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gurrato_alaien
Guest
Is the word Allah in the Christians bible?
Your comments please
Peace.
Your comments please
Peace.
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DeExupery
Guest
Dear Brother Guratto,
I speak as an Indonesian, well, our Bible used the term Allah as the translation of God.
I heard that Arabic Bible use the term Allah too. So we need confirmation from others.
Fox
I speak as an Indonesian, well, our Bible used the term Allah as the translation of God.
I heard that Arabic Bible use the term Allah too. So we need confirmation from others.
Fox
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gurrato_alaien
Guest
Thank you brother,
You means Indonesian translation of God is Allah?
Peace
You means Indonesian translation of God is Allah?
Peace
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DeExupery
Guest
Dear Guratto,
Yes. You’re welcome.
(sometimes the term can also “Tuhan”)
Fox
Yes. You’re welcome.
(sometimes the term can also “Tuhan”)Fox
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gurrato_alaien
Guest
So why do you think that translation for God Is Allah
is’t indicate to something?
and what about other translation why word Allah in their Bible?
Peace
is’t indicate to something?
and what about other translation why word Allah in their Bible?
Peace
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DeExupery
Guest
Dear Guratto,
I cannot speak for other language, so I stick to Indonesian. We used the term Allah because we “absorbed” the term from Arabic. (Arabs came to Indonesian before the westerners, doing trade with the Hindus and Buddhists). It’s simply a language process. A Language borrows terms from other languages and vice verse.
It can also be seen in the case of other terms, for example.
Gereja = Igreya (Portuguese).
I hope it helps.
Fox
I cannot speak for other language, so I stick to Indonesian. We used the term Allah because we “absorbed” the term from Arabic. (Arabs came to Indonesian before the westerners, doing trade with the Hindus and Buddhists). It’s simply a language process. A Language borrows terms from other languages and vice verse.
It can also be seen in the case of other terms, for example.
Gereja = Igreya (Portuguese).
I hope it helps.
Fox
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gurrato_alaien
Guest
Thank u brother, what interest me is that christians don’t like Muslims to use this word Allah and they consider Allah is the God of Muslims only, despite the arab Christians also use word Allah.
Peace
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Eireann
Guest
gurrato alaien:
I searched here for Allah, couldn’t find it.> scborromeo.org/ccc.htm
And here > drbo.org/
If you find it in a Catholic Bible please let me know.
Read if you so desire > newadvent.org/cathen/01316a.htm
Well it doesn’t concern me as it’s a Protestant Bible. historicist.com/hw.htm
I searched here for Allah, couldn’t find it.> scborromeo.org/ccc.htm
And here > drbo.org/
If you find it in a Catholic Bible please let me know.
Read if you so desire > newadvent.org/cathen/01316a.htm
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Karin
Guest
What does it matter what word people choose to use…God, Allah,Yaweh etc. They all mean the same thing!
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Shibboleth
Guest
The Hebrew word for God excluding the definite article is Theos. Theta, Epsilon, Omega, Sigma. I am not sure but I would guess that Muslims do not consider Allah to be the God of Abraham’s proper name. I would be interested if they also consider the tetragramaton to be the closest thing we have to the Father’s proper name.
There is nothing wrong with calling o Theos Allah anymore than calling him God. I do think that we have gotten lazy in depicting in our translation exactly when we are talking about the Father vs. the whole trinity. There is a difference between saying, “The word was God” and “The word was the God” and “The word was a God.”
There is nothing wrong with calling o Theos Allah anymore than calling him God. I do think that we have gotten lazy in depicting in our translation exactly when we are talking about the Father vs. the whole trinity. There is a difference between saying, “The word was God” and “The word was the God” and “The word was a God.”
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silverwings_88
Guest
Umm…
Theos is Greek…
YHWH is the Hebrew tetragrammaton…
And yes, Arab Christians use Allah. I don’t know where this is going though…
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Shibboleth
Guest
yah sorry… I was writing quickly - that is why I noted the tetragramaton though… I was more pointing out that the translation God isn’t any different than Allah.
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Malleus
Guest
I speak arabic, having been born in the Middle East.
Christians DO USE the word ALLAH to mean God. Of course, they mean the Holy Trinity. I, sometimes, do not wish to say Allah. So I say AL ILLAH which means THE God. It seems that Allah is a CONTRACTION of Al Illah.
BTW MOST christians in the Middle East DO NOT consider themselves ARABS. This is because, Egyptians, Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis, Libyans, Jordainians… EXISTED BEFORE the ARAB invasions. This stance is ESPECIALLY true of Egyptian and Lebanese christians.
