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SnoopSword
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Hi!
It’s undeniable most religions accept Jesus as either Messiah, has come in the flesh, or venerate him as the greatest human with a special divine conmection to God. I was quite amazed to learn some Sikh’s believe their turbans, daggar, hair, outfits and colors were claimed to be Jesus authentic ‘uniform’. The Islamic symbol of the cresent moon and star being Mary and Jesus. Honestly I find this very flattering and more evidenc of Jesus divinity.
Unfortunately there is only one religion I know of that is solely based off denying Jesus as Messiah, openly and without ‘ignorance’, and furthermore, this denial of Christ is even the pride and joy of thier ‘identity’ as a ‘blessed people’ on the earth - so i’d ask to exclude this particular group from the question.
In my ongoing walk and through a lot of socializing, debating in chatrooms and in person I’ve learned a lot about American ‘Christianity’ and even some Islam (which the CCC places in the plan of salvation). However, many Muslims admit they will have their own area in heaven and will have manditory ‘purgatory’ beforehand.
I hope this doesnt sound odd, but through exhasutuve first hand experience based learning with modern American ‘Christians’, I have feel i have ‘picked the brain’ of this group as a whole. I’ve concluded not only are they not 'c’atholic or Catholic, they are FAR away from being Protestant. For instance Baptists are now growingly against baptism.
I’ve condluded that these ‘Christians’ are a sort of practicing Muslim. They both believe in an age of reason to baptise/circumsice a child based on the childs concent. Both do not have a valid baptism/ritual baths (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). Both do not believe in apostalistic succession or basic athority to ‘command God’. Both do not believe in ‘church headship’ ie: each church/mosque is independant in a Freemasonic lodge/brotherhood system.
Where I believe this ‘Christianity’ crosses the line from even Islam and places them as ‘heathen’, is deep ‘soul opposition’ to The Catholic Church and Mary at almost any level, with many covertly denying the Virgin Birth or Jesus being God by becoming divine at Johns baptism etc. Almost ALL believe that God exists to serve them rather than vice versa, thus placing themselves as athorities in commanders of God. Its almost as each one of them is a denomination of ‘Christinaity’ unto themselves and their ‘churches’ facilitate this self empowerment similar to worldly motivational speaking but now Jesus has become the self help tool which I believe is a first in history.
My question is, if these people claim to do works and signs in Jesus name, in all senserity, and are ‘good people’ who claim to have a ‘personal relationsip’ and are ‘Spirit filled’, but willingly deny all the rest of the things that are fundemental to Christianity, how are these people to be considered, and will they be in the same place in heaven as the faithful Catholic layity for instance? (Please keep in mind the deep rooted opposition to Mary and The Catholic Church they have. I cant stress that enough. It just baffles me to be honest and maybe its out of ignorance.)
Thanks for hearing out my long winded question, but I really needed to prefix this question because I never knew this sort of thing even existed and how popular it is, and how many are ex Catholics, Orthodox, and even tradition Protestants all practicing this almost ‘psuedo-Christianity’. When are they considered to be heathen or of another faith like Hinduism etc?
It’s undeniable most religions accept Jesus as either Messiah, has come in the flesh, or venerate him as the greatest human with a special divine conmection to God. I was quite amazed to learn some Sikh’s believe their turbans, daggar, hair, outfits and colors were claimed to be Jesus authentic ‘uniform’. The Islamic symbol of the cresent moon and star being Mary and Jesus. Honestly I find this very flattering and more evidenc of Jesus divinity.
Unfortunately there is only one religion I know of that is solely based off denying Jesus as Messiah, openly and without ‘ignorance’, and furthermore, this denial of Christ is even the pride and joy of thier ‘identity’ as a ‘blessed people’ on the earth - so i’d ask to exclude this particular group from the question.
In my ongoing walk and through a lot of socializing, debating in chatrooms and in person I’ve learned a lot about American ‘Christianity’ and even some Islam (which the CCC places in the plan of salvation). However, many Muslims admit they will have their own area in heaven and will have manditory ‘purgatory’ beforehand.
I hope this doesnt sound odd, but through exhasutuve first hand experience based learning with modern American ‘Christians’, I have feel i have ‘picked the brain’ of this group as a whole. I’ve concluded not only are they not 'c’atholic or Catholic, they are FAR away from being Protestant. For instance Baptists are now growingly against baptism.
I’ve condluded that these ‘Christians’ are a sort of practicing Muslim. They both believe in an age of reason to baptise/circumsice a child based on the childs concent. Both do not have a valid baptism/ritual baths (Father, Son, Holy Spirit). Both do not believe in apostalistic succession or basic athority to ‘command God’. Both do not believe in ‘church headship’ ie: each church/mosque is independant in a Freemasonic lodge/brotherhood system.
Where I believe this ‘Christianity’ crosses the line from even Islam and places them as ‘heathen’, is deep ‘soul opposition’ to The Catholic Church and Mary at almost any level, with many covertly denying the Virgin Birth or Jesus being God by becoming divine at Johns baptism etc. Almost ALL believe that God exists to serve them rather than vice versa, thus placing themselves as athorities in commanders of God. Its almost as each one of them is a denomination of ‘Christinaity’ unto themselves and their ‘churches’ facilitate this self empowerment similar to worldly motivational speaking but now Jesus has become the self help tool which I believe is a first in history.
My question is, if these people claim to do works and signs in Jesus name, in all senserity, and are ‘good people’ who claim to have a ‘personal relationsip’ and are ‘Spirit filled’, but willingly deny all the rest of the things that are fundemental to Christianity, how are these people to be considered, and will they be in the same place in heaven as the faithful Catholic layity for instance? (Please keep in mind the deep rooted opposition to Mary and The Catholic Church they have. I cant stress that enough. It just baffles me to be honest and maybe its out of ignorance.)
Thanks for hearing out my long winded question, but I really needed to prefix this question because I never knew this sort of thing even existed and how popular it is, and how many are ex Catholics, Orthodox, and even tradition Protestants all practicing this almost ‘psuedo-Christianity’. When are they considered to be heathen or of another faith like Hinduism etc?