Is the use of condoms always wrong?

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I’m not questioning the sinful nature of contraception - that is an absolute moral wrong based on the sin of Onan and Natural Moral Law confirmed by Christian Tradition.

But what about when condoms are used solely for the purpose of preventing STDs? I mean a married couple should express there love and if they are likely to catch an STD then why should the use of condoms be wrong, as long as it does not involve a contraceptive mentality?

I would say the couple should have at least one or ordinarily about 3 children but if they have had these children but are still at risk of STDs then is a condom really wrong?

I probably have phrased the question poorly but what do you think?
 
It’s always wrong because we must always be open to the gift of life. Sex is for procreation within a married couple ONLY, and absolutely anything else is a sin.
 
St_Gregory said:
But what about when condoms are used solely for the purpose of preventing STDs? I mean a married couple should express there love and if they are likely to catch an STD then why should the use of condoms be wrong, as long as it does not involve a contraceptive mentality?
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Yes, condom use is **always **wrong-- even in the circumstances you describe.

The couple should abstain in such a circumstance.
 
There is only one approved use for a condom and that is for medical testing purposes by a married man. That’s it.
 
Seatuck said:
There is only one approved use for a condom and that is for medical testing purposes by a married man. That’s it.
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That’s correct but even those condoms are performated leaving the act open to life.
 
Starwynd said:
It’s always wrong because we must always be open to the gift of life. Sex is for procreation within a married couple ONLY, and absolutely anything else is a sin.
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No, sex must be open to procreation within a married couple only. Big difference.
 
Oh, I dunno… you could use them for water balloons…

I think that if a couple is irrevocably infertile [post menopase, hysterectomy] and there is some medical reason not to exchange bodily fluids [STD, etc], then I think the Church would allow the use of a condom.
 
Sam_Maloney said:
Oh, I dunno… you could use them for water balloons…

I think that if a couple is irrevocably infertile [post menopase, hysterectomy] and there is some medical reason not to exchange bodily fluids [STD, etc], then I think the Church would allow the use of a condom.
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If there is a medical reason not to exchange bodily fluids it is not permissible to use condoms. You are to abstain.
 
Sam_Maloney said:
Oh, I dunno… you could use them for water balloons…

I think that if a couple is irrevocably infertile [post menopase, hysterectomy] and there is some medical reason not to exchange bodily fluids [STD, etc], then I think the Church would allow the use of a condom.
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Nope the church has not allowed that. The idea being that condomistic sex violates the unitive property of the marital act as well as the procreative property. The man cannot gift his wife with his gift and they cannot form the one flesh union with a barrier.
 
Yes. The use of unnatural contraceptives is always wrong.

Sometimes it’s more evil than aborting the child that would have been concieved.
 
St_Gregory said:
But what about when condoms are used solely for the purpose of preventing STDs? I mean a married couple should express there love and if they are likely to catch an STD then why should the use of condoms be wrong, as long as it does not involve a contraceptive mentality?
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There are lots of ways to show love. If my husband had an STD, I hope he would love me enough not to put me at risk at all.

Using a condom would be like saying he loved me enough to reduce the risk, but not enough to eliminate it completely.

Which is the greater love?
 
If you are having sex outside of marriage, then I would recommend using a condom to prevent an out of wedlock pregnancy.
 
larsegarots said:
If you are having sex outside of marriage, then I would recommend using a condom to prevent an out of wedlock pregnancy.
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Frankly that’s a ridiculous attitude.
The answer is STOP having sex outside marriage.
People should not be instructed in how to have “safe” sex (which actually really does not exist). They should be brought up and educated not to have sex until they are married.
 
Try asking Father Serpa here at CAF. I’m sure he can explain the facts of life to you.

Peace,

Gail
 
thistle said:
Frankly that’s a ridiculous attitude.
The answer is STOP having sex outside marriage.
People should not be instructed in how to have “safe” sex (which actually really does not exist). They should be brought up and educated not to have sex until they are married.
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I agree there are less problems if people wait for marriage. But frankly, that’s a ridiculous attitude to think that everybody will wait. In the real world, most people will not wait. I’m not saying its right, but if they are having sex outside of marriage, those people should definitely use a condom.
 
larsegarots said:
I agree there are less problems if people wait for marriage. But frankly, that’s a ridiculous attitude to think that everybody will wait. In the real world, most people will not wait. I’m not saying its right, but if they are having sex outside of marriage, those people should definitely use a condom.
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That’s the equivalent of saying, “I agree there are less problems if people don’t take drugs. But frankly, that’s a ridiculous attitude to think everybody will stay clean. In the real world, most people will not stay clean. I’m not saying it’s right, but if they are taking drugs, those people should definitely use a clean needle.”

Yeah, that’s a bit of a ridiculous stance to take.
 
buckr02 said:
That’s the equivalent of saying, “I agree there are less problems if people don’t take drugs. But frankly, that’s a ridiculous attitude to think everybody will stay clean. In the real world, most people will not stay clean. I’m not saying it’s right, but if they are taking drugs, those people should definitely use a clean needle.”

Yeah, that’s a bit of a ridiculous stance to take.
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Ok, so what do you suggest? Pretend that people won’t have sex? That’s okay, as long as you don’t care that our country will continue to have the highest teenage pregnancy rate than any other developed nation…
smh.com.au/news/opinion/correlation-of-christian-ethics-social-ills-knocks-advocates-fromknees-to-backside/2005/10/03/1128191653994.html

Futhermore, the teenage pregnancy rate decreased significantly in the 1990s, 75% due to the effective use of contraceptives.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teenage_pregnancy

What you’re essentially saying, is that if people don’t adhere to your black and white view, then they might as well have maximum problems. My view is to create a situation where we have minimum problems.
 
larsegarots said:
What you’re essentially saying, is that if people don’t adhere to your black and white view, then they might as well have maximum problems. My view is to create a situation where we have minimum problems.
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Your view is one of, “people will do what they want, so let’s provide them a safe way to shoot themselves in the foot.”

My view is one of effectively teaching abstinence until marriage and rebuilding the family.
 
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