Christians DO USE the word ALLAH to mean God. Of course, they mean the Holy Trinity. I, sometimes, do not wish to say Allah. So I say AL ILLAH which means THE God. It seems that Allah is a CONTRACTION of Al Illah.
BTW MOST christians in the Middle East DO NOT consider themselves ARABS. This is because, Egyptians, Lebanese, Syrians, Iraqis, Libyans, Jordainians… EXISTED BEFORE the ARAB invasions. This stance is ESPECIALLY true of Egyptian and Lebanese christians.
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Shibboleth
Guest
“and the Word was the God” = Sabellianism
“and the Word was a God” = Arianism
“and the Word was God” = Orthodox
“and the Word was a God” = Arianism
“and the Word was God” = Orthodox
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Malleus
Guest
Shibboleth said:
So you are saying that Jesus Christ is NOT THE ONE TRUE GOD???
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Shibboleth
Guest
Quite the contrary….
The definite article ‘the’ implies’ a proper name. Whenever, “the God” appears in the NT it means The Father. Jesus is God, the Father is The God. The Greek reads on the verse, “and the Word was God” if it would have read, “and the Word was The God” it would have meant that The Father would have came to Earth as man and that is heterodox.
The definite article ‘the’ implies’ a proper name. Whenever, “the God” appears in the NT it means The Father. Jesus is God, the Father is The God. The Greek reads on the verse, “and the Word was God” if it would have read, “and the Word was The God” it would have meant that The Father would have came to Earth as man and that is heterodox.
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gurrato_alaien
Guest
In Arabic bible word Allah is there. Even in the true Aramaic the language Jesus spoke the word for GOD is Allah. And he refers not to trinity But the One true God “Islamic Monotheism”
We can see in the following verses :
“Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”
[Mark 10:18] & [Luke 18:19]
Jesus says, “The Father is greater than I.”
[John 14:28]
“Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”
[Matthew 7:21]
Then Jesus said, "…I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me,
I speak these things.
[John 8:28]
“For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will,
but the will of him that sent me.”
[John 6:38]
“I ascend to My Father and to your Father, My God and to your God.”
[John 20:17]
We can see in the following verses :
“Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.”
[Mark 10:18] & [Luke 18:19]
Jesus says, “The Father is greater than I.”
[John 14:28]
“Not every one who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven,
but he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.”
[Matthew 7:21]
Then Jesus said, "…I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me,
I speak these things.
[John 8:28]
“For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will,
but the will of him that sent me.”
[John 6:38]
“I ascend to My Father and to your Father, My God and to your God.”
[John 20:17]
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Malleus
Guest
Mohamed MADE UP his religion from Arabian Paganism (his “father” was called Abd Allah), Jewish rabbis and christian heretics roaming Arabia at that time.
Mohamed is a False prophet and enemy of the TRUE GOD.
ISLAM is DESTROYED by Fr. Zacharia Bourtos. He is a Coptic Orthodox priest from Egypt. He demolishes Islam through the Koran itself, authoritative Islamic commentators, The Hadiths, and the writings of the contemporaries of Mohamed (the devil’s prophet).
islam-christianity.net/
hewaralhaq.com/
Mohamed is a False prophet and enemy of the TRUE GOD.
ISLAM is DESTROYED by Fr. Zacharia Bourtos. He is a Coptic Orthodox priest from Egypt. He demolishes Islam through the Koran itself, authoritative Islamic commentators, The Hadiths, and the writings of the contemporaries of Mohamed (the devil’s prophet).
islam-christianity.net/
hewaralhaq.com/
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Malleus
Guest
Mohamed - Khara Allah alih wa shakh
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DeExupery
Guest
Dear Guratto,
If Veda is translated to Arabic, I am sure they have their own conception of God, although using the same term.
That’s my understanding. I hope it helps.
Fox
Sadly, I guess you are mistaken. The term might be the same (Allah) but the conception is different. And that’s what matters.
If Veda is translated to Arabic, I am sure they have their own conception of God, although using the same term.
But He didn’t say “I am not God”. If you see closely, he mentioned that God is good. People see Jesus as good. And please make your own mind.
In the theme of salvation, Jesus should became a human. And of course God is greater than human. That’s my understanding.
What is the will of Father? Jesus is the Word of God, everything that the Father wanted, Jesus had explained to us. He wants us to follow the path of LOVE, and follow HIS WAY.
Jesus is the Word of God (Kalimatullah) and the Spirit of God (Rohullah), taking a form of human to save the world, because GOD SO LOVE THE WORLD. (and remember, God is good).
Jesus should leave this world to reunite with God (the father), because He is God and He is the Word and Spirit of God.
That’s my understanding. I hope it helps.
Fox
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