Is there anyone here who can cite something they dont like about their religion?

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I would like to see more women wearing a covering in services again and women being taught to dress modestly and as women.

Wine in communion, fenced tables (some of ours do this and some don’t), and exclusive psalmody (some do and some don’t).

No, I would actually join a church that did this, but they don’t have one in our area.
 
LadyFlynt said:
I would like to see more women wearing a covering in services again and women being taught to dress modestly and as women.

Wine in communion, fenced tables (some of ours do this and some don’t), and exclusive psalmody (some do and some don’t).

No, I would actually join a church that did this, but they don’t have one in our area.
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What is your religion really? I tried googling it up but I am getting nothing.

Do you have an official site for your faith? I have never heard of it before.

What are fenced tables???:confused:

If a Church did these things you would simply up and go there? I am very confused…:confused:
 
Technically speaking in today’s terms I am a very conservative Presbyterian. As stated in the other thread, I used descriptive terms rather than denominational ones for a reason…that is that there are those that associate the name with one particular denominations. Some Presbyterian churches broke off of that one denomination and other Presbyterian churches were never connected with it to begin with. I even know of a baptist church that goes by the Presbyterian name because they are 5 point calvinist and have a presbyterian form of government…but they don’t go with many of the other major tenets of what is called presbyterianism.

There are certain churches that hold to those things and are open to others of those things (open to covering as they will not MAKE anyone wear a covering, but have many that do). Unfortunately they are not in our area. The closest one was killing us in gas during the summer months and is not interested in reaching out in a manner that we feel is important (ie., my husband is not one to just sit in a pew per se)…the next closest is two states away. No I would not just jump for those things alone. I believe doctrine takes a higher priority than if my communion cup hold wine or juice. Basically I have learned that I can’t have it all right now.

I know there are those that think I should look into this or that…no thank you. Simply because I do not agree with their doctrines. I also find inconsistancy in the catholic churches. I have been reading through here and have seen the “well, that was that parish, but that is only a small part of the whole church” (on the inerrancy or errancy of the Scriptures). I have to say that would matter to me. Why are those parishes not being held accountable for what they believe? If something that important was going on in one of our churches (right now the issue has been the Federal Visionists) we would do a study committee on it and then hold those men accountable for teaching false doctrine.

Now if there was a church that was sound in doctrine and in all areas of practice locally, yes, I would not hesitate to go there.
 
sassygal1973 said:
So, what is wrong with music?? We have a choir with a beautiful organist and our choir is very well known. They have beautiful voices. At Christmas when they sing my favorite, “O Holy Night”, and “O Come All Ye Faithful”, Silent Night". It is so powerful with the trumpets blowing and the choir.
LOVE OUR CHRISTMAS MUSIC AND MUSIC ABOUT OUR LORD DURING COMMUNION!! REJOICE AND BE GLAD!!
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What is wrong with music? Everything in it’s proper place - right?
sassygal is obviously one of those WHO think ALL Catholics want to hear her Trumpets, Organ and Choir. WE DON’T!!

We DO NOT go to Mass to be ENTERTAINED! At my old parish they pay a “cantor - a woman with a high voice” $100 each Sunday to sing over a P.A. System for two masses.
They pay the organist $100 also. Then they pay the ushers $30 per mass.

This has caused , in my mind, competition by the female singer to sing as loud as she can to get attention and keep her job. Can you imagine walking up to receive and you glance over to the screaming singer and notice it is as she is saying, “LOOK AT ME, I AM GREAT”. Ha, Ha.

I left that parish and now attend a parish that is silent during Communion. Now I can have a peaceful moment with our Lord.

If you want music - go to a concert. We go to Mass to worship and to learn more about our Lord Jesus. It is sacrilegious for a singer to overshadow a Sacrament.
 
In the last post “Flint” wrote, “Now if there was a church that was sound in doctrine and in all areas of practice locally, yes, I would not hesitate to go there.”

