Is the world overpopulated?

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So what do you think? Is the world overpopulated? Can humanity survive at the rate we are going? What are the current trends. Please give me your thoughts and also see an article I wrote that my national newspaper published which can be found on www.godfact.com - it is comments on an article written by the founder of the Human Extinction Movement.

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Brendan Roberts
www.godfact.com
 
Actually, we’re not reproducing at a rate to sustain our current population 😛 …interesting is it not? Also, if we do not realize the gift of life then the world would be a very depressing place.

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There was a Peanuts cartoon in which Sally Brown commented: “*Everyone thinks that the world is overcrowded, but no one wants to leave.” :rolleyes: *
 
No, it cannot be over populated.

That would imply that there are people on this planet that God did not wish to create, or that God did not plan for from the beginning of time.

To hold either of those positions would be contrary to Church teaching and to an understanding of a benevolent, omnipotent God.

While God permits sin, the creation of a new person involves the ACTIVE desire of God to create a new soul. God must be an active particpant in the process. A new person is never a case of God just allowing it to happen. He must choose to do so. A benevolent, omnipotent God could never choose to do ill for His people.

Therefore there could be no more people on this planet than God desires there to be.

In fact, due to abortion, there are millions less than God desires there to be, mostly because we killed them.
 
a few months ago, I took the world population number, gave each person a two foot by two foot space to stand. I found that everyone at that time would easily fit in RI.

The problem is not how many people there is. It is the logistics of feeding, clothing and caring for everyone.
 
Daniel Marsh:
a few months ago, I took the world population number, gave each person a two foot by two foot space to stand. I found that everyone at that time would easily fit in RI.

The problem is not how many people there is. It is the logistics of feeding, clothing and caring for everyone.
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Yep, and if used the same population density as Manhattan, the entire world’s population could live in an area the size of Nebraska.
 
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Brendan:
Yep, and if used the same population density as Manhattan, the entire world’s population could live in an area the size of Nebraska.
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You guys are clever! How did you do that, if you don’t mind me asking?

The world can never be over-populated; God made the world big enough for everyone, the problem is too many people have too little and too few people have too much.
 
Some things to consider.
Alright, some say that the world population doubles every 37 years (these are the overpopulationists who use this figure as an excuse for abortion, but let’s use their figure anyway). So in 111 years (ie, year 2117) we will have 50 billion people maximum.
  1. Could we fit and feed 50 billion people the way we live today? (Are we even using 1/8 of the Earth to produce food and clothing? Don’t think so. Hence I reckon, yes, even the way we live today we can fit everyone)
  2. The Earth isn’t just a 2D map. We have skyscrapers that go up 100 stories. Also, in one Isaac Asmiov’s novels, he talks about a planet which uses the depth of the planet, digging up to 50 levels below the surface. Could we possibly grow crops in layers of the crust? We only need 8 levels at most for this year 2117…
  3. Is the universe overpopulated? Could we possibly use other planets? Consider the advancements in science. 111 years ago we were still using Newtonian physics and riding on horses. Now people can travel to the other side of the Earth in under half a day, and I mean commercially. How far will we get in the next 111 years?
 
once i drove thru Nevada and it was empty. people need to settle and build stuff there. the problem is everyone wants to live in the same place. but in Genesis didn’t God say He wants everyone to spread throughout the world in the tower of babel story
 
Many western european countries are facing the prospect of having too-small growth rates. The working population in several countries wont be large enough to pay for the pensions of the increasing retired population in a few decades, they say.
Which explains governments increasing the retirement age, encouraging workers from easterm europe, and attempting to draw more women into the workplace - even though what they may earn would only just cover the childcare costs to keep them in work.
Seems too, that the new CAP reform will discourage farming - paying farmers to keep land idle. Which sounds like a crime in its-self considering how we are so often told that the world is now a global market - but if they can’t return a profit on food production they would rather bury the food than give it to their global neighbours in need.
I think I might move to Greenland, or someplace where I can’t hear about overpopulation and stuff. :rolleyes:
 
A few years ago, someone did the math and figured that with only a moderate urban density, the world’s population could be squeezed into a space the size of Texas.

If you’ve flown over the United States, you may have noticed that you can fly for hours over parts of the western states and not see any cities. It’s pretty sparse out there.

Right now, food is a surplus commodity in most countries. The only places where there are food shortages are those where the government is either actively discouraging production (with price controls) or actively persecuting one minority or other.

Water is wasted in many areas. We treat sewerage and then dump it into the ocean, whereas regeneration of acquifers is something easily accommodated. It would be pretty simple to build more water works (dams); but dams are currently politically incorrect and are being demolished.

Energy is similarly being restricted by political incorrectness. France gets 80% of its electricity from nuclear energy (using American reactor designs); the U.S. gets only 20%. There are prohibitions against drilling oil and gas wells and building refineries because local residents want the gas and oil but don’t want the facilities to produce the stuff. The NIMBY attitude.

So, no, the world isn’t over-populated. There are plenty of resources to accommodate many more people.
 
