Is the word Allah in the Christians bible?

[melbourne_guy]

r.gonzales:

craig winn has been exposed as being totally ignorant with respect to islam and its teachings. his book is a farce and not worth the paper its printed on.

you can have a listen to the “debate” (if you can even call it that) between him and jalal abualrub here: islamlife.com/?p=21

i heard his debate, and your right i wouldnt call it a debate. Its so laughable that muslims are claiming this as a win, nothing about craig was discredited and he didnt even have enough time to finish. This is his response to jalal
prophetofdoom.net/debate_jalal.html

 

[r.gonzales]

melbourne_guy:

i heard his debate, and your right i wouldnt call it a debate. Its so laughable that muslims are claiming this as a win, nothing about craig was discredited and he didnt even have enough time to finish. This is his response to jalal
prophetofdoom.net/debate_jalal.html

perhaps you should check the dates of those emails posted on winn’s site and compare them to the dates found on jalal’s :ehh:.

those replies by winn you posted are over a year old, whereas the “debate” that took place on gallegher’s show took place only a few months ago.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

gurrato alaien:

Thank u brother, what interest me is that christians don’t like Muslims to use this word Allah and they consider Allah is the God of Muslims only, despite the arab Christians also use word Allah.
Peace

All that Allah is linguistically, is the two Arabic words AL-ILAH (= the God; compare AL-ILAT, “the Goddess”: not forgetting their daughters Al-Manat & Al-Uzza) in the later syncopated form “AL-LAH”: that is,“Allah”. Which also serves as the personal name of the Supreme Being in Arabic.​

“Allah” doesn’t appear in Bibles unless they are in Arabic - and when it does, it is used for purely linguistic reasons; not because there is a theological intention to refer to the Supreme Being as worshipped by Islam; but simply because the lexical unit “Allah” is the linguistic equivalent in Arabic of “Dieu” in French or “Dio” in Italian, (for instance), or (even more accurately) of “Ho Theos” in in the Greek NT.

So, when the “Allah” appears in a Christian Bible or a Missal, the word does not have the function of ascribing to the God of Christians the attributes of God as believed in by Muslims: because Arabic-speaking Catholics believe in the Blessed Trinity (for example), even though Muslims do not. IOW, the word “Allah” as an Arabic word used by Christians to name the God in Whom they believe, has a different denotation from that which it has when used in (say) the Koran.

It sounds pretty much as though Allah began as a conventional Semitic “high god”, with a consort and offspring. ##

 

[discipleofJesus]

gurrato alaien:

Is the word Allah in the Christians bible?

jamaat.net

Your comments please

Peace.

Ahmed Deedat has a copy of the image of that you have attached claiming that the word ‘Allah’ in Arabic is in the Bible, I think it’s in his book ‘Is the Bible God’s Word?’. So I assume the your image that you attached is from this book by Ahmed Deedat (or one of his other books).

Anyway, John Gilchrist has written a rebuttal to this book titled ‘The Textual History of the Qur’an and the Bible’ answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/texthistory.html
Gilchrist’s book has a section refuting what you claim. I would have provided commentary on the quote but I think the quote sufficiently refutes your claim. The following quote is from that section answering-islam.org/Gilchrist/texthistory.html#six [bold and underline emphasis mine]

1. “**ALLAH” IN THE BIBLE?

On page 22 of his booklet ‘Is the Bible God’s Word?’ Deedat reproduces a pamphlet allegedly** showing that the Arabic word for God, Allah, is found in the Scofield translation of the Bible. Fortunately the evidence, in this case, is set before us to consider. A copy of a page from a Scofield Bible is reproduced and in a footnote we find that the Hebrew word for God, Elohim, is derived from two words, El (strength) and Alah (to swear). This last word is supposed to be proof that the Arabic word Allah is found in the Bible!

A more far-fetched and fanciful effort to prove a point can hardly be imagined. **The word in Hebrew ** is alah, a common word meaning “to swear”. How this is supposed to be proof that the word Allah in Arabic, meaning God, is found in the Bible is altogether unclear to us. Deedat’s effort to twist the facts further in suggesting that Elah in Hebrew (meaning God) has been spelt by the editors of the Scofield translation alternatively as Alah (Deedat, Is the Bible God’s Word?, p. 21) taxes our credulity to an unbearable extreme. These editors clearly identify the latter word as another one entirely meaning “to swear”.

For more on this topic, see the rest of the section in this book by Gilchrist (linked above).

If anyone has any questions they want to ask me regarding what I have just quoted or what I have said on this post, please ask me.

 

[discipleofJesus]

melbourne_guy:

i heard his debate, and your right i wouldnt call it a debate. Its so laughable that muslims are claiming this as a win, nothing about craig was discredited and he didnt even have enough time to finish. This is his response to jalal
prophetofdoom.net/debate_jalal.html

I listened to the ‘debate’ too, and I agree, i wouldn’t call it a proper debate. I don’t think Jalal defeated Craig here. Nothing (at least nothing of significance) in Craig’s book was discredited. Did you notice when Craig basically agreed with Jalal that the word Islam means submission, Jalal lashed out and said that Craig didn’t know what he was talking about? (what does that say about Jalal Abualrub?)

Sam Shamoun has written a response to Jalal’s challenge to Craig (the challenge that he posed on Craig during this ‘debate’) titled
“Do the Authentic Teachings of Islam Result in Terrorism?
Examining one Muslim’s Challenge”
If you are interested, you can read it here answering-islam.org/Responses/Abualrub/terrorism1.htm

If you want to read more on Jalal Abdualrub, see
‘The Appearance of a Scholar’ (examines Abualrub’s methodology)
answering-islam.org/Responses/Abualrub/twoadams_jk.htm

here is a response to Jalal’s challenge to Sam Shamoun to debate
answering-islam.org/Shamoun/abualrub.htm

Can a Muslim explain the following Ahadith for us

Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0033:
“It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. 'Umar that the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer, and pay Zakat and if they do it, their blood and property are guaranteed protection on my behalf except when justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah.”

Is this not a clear command to fight non-Muslims until they convert to Islam?

Sahih Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, Number 80:
Narrated Abu Huraira:
“The Verse:–“You (true Muslims) are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind.” means, the best of peoples for the people, as you bring them with chains on their necks till they embrace Islam.”

The verse it is referring to is Sura 3:110 in the Quran

Does this not imply that Muslims are commanded to force non-Muslims to convert to Islam?

 

[inJESUS]

Malleus:

Mohamed MADE UP his religion from Arabian Paganism (his “father” was called Abd Allah), Jewish rabbis and christian heretics roaming Arabia at that time.

Mohamed is a False prophet and enemy of the TRUE GOD.

ISLAM is DESTROYED by Fr. Zacharia Bourtos. He is a Coptic Orthodox priest from Egypt. He demolishes Islam through the Koran itself, authoritative Islamic commentators, The Hadiths, and the writings of the contemporaries of Mohamed (the devil’s prophet).

islam-christianity.net/
hewaralhaq.com/

Hey Malleus since you are from the middleeast and know arabic, then try to get the book : quran, daawa nasrania…its a great book…it clearly shows you who mohammad was and who are the “nasara” and where he stole his info from. a must read.