong direction, they jump off into a smaller boat and go in another direction, and when those boats are going in the wrong direction, they jump off again onto other boats.

Some people have abandoned religion, and they are going the spiritual route, while others need a structured church service to go to.

I have done research for many years on the Near Death Experience, and find totally mixed results on Religion and Spirituality.

Religion and the Near Death Experience:
: google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=t&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4ADBF_enUS245US245&q=Near+Death+Experiences+Religion
 
Mannyfit75 said:
Is the Protestant Reformation still continuing today or has it ended after the death of the Last Protestant Reformer?

I believe it is still continuing because Protestant Churches are still spliting and forming new churches based on the doctrine of Sola Scriptura.
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Yes, it still continues…

As it is the Protestant Reformation is continuously reforming from it self, now a days this goes to show how wrong the First Protestant Reformation was.

Ufamtobie
 
Protestants are constantly reforming themselves. Any bum that can read the Bible can become a Protestant minister, and thus, having no organisation, they splinter off into smaller cults. Luckily all the major sects are having a crisis now, and many are converting to Catholicism.
 
It is called freedom of religion. In truth, anyone can invent a religion, join an existing one, etc. I imagine a few of them may be bums. It usually has start up costs though.
 
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I am Catholic. I do not believe in freedom of religion.
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Rex,

I’m curious. Does the latter statement in the box above reflect official Catholic Church teaching or is it your own private interpretation?

Cordially,
Mick
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Rex_Tremendae said:
Protestants are constantly reforming themselves. Any bum that can read the Bible can become a Protestant minister, and thus, having no organisation, they splinter off into smaller cults. Luckily all the major sects are having a crisis now, and many are converting to Catholicism.
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A pastor of mine once said about American “evangelicals”, “all one needs is a Bible and an experience to proclaim he is a minister.”
That is not true, however, of most of the original reformation churches whose pastors must attend schooling not unlike Catholic priests in order to be ordained. Lutherans are fairly picky, at least the LCMS.

While some may be converting to Catholicism, the reverse is also true, and still some others are looking east.
Jon
 
JonNC said:
A pastor of mine once said about American “evangelicals”, “all one needs is a Bible and an experience to proclaim he is a minister.”
That is not true, however, of most of the original reformation churches whose pastors must attend schooling not unlike Catholic priests in order to be ordained. Lutherans are fairly picky, at least the LCMS.

Jon
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Jon,

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t Joel Osteen without any formal training? If so, doesn’t his hugely successful oratory support your pastor’s declaration and add weight to the point being adduced here?

Peace,
Mick
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