Is This Called For At Mass?

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The local pastor seems to borrow from other traditions. With the installment of the Marty Haugen Mass of Singpraise, he has included a little singalong which follows Prayers of The Faithful. This changes with the liturgical season. Following the final prayer intention, the priest turns toward the Faithful, hands spread apart a few feet at waist height. A number of folks in the pews join in–possibly facilitators. Others believe that they must as well.
The pastor takes several moments to explain–to any newcomers–what songs will be sung. These are nowhere to be found…

During the Advent season:

Hear O Lord, the sound of our call!
Hear O Lord, and answer.
Our soul is longing for the glory of You!
Hear O Lord, and answer!

For Lent:

Oh God hear us!
Hear our prayer!
(repeat twice more)

Ordinary Time:

God the Father, hear our prayer
Hear us God the Son
Holy Spirit, hear our prayer
Mercy on Your people Lord!

I discovered the lenten chant is taken from a penance service. What about the other two chants?
 
Having been at Masses were all of the parts were chanted/sung, including the Gospel, I cannot see why this would be a problem.
 
Reverent_Howler said:
The local pastor seems to borrow from other traditions. With the installment of the Marty Haugen Mass of Singpraise, he has included a little singalong which follows Prayers of The Faithful. This changes with the liturgical season. Following the final prayer intention, the priest turns toward the Faithful, hands spread apart a few feet at waist height. A number of folks in the pews join in–possibly facilitators. Others believe that they must as well.
The pastor takes several moments to explain–to any newcomers–what songs will be sung. These are nowhere to be found…

During the Advent season:

Hear O Lord, the sound of our call!
Hear O Lord, and answer.
Our soul is longing for the glory of You!
Hear O Lord, and answer!

For Lent:

Oh God hear us!
Hear our prayer!
(repeat twice more)

Ordinary Time:

God the Father, hear our prayer
Hear us God the Son
Holy Spirit, hear our prayer
Mercy on Your people Lord!

I discovered the lenten chant is taken from a penance service. What about the other two chants?
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Why not ask your priest ?
 
These chants are not listed or mentioned in any missal or hymnal. Why is everyone expected to commit these to memory, yet have need for an aid to recite the Nicene Creed and Agnus Dei? Are these reserved to the priest? If so, why does he not offer kind correction?

We also note that these novelties do not occur when other priests celebrate the Mass. Especially when the ordinary of the diocese is concelebrating. Perhaps one has stumbled upon a liturgical abuse?
 
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These chants are not listed or mentioned in any missal or hymnal. Why is everyone expected to commit these to memory, yet have need for an aid to recite the Nicene Creed and Agnus Dei?
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Perhaps the parish has not been granted permission to reprint, copyright and licensing does apply to Mr Haugen’s work as well as the work done by other composers of Sacred Music.

Ask the Pastor or the Music Director.

Sung Mass parts are an ancient tradition, they are not an innovation.
 
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Why is everyone expected to commit these to memory, yet have need for an aid to recite the Nicene Creed
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As a practical matter, “Oh God Hear Us, Hear Our Prayer” is hardly as long or complicated as the Nicene Creed, and is easier for English speakers than the Agnus Dei in Latin.

Why do you seemingly have such an issue with this?
 
TheLittleLady said:
Sung Mass parts are an ancient tradition, they are not an innovation.
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I know one of the Spanish Masses I regularly attend has several of these song-prayers. I don’t speak Spanish fluently, so I don’t always understand all the words, but from what I do gather it’s pretty much like the spoken prayer would be at that point in the Mass.
It’s not a big deal and the people who go to that Mass regularly sing along just fine.
 
Those are all familiar to me – by just seeing the words I can hear the music that goes with them. I’ve heard them all at Mass. I don’t understand the problem except that, as always, people have different preferences in music.
 
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Reverent_Howler:
These chants are not listed or mentioned in any missal or hymnal. Why is everyone expected to commit these to memory, yet have need for an aid to recite the Nicene Creed and Agnus Dei?
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Perhaps the parish has not been granted permission to reprint, copyright and licensing does apply to Mr Haugen’s work as well as the work done by other composers of Sacred Music.
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I think this is the answer. In our parish this Christmas we had to consider the problem of using copyright hymns which the music group were keen on but which were not in the hymn books we provide. We were advised that we could produce printed words on a hand-out, as long as the hand-out was dated - e.g. Midnight Mass 2018 - and so it was clear that we weren’t going to use them instead of the purchased hymn books as a general thing.
 
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Hear O Lord, the sound of our call!
Hear O Lord, and answer.
Our soul is longing for the glory of You!
Hear O Lord, and answer!
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This was composed by Ray Repp a Catholic songwriter in the '60s. You can google him. There are also songs on You Tube (and itunes) He was published by Oregon Catholic Press.

I believe the lyrics of the original had My instead of Our in those spots.
 
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This novelty seems exclusive to a given parish. It goes away when Mass is celebrated by a different priest. Also the Agnus Dei–a simple prayer–is outlined in the worship aid which is provided.
 
A pity this is not included in the provided worship aid for the Mass here. Perhaps it is reserved for the celebrant alone?
 
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This was composed by Ray Repp a Catholic songwriter in the '60s. You can google him. There are also songs on You Tube (and itunes) He was published by Oregon Catholic Press.
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Yeah, we sang this at guitar Mass when I was like 6 to 8 years old. It had multiple verses and was a good song.
 
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These chants are not listed or mentioned in any missal or hymnal. Why is everyone expected to commit these to memory,
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Yet you listed them here word by word. I am not trying to be fisty with you but since you know them, they are not complex, can you not just as well memorize them?
 
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included a little singalong which follows Prayers of The Faithful. This changes with the liturgical season. Following the final prayer intention, the priest turns toward the Faithful, hands spread apart a few feet at waist height. A number of folks in the pews join in–possibly facilitators.
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🤔 Am I the only person here praying that this does not come to their parish? I would ask your priest the reason for the sing along at this particular point of Mass.
 
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