Is there anyone that actually likes the guitar at Mass?

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I think I’m about as conservative as they come, with one exception. I HATE organ music. I actually like Masses with no music or where they have guitars, pianos & other instruments.

Organ music reminds me of funerals. And there is usually only a sorprano screeching along with the organist. If you are going to play the organ, I think you need a full fledged choir, with all three octaves to accompany it.
 
:rotfl: This just had me laughing because there’s a few places where I’ve been where they’ve even had a few pianos with just a “soprano screeching along”.

But yes, I like guitars at Mass because it lowers the range of music to a level that MOST people can sing along to, kwim?
 
Our organist and choir director, can’t sing in A440 tuning, so she must switch the organ to a step above A440. As a result, most men can’t sing along. Those men with higher voices, sing bass.

Anyway, our organ was broken last week, and we had to sing acapella. Ironically, most of the congregation sang because it was in A440.

BTW, I like guitars at Mass and in fact, I use to play guitar at Mass.

Jim
 
I confess I really am not that fond of the organ.

Actually I think the organ sounds quite magnificent in old stone, brick, or plaster churches. But I live in California where such churches are a rarity.

I’m always reading here in the forums of people lamenting the removal of high altars, communion rails, and choir lofts. Where do people live that the churches are old enough to have ever had such features in the first place? Do most people here actually attend Mass in pre-Vatican II buildings?

Churches around here (mostly built in the 1970s or later) tend to be made of wood and just don’t have the acoustics to do an organ justice in my opinion.

Actually my biggest complaint about the organ is that the notes are not as crisp as those of a piano. Most choirs I have been in tend to follow the organ rather than the choir director so they tend to be a few tenths of a second late. Imprecise timing makes me want to pull my hair out.

Also, organists (and some pianists) tend to play the melody line. I think that’s ugly. I prefer the instruments to play chords or emphasize harmonies. I like guitar if the guitarist picks (rather than mere strumming) and emphasizes the chord progression.
 
I can think of only two cantors in the past four years at three churches who were good. We prefer the contemporary Mass aand chior at our church with several guitars and other instruments. And my 19 month old daughter loves the music, which keeps her happy, quiet, and in the pew.
 
no guitar please. i’m converting from a non denomination church with some awesome rockin music but alas it wasn’t enough to keep me. and down right awful music cant keep me outat the catholic church. and it is awful(here) let me tell you.lol
i just try and focus on the meaning of the words. and i dont sing along very loudly for two reasons 1. i stink at singing and 2. it’s much too high for my voice. i worship God not music. i hope the music in heaven is better than ours.:harp: :rotfl:
 
I don’t really care for the organ. I like the guitar and drums. 🤷
 
I usually do not care for organ music at all (done properly it is fine but can very easily be done badly). I prefer piano when possible, I also do not mind guitar music. When done properly it adds to the entire Mass. Of course not all guitar players are equal and a poor one can make things worse but that is a case by case basis.
 
I like it all.

I even like it when it’s badly-played or badly-sung. It’s not a show, after all.

To me, the important thing is knowing something about the life and faith of the musicians. I would rather listen to an old gentleman with a quavering voice who has a beautiful Christian testimony than listen to an operatic singer who disgraces Christ with their lifestyle.

I play piano, BTW. But I love organ and guitar. I attended a Mass in Michigan where the musician played a beautiful classical guitar–so pretty! But I also like the strummed folk guitars, too. It’s all good.
 
I went to a Mass this past weekend in Gatlinburg TN, Saint Mary’s…small church, however, they had a guitarist. Played the guitar for the reading of the Psalms…it was beautiful! :angel1:
 
I like guitar when it’s played in a more acoustic manner, but not when it becomes loud and screechy and distinctly electric, like the way many bands play it. I enjoy some hand-banging guitar and drum songs, but they aren’t a good choice for mass. 😛
 
Several high school students play violin at Sunday Mass in my church.
One of my favorite bands is Freeway. Various instruments are played including clarinet when they play at Mass or Charismatic Conferences.
The actual instruments played in worship are less important than the worship itself. So yes I do like folk masses in which guitar is played although I do not attend them as much as I did in the past.
I remember a PBS special in which explorers collected music from various African tribes and used the music collected to write an African Mass. When they had finished their trip, the route they had taken formed a cross on the map of Africa.
 
When I hear about screeching “sopranos” or organists who only play melody lines, etc., it occurs to me that the people these churches have to lead the music liturgy are most-likely ok or bad musicians or not well-trained singers. When you don’t have good musicians for ANY genre of music, it makes for a bad, bad experience.

It’s a shame because, at least in my area and amongst my colleagues, the majority of good organists, who can really play and inspire don’t work in Catholic churches mainly because most Catholic churches just can’t afford to pay a liveable wage. So we’re stuck with people who are either ok or just bad. They give organists a bad name with poor stop choices, heavy “wah-wah” vibrato sound, playing everything at a funeral dirge, and a poor sense of rhythm. But I have been to some parishes where they have young people who are organ students and can play exceptionally well. I’ve also been to others where surprisingly there is an older organist who is a consummate musician, but have chosen to also have another day job - this is a difficult sacrifice to many musicians - we’d rather be practicing and perfecting our art. I’m also spoiled because our main organist at our Cathedral is one of the best in the city and he can make people rattle and shake and cry in spiritual awe and amazement with his playing. The people there are always so appreciative. The other “organist” - that’s a totally different story and that’s all I’ll say about him.

