Is there a difference between being a humanitarian versus a religious 'liberal?'

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Sounds more conservative than humanitarian. Be honest, would you consider yourself to be more conservative and less humanitarian?
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A strong economy here and elsewhere is what *you *are ultimately advocating, is it not? Can we possibly expand business in a *weak *economy? Can we raise the money to educate billions of people in a *weak *economy?
 
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A strong economy here and elsewhere is what *you *are ultimately advocating, is it not? Can we possibly expand business in a *weak *economy? Can we raise the money to educate billions of people in a *weak *economy?
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Yes, we would probably need a strong economy. We would only need to educate children, which would probably amount to a billion or so.
 
Robert_Sock said:
Yes, definitely, you can be conservative and humanitarian. But that was not the question I asked Elizabeth.
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I’m not sure what you mean by “conservative.” Do you mean do I have a particular party affiliation? (I don’t.) I guess perhaps better would be to describe me as a traditionalist, in that I support institutions like traditional marriage and a traditional approach to education and a traditional Catholicism.

In terms of Catholic social justice, I consider myself radically humanitarian, in that I favor the radical overhaul of institutions and systems which once furthered social justice and which now impair it too often. I favor such an overhaul as being more in line with both the letter and spirit of Catholic social teaching, without compromising the moral doctrines of the Church.
 
The five egg-laying chickens I bought for a family in Pakistan. I just could not sit back and allow these children to go hungry!
 
There is an unfortunate and misleading attention to political terminology evident, which tends to designate everything in a accord with personal prejudice rather than Catholic teaching.

As the eminent and revered Fr James Schall, S.J., points out this is how poverty in the world is alleviated:
“Since the Church wants poverty confronted, since She wants this confrontation to be done justly and with the interest and cooperation of the workers and the poor, She has had to acknowledge, as did the socialist systems themselves, that there are certain ways that must be employed if mankind is to meet its economic problems. These ways can be known and imitated, but they must include a juridical system, profit, enterprise, knowledge, exchange, a market, voluntary organisations, a relatively independent economy, private property, and respect for work and excellence.” (Fr James V Schall, S.J., in *Does Catholicism Still Exist?, *Alba House 1994, p 184-185).
 
Abu said:
There is an unfortunate and misleading attention to political terminology evident, which tends to designate everything in a accord with personal prejudice rather than Catholic teaching.

As the eminent and revered Fr James Schall, S.J., points out this is how poverty in the world is alleviated:
“Since the Church wants poverty confronted, since She wants this confrontation to be done justly and with the interest and cooperation of the workers and the poor, She has had to acknowledge, as did the socialist systems themselves, that there are certain ways that must be employed if mankind is to meet its economic problems. These ways can be known and imitated, but they must include a juridical system, profit, enterprise, knowledge, exchange, a market, voluntary organisations, a relatively independent economy, private property, and respect for work and excellence.” (Fr James V Schall, S.J., in *Does Catholicism Still Exist?, *Alba House 1994, p 184-185).
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And Fr James Schall, S.J., somehow represents official Church teachings?
 
On Robert Sock #69, 74:
The unfortunately bamboozled Robert Sock has no time for the eminent and revered Fr James V Schall, S.J., when he reiterates what the Church teaches as: “Since the Church wants poverty confronted, since She wants this confrontation to be done justly and with the interest and cooperation of the workers and the poor, She has had to acknowledge, as did the socialist systems themselves, that there are certain ways that must be employed if mankind is to meet its economic problems. These ways can be known and imitated, but they must include a juridical system, profit, enterprise, knowledge, exchange, a market, voluntary organisations, a relatively independent economy, private property, and respect for work and excellence.” (Fr James V Schall, S.J., in *Does Catholicism Still Exist?, *Alba House 1994, p 184-185).

Continuing his questions to which answers from the Church are well-known to real Catholics, Sock asks “And Fr James Schall, S.J., somehow represents official Church teachings?”

Sock then exposes the reason he does not know much about Catholic teaching by answering “No, he is just a priest!”

The blatant inability displayed *ad nauseam *to know what is Catholic teaching, as well as the repeated inability to accept that teaching from those who know it and spend their lives enlightening others with that teaching, such as the renowned Fr Schall, S.J., exposes an attitude of real contempt for Catholicism whenever it suits.
 
Abu said:
On Robert Sock #69, 74:
The unfortunately bamboozled Robert Sock has no time for the eminent and revered Fr James V Schall, S.J., when he reiterates what the Church teaches as: “Since the Church wants poverty confronted, since She wants this confrontation to be done justly and with the interest and cooperation of the workers and the poor, She has had to acknowledge, as did the socialist systems themselves, that there are certain ways that must be employed if mankind is to meet its economic problems. These ways can be known and imitated, but they must include a juridical system, profit, enterprise, knowledge, exchange, a market, voluntary organisations, a relatively independent economy, private property, and respect for work and excellence.” (Fr James V Schall, S.J., in *Does Catholicism Still Exist?, *Alba House 1994, p 184-185).

Continuing his questions to which answers from the Church are well-known to real Catholics, Sock asks “And Fr James Schall, S.J., somehow represents official Church teachings?”

Sock then exposes the reason he does not know much about Catholic teaching by answering “No, he is just a priest!”

The blatant inability displayed *ad nauseam *to know what is Catholic teaching, as well as the repeated inability to accept that teaching from those who know it and spend their lives enlightening others with that teaching, such as the renowned Fr Schall, S.J., exposes an attitude of real contempt for Catholicism whenever it suits.
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So, does Fr James Schall, S.J., represent the official Church teaching on the matter. Yes or no!
 
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