Is this a Sin?

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Does any one agree? If a married man has a vasectomy (surgery making the male sterile) done, he should not have sexual intercourse with his wife knowing that they can not have kids, isn’t this just doing it for the pleasure? What is the Catholic church’s view on this? I may be wrong in thinking that it is not right, but it sure doesn’t seem right.

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interesting thought. i wonder how much would depend on his attitude about it; had he understood his wrong and regretted it. i don’t know if he should be restricted from knowing his wife maritally between the time he confesses his sin until he has the procedure reversed. does the benefit of conjugal relations outweigh the (now) temporary sterility? again, nice question.
thanks for listening, love and peace, terry
 
What makes you think taking pleasure in sex is wrong? The Church teaches quite the opposite. Though She does stipulate that the couple should leave open the possibility of children. A married couple are SUPPOSED to enjoy sex.

As to the vasectomy. A vasectomy is wrong. It is a serious sin because it is contrary to life. Continuing to have sex with your spouse after having the vasectomy is not a sin.

If the sin is confessed and the penance the priest gave in Confession if done, then the sin is forgiven and nothing more is required.

Of course, it is always good to do a little extra motification for our sins. BUT, when we decide to make additional (non-required) sacrifices for our sins, (in this case abstaining from sex) these practices should not be imposed on others (like the spouse)–they should almost be our secrets. One should not make the spouse pay the penance for ones own sins.
 
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Chaffa55:
Please see the link below for the answer from the “apologist” forum:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=6045&highlight=vasectomy

Hope this helps. BTW, I know a family where the husband had a vasectomy reversal, and subsequently had two children. Peace and blessings.
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It just doesn’t seem right to be able to continue having sex, knowing that it is NOT for pro creation, that is why the good LORD gave us the conjugal act, for procreation, not for JUST pleasure. What does God think, not what we think. Isn’t that surgery just another form of contraception?
 
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zeek:
Does any one agree? If a married man has a vasectomy (surgery making the male sterile) done, he should not have sexual intercourse with his wife knowing that they can not have kids, isn’t this just doing it for the pleasure?
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Whether it was a sin or not to have the vasectomy would depend on his knowledge at the time of the surgery. If he truly didn’t know it was against the teaching of the Catholic Church, it would not be considered a mortal sin, since knowledge is required for mortal sin. After he learns it is against the teachings of the Church he must confess, if he does not it would be a sin to have sexual relations. After he has confessed and been and forgiven he would not be sinning to have normal sexual relations with his wife. The vasectomy would have been a mortal sin if he realized it was against the teachings of the Church and he went ahead and did it anyway.
 
I don’t think you got an answer to your question yet.I believe you can go to confession IF you are truly sorry that you had the vasectomy done and be forgiven. I worked for a urologist for 9 years and I know that reversal is sometimes impossible, depending on how the vas was cut or cut and cauterized. It may be that they are too short to reconnect. It is a very expensive proceedure that most insurance companies won’t pay for. It may be that you would like it done but can’t afford it at this time. I do know that the more time that has elapsed since the original surgery the harder it is is to reverse.
Best suggestion is to talk to your priest about forgiveness for the surgery, I don’t believe that you will be required to be celebate for the rest of your life.
maggiec
 
I believe that continuing to have sex with your spouse after having the vasectomy is not a sin but having the operation would be a sin.
 
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Tom:
… After he has confessed and been and forgiven he would not be sinning to have normal sexual relations with his wife. The vasectomy would have been a mortal sin if he realized it was against the teachings of the Church and he went ahead and did it anyway …
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What happens if the penance is to have the operation reversed and the person refuses?
 
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zeek:
Yes I had read that, Thanks. Going to confession and repenting of it is a great thing but thereafter, having intercourse with a women knowing that no life will come of it is just enjoying the pleasure with the procreative act. It seems like another form of contraception without being called contraception. Just my opinions thanks.
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If you are repentant and are still open to the possibility of procreation, than there is no sin in enjoying sex with your wife. If you had some medical condition that left you or your wife sterile, sex without likelihood of pregnancy would not be forbidden.
 
Sir Knight:
What happens if the penance is to have the operation reversed and the person refuses?
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No such requirement (e.g., reversal) exists with a vasectomy.
 
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maggiec:
I don’t think you got an answer to your question yet.I believe you can go to confession IF you are truly sorry that you had the vasectomy done and be forgiven. I worked for a urologist for 9 years and I know that reversal is sometimes impossible, depending on how the vas was cut or cut and cauterized. It may be that they are too short to reconnect. It is a very expensive proceedure that most insurance companies won’t pay for. It may be that you would like it done but can’t afford it at this time. I do know that the more time that has elapsed since the original surgery the harder it is is to reverse.
Best suggestion is to talk to your priest about forgiveness for the surgery, I don’t believe that you will be required to be celebate for the rest of your life.
maggiec
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I haven’t had the surgery, it was a subject in another forum, but thanks anyway.
 
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zeek:
It just doesn’t seem right to be able to continue having sex, knowing that it is NOT for pro creation, that is why the good LORD gave us the conjugal act, for procreation, not for JUST pleasure. What does God think, not what we think. Isn’t that surgery just another form of contraception?
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I have heard priests say that we not only have to ask for and receive Christ’s forgiveness, we have to ACCEPT it. If the one with the vasectomy continues feeling guilt over it they need to pray, consult their Priest and ACCEPT that GOD has given them forgiveness. We sometimes tend to be harder on ourselves than the Lord is. Gods forgiveness is REAL. If one has repented of one’s sin and received Christ’s forgiveness through the Sacrament of Penance, then one is indeed forgiven. No IFs ANDs or BUTs.
 
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metal1633:
I have heard priests say that we not only have to ask for and receive Christ’s forgiveness, we have to ACCEPT it. If the one with the vasectomy continues feeling guilt over it they need to pray, consult their Priest and ACCEPT that GOD has given them forgiveness. We sometimes tend to be harder on ourselves than the Lord is. Gods forgiveness is REAL. If one has repented of one’s sin and received Christ’s forgiveness through the Sacrament of Penance, then one is indeed forgiven. No IFs ANDs or BUTs.
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Defineately right, God is merciful in deed. His mercy is infinately deep.
 
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metal1633:
No such requirement (e.g., reversal) exists with a vasectomy.
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I’ve seen news stories reporting that it is indeed possible to have a vasectomy reversed.

I also personally know a woman who had her “tubes tied” to avoid having any more children and when she confessed this, the priest told her she was not to receive the sacrements until she had the operation reversed. She hasn’t received communion or gone to confession since and that was nearly a decade ago.

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Sir Knight:
What happens if the penance is to have the operation reversed and the person refuses?
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It would never happen, no priest would require such an operation.
 
Sir Knight:
I’ve seen news stories reporting that it is indeed possible to have a vasectomy reversed.

I also personally know a woman who had her “tubes tied” to avoid having any more children and when she confessed this, the priest told her she was not to receive the sacrements until she had the operation reversed. She hasn’t received communion or gone to confession since and that was nearly a decade ago.

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Find this lady and have her talk to another priest. What a shame. This lady needs your help to be rejoined to the sacraments and to the Church fully!
 
If a person knew that it was wrong and had the surgery anyway, then YES it would be sinful for he and his wife to have sex because they are knowingly and willfully practicing artificial contraception.
 
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zeek:
It just doesn’t seem right to be able to continue having sex, knowing that it is NOT for pro creation, that is why the good LORD gave us the conjugal act, for procreation, not for JUST pleasure. What does God think, not what we think. Isn’t that surgery just another form of contraception?
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So is it your belief that once a woman passes menopause, and procreation is no longer possible, and the only reason for having sex is the pleasure, that a husband and wife should stop having sex?

DaveBj
 
in terms of viewing sex as having been designed as a procreative act, not just a pleasure act…i’m sure everyone here is thinking that the operation has left the man artifically sterile, that he has decided to remove God from the act so it could only be for pleasure and that’s why it’s wrong. i’m hoping no one is thinking that sex must produce children or else it is offensive to God. the love of a married couple should be shared throughout their marriage. (although my nana did end conjugal relations w/ my grandfather after her childbearing years had ended.)
thanks for listening, love and peace, terry
 
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