May I comment from a Latin Rite Catholic point of view?

I assume that you would be the one to determine what is “sound doctrine” Since you aren’t Catholic and have no authority over you, then what is your authority to determine “sound doctrine” I am just curious.

Us poor old Catholics have had 2000 years of our Holy men protecting the Scriptures, interpreting Sacred Scripture and revealing what the Scripture means as based upon the teachings of the Apostles.

Is there something new that I have missed? How does one determine “sound doctrine”?
 
Exporter2 said:
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What is wrong with music? Everything in it’s proper place - right?
sassygal is obviously one of those WHO think ALL Catholics want to hear her Trumpets, Organ and Choir. WE DON’T!!

We DO NOT go to Mass to be ENTERTAINED! At my old parish they pay a “cantor - a woman with a high voice” $100 each Sunday to sing over a P.A. System for two masses.
They pay the organist $100 also. Then they pay the ushers $30 per mass.

This has caused , in my mind, competition by the female singer to sing as loud as she can to get attention and keep her job. Can you imagine walking up to receive and you glance over to the screaming singer and notice it is as she is saying, “LOOK AT ME, I AM GREAT”. Ha, Ha.

I left that parish and now attend a parish that is silent during Communion. Now I can have a peaceful moment with our Lord.

If you want music - go to a concert. We go to Mass to worship and to learn more about our Lord Jesus. It is sacrilegious for a singer to overshadow a Sacrament.
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Do not tell me about attending Mass, as I go EVERY morning. No kidding we don’t go to be entertained. I am very involved from my preperation before Mass, until the very end.
During Communion, the songs are very sad. It is not sung throughout the WHOLE communion, just the beginning. And furthermore, they sing Christmas Holy music during our Vatican Christmas Mass b/c I was there. Are you willing to tell our Holy Father it is wrong? That he is not there to be entertained? It also plays during Communion at The Vatican. You worship God in your way, and I in mine…
Go to confession for judging others…
 
No need to get your feathers ruffeled.

Can you appreciate that many of us Catholics want to receive in peace and not have to conend with an amplified voice during that most Holy Time during the Mass. Can you understand we don’t attend Mass to be entertained?

Yes if the Holy Father was in front of our Council od the Knights of Colombus, I as a 4th degree Knight would be delighted to speak to Benedict XVI. I would be honored to tell him anything concerning the Church, loud music during Communion or how much I like my Bishop. Of course I would feel free to tell him I do not prefer loud music during Communion. I bet he doesn’t either. After all, he is a spiritual man. He doesn’t need the stimulus of music to pray. Music stirs the emotions - it is the Protestans that think worship has to be Emotional, Catholics know emotion is superficial.
 
Damascus said:
Be specific, and it has to be something your faith teaches and that you must accept to be in good standing.

If you dont have a problem with anything your faith teaches, was it always that way?

And lastly, have you ever had thoughts about starting up a new sect or religion?
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heehee! just the other day my friends and I were discussing the possibility of starting our own religion based entirely around the sacred writings of Dr. Seuss! 😃 this was a joke of course…
 
jon_crj200 said:
heehee! just the other day my friends and I were discussing the possibility of starting our own religion based entirely around the sacred writings of Dr. Seuss! 😃 this was a joke of course…
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Better than some I have seen here, and actually you would have Just As Much Right To Do So as the Innovators Have!😃
 
Things I Don’t Like About the United Methodist Church:
  1. Women pastors. (This didn’t used to bother me; I must be 😛 getting old…).
  2. I am never going to understand why we always have to have Welch’s grape juice for Holy Communion. (Especially since both my pastor & I have:yup: wine racks in our homes!)
  3. Women pastors. (This never used to bother me; I must be 😛 getting old…).
(Wanders off,:whacky: muttering something that sounds like :whistle: “deja-vu all over again”:hmmm: :ehh: :hmmm: …)
 
Again this is where we hit a brick wall with eachother. Sola Scriptura. The catholic church may have a 2000 yr history (and part of our history is in that), but the RCC has not remain consistant throughout it’s history.

