Is there a list of all fulfilled prophecies in Jesus?

[Niblo]

No, we had to use books then because, while there was an internet, there was very little on it!

Not only that, of course, but I’d never have been in such discussions without message boards and email groups.

We had no internet…and our discussions were face to face…looking into the whites of each other’s eyes

 

[Kaninchen]

We had no internet…and our discussions were face to face…looking into the whites of each other’s eyes

At the time, I was a post-grad student and mother of two very young daughters who was looking for things to do some evenings while my husband was ‘careering’ around the world.

The internet was a safe way of wiling away the time.

 

[Truth2.0]

Blockquote Hey, go blind people with statistics, see how you get on.

There’s a difference between saying, “The odds of X are Y so statistically, the Bible has amazing accuracy over time.” and “Jesus is God because of statistics!” Please stop assuming I’m an extremist.

Blockquote I remember somebody here announcing that he was going to prove Jesus was God/Messiah etc, scientifically.
I’ll leave speculation about what happened up to you.

Knowing that we exist because of God, it follows that he failed because the problem is more misattribution of reality to God then that God doesn’t exist.

 

[Thom18]

The simplest thing I can say with certainty is that where there’s a messianic prophecy, Jesus has fulfilled it or will fulfill it.

 

[Truth2.0]

Here’s more of what I’m looking for: Odds of Christ Fulfilling Prophecy | Good News Dispatch
It gives some actual numbers but only for 8 prophecies.

 

[Truth2.0]

How they got the odds for each prophecy is sadly unclear.

 

[mdgspencer]

Jesus himself said that he fulfilled some of the Old Testament prophesies and identified them. That a good many passages in the Old Testament are fulfilled by Jesus also is a Catholic conviction. However, whether or not some passages in the Old Testament were fulfilled by Jesus or not is unsure. Do some passages in the Psalms foretell the fulfillment brought about by Christ or not? Some Catholic exegetes say they do, but others might disagree.
I expect that it can safely be said that hundreds of Old Testament passages foretell this fulfillment. Some are passages that Christ identified Himself, more are otherwise identified throughout the New Testament, while others are solidly identified by Christian tradition, including by passages in the liturgy. The Easter vigil for example identifies some of passages in the Old Testament fulfilled through Christ.
I don’t think you will find an article that identifies all the Old Testament passages fulfilled through Christ, though I expect there are some that identify many of them.
If the people you are speaking to are Christians, you could always tell them about places in the Gospels and otherwise in New Testament where they say Jesus fulfilled the Old Testament.

 

[Kaninchen]

There’s a difference between saying, “The odds of X are Y so statistically, the Bible has amazing accuracy over time.” and “Jesus is God because of statistics!” Please stop assuming I’m an extremist.

No, I don’t think you’re an extremist, it’s that a comparison between statements in the Tanakh (OT) and the NT would only work at all (even ignoring the actual nature of the particular portion of the texts in the former) with people who thought the NT to contain reportage of some sort. For those of us for whom it has no more of a relationship to reportage than a Jane Austen novel, any kind of statistical relationship is irrelevant.

 

[Neithan]

For those of us for whom it has no more of a relationship to reportage than a Jane Austen novel

Are you a believer in the Christ myth theory?

 

[Kaninchen]

Are you a believer in the Christ myth theory ?

I expect there was some kind of historical figure behind the tales but that’s about it.

 

[Neithan]

Is that similar to your view of the Torah and Tanakh (Prophets and Writings)? Some kind of historical figures behind otherwise tall tales?

 

[Kaninchen]

Is that similar to your view of the Torah and Tanakh (Prophets and Writings)? Some kind of historical figures behind otherwise tall tales?

The Tanakh is divided into Law (Torah), Neviʾim (Prophets) and Ketuvim (Writings).

I do have to ask why you think your question is relevant, are you taking into account the way Judaism ‘works’ as a religion?

 

[Niblo]

At the time, I was a post-grad student and mother of two very young daughters who was looking for things to do some evenings while my husband was ‘careering’ around the world.

The internet was a safe way of wiling away the time.

Shalom.

Please don’t get me wrong; I’m not an internet Luddite. It’s simply not my preferred medium for personal learning. Have been a bookworm for far too long!

Have a good day, and very best regards.

 

[Kaninchen]

Salaam

And a good evening to you.

 

[Niblo]

Thank you, sister (may I call you that, without offence?)

May HaShem keep you - and your husband and children - safe in these difficult times.

 

[Neithan]

The Tanakh is divided into Law (Torah), Neviʾim (Prophets) and Ketuvim (Writings).

I knew you were going to write that, lol. That’s why I put Prophets and Writings in parentheses.

I’m curious why or how you differentiate the texts and on what basis.

 

[Kaninchen]

Thank you, sister (may I call you that, without offence?)

Absolutely no problem at all.

 

[Kaninchen]

I’m curious why or how you differentiate the texts and on what basis.

They’re meant to be differentiated, sort of order of importance in interpreting Torah (cutting a long story short), a guide to how to live ethically, now.

So, since we don’t have to prove a man was God, we don’t need the same kind of relationship to the text that Christians have.

 

[Neithan]

So looking at historical claims in the texts, would you say they’re all loosely based on historical figures, but factually comparable to a Jane Austen novel?

 

[Kaninchen]

So looking at historical claims in the texts, would you say they’re all loosely based on historical figures, but factually comparable to a Jane Austen novel?

That would depend on which bits you were talking about and their context - some of it is certainly ‘edifying folk tales,’ for example. If you want to understand other religions, you have to come to terms with how they ‘work’, Judaism isn’t Christianity minus Jesus and Christianity isn’t Judaism plus Jesus.