Is there any thought you have had, mainly philosophical but not necessarily so, which you believe no one else has ever had?

[ynotzap]

I can’t say this is a thought that no-one ever had, and I am inclined to think someone has, but it doesn’t seem to be common, in philosophical, or scientific circles, but then again I may be wrong: There is no such thing as empty space. If space is completely absent, wouldn’t that mean that something that would occupy that space would not exist, it would be like a perimeter of something surrounding nothing. Similar to a vacuum, but with a difference. Can a vacuum be devoid of something, has science produced a perfect vacuum? I hold it can’t. I believe that the external force to produce the vacuum is maintained by the strength of the outer shell which is subject to shatter if is is not strong enough. It has a lot to do with the compression of the outer matter, such as the depth of water upon an object, or the weight of earth’s atmosphere due to the effect of gravity at ground level. A vacuum allows the release of this pressure on matter within the shell and allows it to expand to its free natural state, that which is experienced in outer space, which I believe is matter in its initial state, or refined state? How can you circumscribe something that doesn’t exist?

 

[Conradine]

I reached a kind of moral nihilism thinking to be the first human in the world to dream up that idea. Even if I knew Nietzche before. Well, it was quite a minute of pride XD

 

[Ridgerunner]

I very much doubt this is original with me. I have just not read it anywhere.

I have wondered whether the Paradise of Genesis was simply the same as the world we are in now. If Adam and Eve were perfectly in harmony with Divine Providence, and without a knowledge of good and evil, would they have thought of cold or heat or hunger as somehow evils? Some saints have come close to that; to perfect acceptance of Providence; so near it that they accepted everything that befell them, even joyously, considering them a grace. Even death. Did they know about death but didn’t think it an evil because they realized there was a continuity from this life to the next and, having complete acceptance of it, did they not mind death? Inasmuch as there was nothing to impede their ultimate good; union with God, everything that happened to them was objectively “good” and nothing was “evil”.

And the fruit of the forbidden tree; the “knowledge of good and evil”. Was that perhaps an arrogation of the “right” (the potential for which they always had) to decide for themselves what was subjectively “good” or “evil”. “This food is not good, so I reject it in anger.” “I’m tired, so I don’t want to get food for you.”

And having once tasted the “fruit” do we find it terribly difficult to achieve that innocence of good and evil again? Do some perhaps get so close, however, that they’re almost always “in Paradise”?

And is original sin that potentiality, and we’re born with the switch “on”? Are we born with it “on” (the knowledge of good and evil) or do we, having the potential to switch it “on”, do so with almost no exceptions? (Mary being perhaps the only one who perhaps realized it was there but did not switch it “on”.) And is that potential what we call Original Sin?

So, there it is. I sure don’t know the answer to it, but I will when I cross over Jordan.

 

[Robert_Sock]

Yes to the OP. I sometimes consider us all to be slaves, whether we be Pope or President.

"The death of the just: Death will reach everyone, the good and the bad; but the destiny of each one is quite different. The just man sees himself in this valley of tears as a prisoner, serving a very hard term. He considers himself a slave in this world, suffering an extremely distressing servitude. He regards himself a sailor caught in a horrible storm. And as death means an end of his confinement, an end of his slavery, and is the port of his salvation, he ceases not to cry with David, ‘Woe is me that my sojourning is prolonged!’ (Ps. 119:5)… He ceases not to ask with the Apostle’… Who shall deliver me from the body of this death? (Rom. 7:24)”
-The Golden Key to Heaven, by Saint Anthony Mary Claret

In my own case though, whoever brought me from out of the darkness must be motivated by love.

 

[ynotzap]

I can’t say this is a thought that no-one ever had, and I am inclined to think someone has, but it doesn’t seem to be common, in philosophical, or scientific circles, but then again I may be wrong: There is no such thing as empty space. If space is completely absent, wouldn’t that mean that something that would occupy that space would not exist, it would be like a perimeter of something surrounding nothing. Similar to a vacuum, but with a difference. Can a vacuum be devoid of something, has science produced a perfect vacuum? I hold it can’t. I believe that the external force to produce the vacuum is maintained by the strength of the outer shell which is subject to shatter if is is not strong enough. It has a lot to do with the compression of the outer matter, such as the depth of water upon an object, or the weight of earth’s atmosphere due to the effect of gravity at ground level. A vacuum allows the release of this pressure on matter within the shell and allows it to expand to its free natural state, that which is experienced in outer space, which I believe is matter in its initial state, or refined state? How can you circumscribe something that doesn’t exist?

I made a mistake in the above statement “If space is completely absent…” I meant "if matter is completely absent…, " sorry:blush: