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I have a question for all involved here. Do you accept that “The Constitution On The Catholic Church (Lumen Gentium)” and “Dominus Iesus” both come from the teaching authority of the Catholic Church, i.e. The Magisterium and must be accepted as having the same authority of the other documents of the writings and teaching of Church Fathers, popes and councils cited through out this thread?
Cstudent, maybe this is a good thing for you or perhaps it is not but I was about to start using the sermon of Our Holy Father you quoted. From the first time I read this homily I was struck by his conclusion why people take the strict attitude and literal meaning of EENS.
Yes I doTOME asked:“The Constitution On The Catholic Church (Lumen Gentium)” and “Dominus Iesus” both come from the teaching authority of the Catholic Church, i.e. The Magisterium
No there are levels of authority even in Magisterial documents: (1) Definitive Dogma, (2) Authoritative Doctrine, (3) Non-definitive, Doctrine, (4) Prudential admonitions.TOME stated;both come from the teaching authority of the Catholic Church, i.e. The Magisterium and must be accepted as having the same authority of the other documents of the writings and teaching of Church Fathers, popes and councils cited through out this thread
A de fide ( i.e. Definitive Dogma) statement by a Pope or a Council is the highest authority and all other documents must be seen in the light of those already clearly defined dogmas not the other way around:
**Pope Pius XII, “HUMANI GENERIS”- AUGUST 12, 1950 **
21…This deposit of faith our Divine Redeemer has given for authentic interpretation not to each of the faithful, not even to theologians, but only to the Teaching Authority of the Church. But if the Church does exercise this function of teaching, as she often has through the centuries, either in the ordinary or extraordinary way, it is clear how false is a procedure which would attempt to explain what is clear by means of what is obscure. Indeed the very opposite procedure must be used. Hence Our Predecessor of immortal memory, Pius IX, teaching that the most noble office of theology is to show how a doctrine defined by the Church is contained in the sources of revelation, added these words, and with very good reason: **“in that sense in which it has been defined by the Church.” **
According to standards presently employed by the Holy See and codified in Canon Law, there are three kinds of magisterial statement, three levels of authoritative teaching which establish the “the order of the truths to which the believer adheres.”[1] They are (1) truths taught as divinely revealed, (2) definitively proposed statements on matters closely connected with revealed truth, and (3) ordinary teaching on faith and morals. A fourth category, ordinary prudential teaching on disciplinary matters, is commonly accepted by theologians and can be inferred from the text of Cardinal Ratzinger’s Donum Veritatis.
Richard R. Gaillardetz, Teaching With Authority: A Theology of the Magisterium in the Church, Theology and Life Series, Vol 41 (Collegeville: Liturgical Press, 1997), 102.
also see
:http://www.trosch.org/the/ottintro.htmLudwig Ott:
:http://www.ewtn.com/library/scriptur/4levels.txtFather Most