In regards to certain singers/cantors, I understand people’s frustration with some of them. I’m a professional singer and a cantor - a classically trained mezzo-soprano (lower than a soprano, higher than an alto - “Middle” voice) who is also a musician. Haha! Most cantors are not vocally trained or are early in their training. The women who aren’t trained and who have a naturally high voice don’t know how to ground their voices and sing “organically”. It’s hard to explain but by singing within your body, balanced with the head voice, it won’t make it sound like the voice is constantly in the stratosphere and too hard to sing for the congregant. It will sound, grounded, rich, full and approachable by someone who just wants to sing the hymn. The microphone is also a deterent in letting the congregation sing. If the cantor doesn’t know how to step away from the microphone to allow the people to sing (and unfortunately, for some, there is an ego issue, especially for those who always wanted a “career” in singing, but never got it), it will sound overbearing and turn off the congregant from singing. Anyway, that’s for another thread, but I believe this is the case by my own experience and the good feedback made by congregants who have attended the masses that I’ve cantored.

In terms of guitars for mass. I think it’s fine for retreats or house blessings where there is only mass in a room of a house. It might also be fine in a more modern church. Personally, I have yet to attend a guitar mass where I was inspired by the musicianship. It’s usually just strumming. I guess if that’s the best the church can offer, then it’s ok. But again, I’m spoiled by being around really good musicians and being trained musically, so my view is skewed by those things. It’s hard to go back when you’ve had the best, in my view, especially if there are possibilities for making something better and I have become panicked and physically ill, on the verge of vomiting when attending mass and having to sit through poor musicianship. Something I can’t help, but have tried to quell it by prayer.

Someone asked where do people live that have the big old churches with the choir lofts, altar rails, great acoustics, etc. I live on the east coast, and many of the churches here have those old churches. The people who lament them are probably from that area or maybe the midwest. I’ve never attended mass on the west coast, so I don’t know what the churches are like there. But I can totally understand an organ not sounded good in the type of church that the previous poster described. Perhaps a guitar or piano would sound better in them.
 
I would love to hear an accomplished guitar musician during Mass!

Unfortunately, all I’ve ever heard sounded like they had less than 1 month instruction, and strummed chords kum-ba-yah style on every hymn. Truly terrible, and a discredit to such a beautiful sounding instrument.

Its not the instrument, but the way the musician plays it.
 
I would love to hear an accomplished guitar musician during Mass!

Unfortunately, all I’ve ever heard sounded like they had less than 1 month instruction, and strummed chords kum-ba-yah style on every hymn. Truly terrible, and a discredit to such a beautiful sounding instrument.

Its not the instrument, but the way the musician plays it.
You said that so much better than I did my long post. (Sorry, I’m always too verbose!!! ) I totally agree with you. It would also be interesting to hear an accomplished lute player for a mass some time. The Beauty of it! 🙂
 
I’m a guitar player, so of course I love guitar at mass. The guitar is a very versatile instument, and there are times when strumming it and playing rythm are important. But I really like it when played fingerstyle. I am actually working on an arrangement of Ave Maria right now on my steel string and it sounds really beautiful. I also prefer acoustic guitar over electric.

At my old prish, we had a cantor that played guitar. I remember the time he played a beautiful versin of “Were You There”, it literaly gave be goose bumps, and brought me to tears.

As far as organ, no, I don’t care for it that much. I much prefer the piano.
 
I’m a guitar player, so of course I love guitar at mass. The guitar is a very versatile instument, and there are times when strumming it and playing rythm are important. But I really like it when played fingerstyle. I am actually working on an arrangement of Ave Maria right now on my steel string and it sounds really beautiful. I also prefer acoustic guitar over electric.

At my old prish, we had a cantor that played guitar. I remember the time he played a beautiful versin of “Were You There”, it literaly gave be goose bumps, and brought me to tears.
I bet they are lovely renditions. I agree… I prefer hearing fingerplaying especially with compositions like by Barrios Mangiore or other pieces for the classical guitar, but most churches that do have the guitar mass unfortunately do not have guitar players who do that.

But in an older church that was made for an organ, I prefer a well-maintained, real pipe organ (not one of those toasters - electronic organs that sound horriable and fake) played by a real consummate organ musician.
 
I think I’m about as conservative as they come, with one exception. I HATE organ music. I actually like Masses with no music or where they have guitars, pianos & other instruments.

Organ music reminds me of funerals. And there is usually only a sorprano screeching along with the organist. If you are going to play the organ, I think you need a full fledged choir, with all three octaves to accompany it.
We had a guitarist at our last mass this weekend, and …I LOVED IT. I welled up with tears nearly at every hymn that was sung…and this church sings beautiful songs, I must say. I normally do not like guitars at mass…but I must be growing more liberal in my older age.😛
 
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