Is there anything in these lyrics objectionable to Catholics?

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I heard this Christian praise song for the first time earlier this year and liked it immediately. I believe it was created by a Protestant in Northern Ireland, if I am not mistaken.

It’s called ‘In Christ Alone’.
youtube.com/watch?v=ENtL_li4GbE

Question for Catholics:
Are there any lyrics that would go against Catholic teaching? If so, which ones and why?
Just curious.

Most of the praise songs that I enjoy are shared by Catholic and non-Catholic Christians alike (or at least I think they are), but occasionally they’ll be one that has a line or two that goes against Catholic teaching.

For example, in 'Mary, Did You Know?’ sung at Christmas time in some places, there was one objectionable line in it, according to someone on ‘Catholic Answers’. The objectionable line was (speaking of Mary)::

Did you know
that your Baby Boy has come to make you new?
This Child that you delivered will soon deliver you.

I realize now that Catholic teaching is that Mary was born sinless and so she didn’t have to be “made new” in the sense of repenting of her sins. I now understand and respect this.

I was just curious if the abovementioned one has any lyrics that go against Catholic doctrine or teaching.
 
Tommy999 said:
I heard this Christian praise song for the first time earlier this year and liked it immediately. I believe it was created by a Protestant in Northern Ireland, if I am not mistaken. It’s called ‘In Christ Alone’.
youtube.com/watch?v=ENtL_li4GbE

Question for Catholics:
Are there any lyrics that would go against Catholic teaching? If so, which ones and why?
Just curious.

Most of the praise songs that I enjoy are shared by Catholic and non-Catholic Christians alike (or at least I think they are), but occasionally they’ll be one that has a line or two that goes against Catholic teaching.

For example, in 'Mary, Did You Know?’ sung at Christmas time in some places, there was one objectionable line in it, according to someone on ‘Catholic Answers’. The objectionable line was (speaking of Mary)::

Did you know
that your Baby Boy has come to make you new?
This Child that you delivered will soon deliver you.

I realize now that Catholic teaching is that Mary was born sinless and so she didn’t have to be “made new” in the sense of repenting of her sins. I was just curious if the one above had any lyrics that go against Catholic doctrine or teaching.
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I am pretty sure the overall message would be acceptable for Catholics. I don’t think any of it is in direct opposition, or contradictory. If anything there may be some differing opinions by individuals. But for the Church as a whole, I think this song would be accepted.
In Christ alone! who took on flesh
Fulness of God in helpless babe!
This gift of love and righteousness
Scorned by the ones he came to save:
Till on that cross as Jesus died,
The wrath of God was satisfied -
For every sin on Him was laid;
Here in the death of Christ I live
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Addressing the bold line from the lyrics:
I don’t think all Catholics see it that way; satisfying God’s wrath. But I don’t know the official Church teaching regarding this. Though Satisfaction Theory is a common one among Catholics. I think this is more of an individual interpretation thing.
There in the ground His body lay
Light of the world by darkness slain:
Then bursting forth in glorious Day
Up from the grave he rose again!
And as He stands in victory
Sin’s curse has lost its grip on me,
For I am His and He is mine -
Bought with the precious blood of Christ
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.

However, this sounds like the Ransom theory of the Atonement. That is a common view of the Atonement by many Catholic. So I would say this doesn’t contradict church teaching, may just not be the way some individual Catholic interpret the Atonement.
 
Tommy999 said:
I heard this Christian praise song for the first time earlier this year and liked it immediately. I believe it was created by a Protestant in Northern Ireland, if I am not mistaken.

It’s called ‘In Christ Alone’.
youtube.com/watch?v=ENtL_li4GbE

Question for Catholics:
Are there any lyrics that would go against Catholic teaching? If so, which ones and why?
Just curious.

Most of the praise songs that I enjoy are shared by Catholic and non-Catholic Christians alike (or at least I think they are), but occasionally they’ll be one that has a line or two that goes against Catholic teaching.

For example, in 'Mary, Did You Know?’ sung at Christmas time in some places, there was one objectionable line in it, according to someone on ‘Catholic Answers’. The objectionable line was (speaking of Mary)::

Did you know
that your Baby Boy has come to make you new?
This Child that you delivered will soon deliver you.