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blessedstar:
You guys are clever! How did you do that, if you don’t mind me asking?.
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Just a little bit of ‘Googleing’ and a calculator

anythingarkansas.com/arkansas/facts.html

From an Arkansas Fact site

Arkansas has 52,075 squared land miles

There are 27,878,400 sq feet per square mile (5280)²

that equals 1,451,767,680,000 square feet in Arkansas.

Assuming 6 Billion people on the earth, If every person on Earth were to go to Arkansas, each person would get 242 square feet (or about 15’x15’ ).

Now based off of the US Census website figures for Manhattan it has a population of 1,537,195 in 31.2 square miles or 49,269 people per square mile.

If people were willing to live in the population density of Manhattan, all 6,000,0000 people could live in an area of 121,780 square miles.

Or an area about 1 and 1/2 times the state of Nebraska with not a single person anywhere else on the planet.
 
Overpopulation is a myth. The same people who are screaming about “global warming!” at the moment are the same people who were screaming “overpopulation!” 35 years ago.

It’s all baloney. In fact, if they totally stopped immigration into Western Europe today, and shipped all the current immigrants home, in 75 years you could go to Europe and take however much land you wanted----because the whole continent will be devoid of human life.
 
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Brendan:
Just a little bit of ‘Googleing’ and a calculator

anythingarkansas.com/arkansas/facts.html

From an Arkansas Fact site

Arkansas has 52,075 squared land miles

There are 27,878,400 sq feet per square mile (5280)²

that equals 1,451,767,680,000 square feet in Arkansas.

Assuming 6 Billion people on the earth, If every person on Earth were to go to Arkansas, each person would get 242 square feet (or about 15’x15’ ).

Now based off of the US Census website figures for Manhattan it has a population of 1,537,195 in 31.2 square miles or 49,269 people per square mile.

If people were willing to live in the population density of Manhattan, all 6,000,0000 people could live in an area of 121,780 square miles.

Or an area about 1 and 1/2 times the state of Nebraska with not a single person anywhere else on the planet.
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Hi Brendan

Very impressive! Thank you for explaining that to me…I am now off to play 😃
 
Anyone who thinks the world is overpopulated should go to Wyoming. 😉

No, the world isn’t overpopulated. We’re killing so many of our children that our race is probably decreasing. 😦
 
Or, ride across Kansas on I-70. Anywhere there are three houses and a grain elevator, they name it and call it a town. Or, was that three grain elevators and a house…?
 
Has anyone heard that the population of China is expected to peak before 2030. That’s what happens when you force your population to have one child per family.

china-embassy.org/eng/gyzg/t228473.htm

The world population is expected to peak by the year 2070

newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn1108

Also see my article which refutes Les Knight, Founder of the Human Extinction Movement who claimed only 1-2 million people could live happily on earth. My article also covers food production - comparisons with 55 years ago, population density stats, population stats and decline in the west and more.

godfact.com/popart.pdf

Look forward to reading more of your comments on this thread.

God bless

Brendan Roberts
www.godfact.com
 
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geezerbob:
Or, ride across Kansas on I-70. Anywhere there are three houses and a grain elevator, they name it and call it a town. Or, was that three grain elevators and a house…?
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Or come to Australia. 6 people per square kilometre, average. The Australian desert is so empty that some terrorist group once tested (detonated) a nuclear bomb there and no-one ever heard about it until 4 years later.

Come on, who can beat me for low population density? (Hope there isn’t anyone from Antarctica on these forums…)
 
It will be very interesting times over the next 10 to 20 years (maybe only the next 5 years). Some countries that are over populated, India and China specifically will be having huge demographic shifts and population movements. Many are moving to less densely populated areas such as the US (and perhaps Australia) and Europe

Both have huge developing middle classes. Although the annual pay is still very low by western standards, it is a huge increase for them. It is estimated that the middle class in India is around 300 million, still only 30% of the population, but a huge increase over prior decades.

Industrialization in both of these countries will cause economic opportunities and distortions in the world economy. There will be 2 Billion new or relatively new consumers (and producers) on the world scene. The demand (and the supply) of goods and services will be increased many fold. What this will do to prices, investments, property values will be huge.

China is trying to shift from coal for most of its energy to oil and nuclear and hydro electric. We may anticipate huge demand with accompanied inflation, and perhaps huge shortages or swings in supplies. China and India are graduating 10 to 100 times the numbers of engineers and scientists that the US and the west. What this will do to the job market may be devastating.

Already, when we have openings I see many Indian and Chinese computer candidates with masters and PhD’s, while competing US citizens mostly have bachelors or no degree at all. It is not just a question of out sourcing. The folks who apply are immigrating to the US with advanced degrees. Our kids will have to keep up with advanced degrees just to be competitive.

While it is long overdue that India and China get out of the middle ages, their emergence will have a big impact on just about everything. The world economy has long been dominated by the US, but over the next couple of decades we will probably see a shift as China and India, will both become the biggest consumer (and perhaps suppliers) of goods and services.

With potentially 2 billion consumers, these two countries will have 5 times our demand and supply possibilities. They can not help but become the dominating force of the world markets.

Whether or not we keep pace (and how) is the big question.
 
Everyone in the world could have a 2200 sq ft home in Texas with a family of four.
 
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