We do believe in authority, btw. Our authority is the word of God. We do have men that are ordained and those ordinations go back to men that had been ordained by the RCC. This is considered lawful ordination. As one person stated on another board…the Catholic church was given the keys, dropped them, then the Reformers picked them up. (and no, obviously no one here is going to agree with that…however, that is the Reformed Protestant view)
 
LadyFlynt said:
Again this is where we hit a brick wall with eachother. Sola Scriptura. The catholic church may have a 2000 yr history (and part of our history is in that), but the RCC has not remain consistant throughout it’s history.

We do believe in authority, btw. Our authority is the word of God. We do have men that are ordained and those ordinations go back to men that had been ordained by the RCC. This is considered lawful ordination. As one person stated on another board…the Catholic church was given the keys, dropped them, then the Reformers picked them up. (and no, obviously no one here is going to agree with that…however, that is the Reformed Protestant view)
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Dropped the Keys? You mean the gates of Hell have prevailed against the RCC? If this is the case, and presumably it happened prior to the formation of your own denomination, and your founders were ordained within the RCC, then how are they any less in error?
 
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Zooey said:
Things I Don’t Like About the United Methodist Church:
  1. Women pastors. (This didn’t used to bother me; I must be 😛 getting old…).
  2. I am never going to understand why we always have to have Welch’s grape juice for Holy Communion. (Especially since both my pastor & I have:yup: wine racks in our homes!)
  3. Women pastors. (This never used to bother me; I must be 😛 getting old…).
muttering something that sounds like :whistle: “deja-vu all over again”:hmmm: :ehh: :hmmm: …)
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Valke2 said:
I have issues with the fact that the Orthodox have a monoply on the kosher food market. And I’d like to see Conservative Jews place a greater emphasis on study and applying the commandments to their lives everyday. (me included).
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That is too bad. I never knew that. I never eat any hot dogs except for the Hebrew National brand, and I also like the Manischiewicz (forgive me if I spelled it wrong) soups, crackers, etc. I think the Kosher foods are more pure than the other foods, and I am Catholic, not Jewish.
 
glimmer said:
Rule No. 1: “There is a God and He’s not you.”
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Oops… I don’t actually have a problem with that, but I wouldn’t be in good standing with my brothers and sisters if I didn’t believe that.
 
I don’t much think in those terms. The truth is what it is, too bad, so sad (said to myself). I don’t consider whether I like it or not. I suppose, though, there is one thing that comes to mind. I don’t easily encompass the idea of suffering that never ends. Also, in the past I’ve longed to fix my choice for God, but that is not an option.

However, I do dislike operational procedure from time to time. But that is not what OP asked.
 
Man a lot of Catholics that posted here have gotten banned. Whats up?

There is not one thing I dislike about my faith.

There is something I dislike about my Mass service though.

The Music Director is a show-boater. More attention is drawn toward the MD.

Cantor’s getting paid?
Ushers getting paid?

I am the Usher Chairperson at my Parish. I would consider it an insult to God to pay anyone for a such things. People should be willing to do these things for the Glory of God and not money…
 
JoeyWarren said:
Man a lot of Catholics that posted here have gotten banned. Whats up?

There is not one thing I dislike about my faith.

There is something I dislike about my Mass service though.

The Music Director is a show-boater. More attention is drawn toward the MD.

Cantor’s getting paid?
Ushers getting paid?

I am the Usher Chairperson at my Parish. I would consider it an insult to God to pay anyone for a such things. People should be willing to do these things for the Glory of God and not money…
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I don’t know what’s involved in being an usher, but knowing some cantors I think I can reasonably state that there is some significant work involved there, especially if you take the position seriously. You pay your music director don’t you?
 
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