I realize now that Catholic teaching is that Mary was born sinless and so she didn’t have to be “made new” in the sense of repenting of her sins. I now understand and respect this.

I was just curious if the abovementioned one has any lyrics that go against Catholic doctrine or teaching.
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Didnt hear anything objectionable on the surface. Its the kind of song we play during charismatic Masses.

Btw, the one in your sig line is one of my very favorites 👍
 
Lenten_ashes said:
Didnt hear anything objectionable on the surface. Its the kind of song we play during charismatic Masses.

Btw, the one in your sig line is one of my very favorites 👍
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Yes, *‘Blessed be Your Name’ *is one of my all-time favorites, as well, and I’m pretty sure there are no objectionable lyrics in it. I try not to knowingly put anything that I know to be objectionable (except to Satan) in my sig line.
 
Jake_Parker said:
I am pretty sure the overall message would be acceptable for Catholics. I don’t think any of it is in direct opposition, or contradictory. If anything there may be some differing opinions by individuals. But for the Church as a whole, I think this song would be accepted.

Addressing the bold line from the lyrics:
I don’t think all Catholics see it that way; satisfying God’s wrath. But I don’t know the official Church teaching regarding this. Though Satisfaction Theory is a common one among Catholics. I think this is more of an individual interpretation thing.

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However, this sounds like the Ransom theory of the Atonement. That is a common view of the Atonement by many Catholic. So I would say this doesn’t contradict church teaching, may just not be the way some individual Catholic interpret the Atonement.
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Thank you, Jane. I was wondering about "The wrath of God’ line, also, but didn’t know for sure.
 
I’d say my top favorite CCM songs:
Beautiful Things, One Thing Remains, Oceans, From The Inside Out, 10,000 Reasons, You’re Beautiful (Phil Wickham), Lead Me to the Cross, Relentless, Build Your Kingdom Here, Lord I Need You,
 
Tommy999 said:
For example, in 'Mary, Did You Know?’ sung at Christmas time in some places, there was one objectionable line in it, according to someone on ‘Catholic Answers’. The objectionable line was (speaking of Mary)::

Did you know
that your Baby Boy has come to make you new?
This Child that you delivered will soon deliver you.
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No, the worst part about that silly song is the dang title. Uh… Of course she knew. The angel told her. It’s not like she was texting Elizabeth or something.

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steido01 said:
No, the worst part about that silly song is the dang title. Uh… Of course she knew. The angel told her. It’s not like she was texting Elizabeth or something.

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Amen. Why they sing this mess of a song at Catholic Masses,** I’ll never know. **

It seems to be a go-to solo for every radio wannabe at Midnight Mass everywhere
Like O Holy Night, Gesu Bamino, or It Came Upon a MIdnight Clear are not enough to flex your chops???
:banghead:

I do like Lord I Need You though. It’s beautiful.
 
Tommy999 said:
I heard this Christian praise song for the first time earlier this year and liked it immediately. I believe it was created by a Protestant in Northern Ireland, if I am not mistaken.

It’s called ‘In Christ Alone’.
youtube.com/watch?v=ENtL_li4GbE

Question for Catholics:
Are there any lyrics that would go against Catholic teaching? If so, which ones and why?
Just curious.

Most of the praise songs that I enjoy are shared by Catholic and non-Catholic Christians alike (or at least I think they are), but occasionally they’ll be one that has a line or two that goes against Catholic teaching.

For example, in 'Mary, Did You Know?’ sung at Christmas time in some places, there was one objectionable line in it, according to someone on ‘Catholic Answers’. The objectionable line was (speaking of Mary)::

Did you know
that your Baby Boy has come to make you new?
This Child that you delivered will soon deliver you.

I realize now that Catholic teaching is that Mary was born sinless and so she didn’t have to be “made new” in the sense of repenting of her sins. I now understand and respect this.

I was just curious if the abovementioned one has any lyrics that go against Catholic doctrine or teaching.
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Thank goodness there are people out there looking for new ways that we can distinguish ourselves from you, and vice versa. Like the Protestant church, a number of years back, that changed the line “Jesus the son of Mary” to “Jesus the son of God” in What Child is This? 👍

JK. :cool:
 
Lenten_ashes said:
All time favorite:

youtube.com/watch?v=mBcqria2wmg
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Yes, that is a very nice one. I like it very much, also, and the message it brings about how our lives are so small and insignificant compared to Christ but that He wants so much to have a close and intimate relationship with us in all we are going through. That’s pretty awesome.

And thanks for being one of the few who answered my original topic question. 🙂
 
Thanks to all. I consider this topic closed. May the Lord bless all of you.
 
Tommy999 said:
I heard this Christian praise song for the first time earlier this year and liked it immediately. I believe it was created by a Protestant in Northern Ireland, if I am not mistaken.

It’s called ‘In Christ Alone’.
youtube.com/watch?v=ENtL_li4GbE

Question for Catholics:
Are there any lyrics that would go against Catholic teaching? If so, which ones and why?
Just curious.

Most of the praise songs that I enjoy are shared by Catholic and non-Catholic Christians alike (or at least I think they are), but occasionally they’ll be one that has a line or two that goes against Catholic teaching.

For example, in 'Mary, Did You Know?’ sung at Christmas time in some places, there was one objectionable line in it, according to someone on ‘Catholic Answers’. The objectionable line was (speaking of Mary)::

Did you know
that your Baby Boy has come to make you new?
This Child that you delivered will soon deliver you.

I realize now that Catholic teaching is that Mary was born sinless and so she didn’t have to be “made new” in the sense of repenting of her sins. I now understand and respect this.

I was just curious if the abovementioned one has any lyrics that go against Catholic doctrine or teaching.
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“In Christ Alone” is fine. Our choir plays it often
 
pianistclare said:
Amen. Why they sing this mess of a song at Catholic Masses,** I’ll never know. **

It seems to be a go-to solo for every radio wannabe at Midnight Mass everywhere
Like O Holy Night, Gesu Bamino, or It Came Upon a MIdnight Clear are not enough to flex your chops???
:banghead:

I do like Lord I Need You though. It’s beautiful.
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HUH? :eek:
 
Like Amazing Grace, also written by a Protestant with a Protestant theological underpinnings, it all depends on how it is interpreted.

The final lines of the 3rd stanza and the last stanza of In Christ Alone could be interpreted according to OSAS theology, and I assume it is by the lyricist and those who sing and play it:

Sin’s curse has lost its grip on me,
For I am His and He is mine -
Bought with the precious blood of Christ.

No guilt in life, no fear in death,
This is the power of Christ in me;
From life’s first cry to final breath.
Jesus commands my destiny.
No power of hell, no scheme of man,
Can ever pluck me from His hand;
Till He returns or calls me home,
Here in the power of Christ I’ll stand.

Catholics wouldn’t have to interpret along those lines, but still it’s a bit iffy in that regard. It’s not a hymn but a spiritual song, not really suitable for the Liturgy of the Mass, but okay for personal listening pleasure, if one likes that dreamy kind of sing-songy melody–which is not to my tastes, but that’s me. 😉
 
Way back in my Presbyterian days, we had communion only every 3 months. It was a solemn occasion, and as part of it we would sing the hymn “Here, O My Lord, I See You Face to Face.”

I liked the song, and enjoyed hearing it sung by the congregation.

I’ve wondered though if the word “symbols” in verse 5 would disqualify it as a Catholic song?

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Here, O My Lord, I See You Face to Face
By: Horatius Bonar

*1
Here, O my Lord, I see Thee face to face;
Here faith can touch and handle things unseen;
Here would I grasp with firmer hand Thy grace,
And all my weariness upon Thee lean.

Here would I feed upon the Bread of God;
Here drink with Thee the royal wine of heav’n;
Here would I lay aside each earthly load;
Here taste afresh the calm of sin forgiv’n.

3
I have no help but Thine; nor do I need
Another arm save Thine to lean upon;
It is enough, my Lord, enough indeed;
My strength is in Thy might, Thy might alone.

4
This is the hour of banquet and of song;
This is the heav’nly table spread for me;
Here let me feast, and, feasting, still prolong
The brief bright hour of fellowship with Thee.

5
Too soon we rise; the symbols disappear;
The feast, though not the love, is past and gone;
The bread and wine remove, but Thou art here,
Nearer than ever still our Shield and Sun.

6
Feast after feast thus comes and passes by,
Yet passing, points to the glad feast above,
Giving sweet foretastes of the festal joy,
The Lamb’s great bridal-feast of bliss and love.
*
 
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