Is this disrespectful to Mormons?

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In his general conference address, Mormon church President Russell M. Nelson made a very correct and very profound statement:

“People could talk about “Mormons” and “the Mormon Church” all day long, and never once have Jesus Christ enter their thoughts.”

I could not have said that any better.
 
Actually it’s not at all like that, not even close. It seems as though you are commenting on a subject you don’t really understand. Maybe you should spend some time learning about the history of Mormonism and then you might understand why this change is ridiculous.
 
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It won’t pay off because it won’t stick. “Mormon” is way too ingrained in their culture to just be suddenly dropped. The whole thing is just a silly marketing ploy. Other than births their growth has pretty much stopped. They are losing tons of members in the U.S. and Europe as Mormons become more educated about the real history of their church. They had to lower the age for female missionaries to stem the tide of declining numbers of new missionaries. The church has been exposed for the fraud that it is. Their greatest days are past, and it’s downhill from here.
 
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Lemuel said:
Follow the prophet.
Follow the prophet.
Follow the prophet.
Don’t go astray–ay.

Follow the prophet.
Follow the prophet.
Follow the prophet.
He knows the way.
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Is there a finger-in-the-throat emoji for that?
 
I wouldn’t use declining numbers, particularly in the US and Europe, as a gauge for being revealed as a fraud. Otherwise you’d have to lump pretty much every branch of Christianity, including Catholicism and my own Anglicanism, into the same boat along with pretty much every other religion. Atheism and Nonism are the main growth areas these days.
 
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Declining numbers in and of themselves are not indicators of Mormonism being a fraud. Why those numbers are declining IS. It’s the why that matters. Just like every other religion, Mormons are losing numbers due to apathy and a societal move away from religion in general. But where they are different is that they are also losing many members because of what members are learning about their own history. Many Mormons are reading themselves out of Mormonism.
 
Did you see the new lighted sign they are using at General Conference?
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Wait, they have a sign that lights up declaring in what capacity he is speaking? Is this new?

And can Pope Francis get one for when a statement is merely pastoral, authoritative and/or infallible? I’m only half joking about that last bit.
 
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It’s a joke. Somebody just making fun of an issue that constantly comes up when LDS leaders speak from the pulpit. Mormons take everything their leaders say as gospel truth, but when they conflict with past teaching or just plain say something crazy, LDS then say the previous prophet must have been speaking as a man instead as a prophet. And round and round it goes.
 
I think you replied to me by mistake; I was never referring to Mormonism, and I’ll freely admit I know practically nothing about it. My comments referred to other posters’ hateful commentary and the uncharitable (unChristian) way in which they choose to approach this topic.
 
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They have always been “Mormons” to me and always will be. I believe that in ten years from now, the world will still be calling them Mormons. I won’t call them by their official name because it invokes the name of Jesus Christ and they do not worship the same Jesus Christ that I know. Is it disrespectful if I continue to call them Mormons?
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According to their new official style-guide (Church Newsroom - Official Newsroom of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) , one can simply refer to them as “Latter-day Saints”. There’s no need to invoke our Lord’s name when referring to them.
 
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O.k. I will reply to you with a couple thoughts:
  1. I read every post in the thread and no one said anything hateful. You are greatly exaggerating.
  2. This thread is about how the leadership of the LDS church has suddenly decided that it does not want to be referred to any longer as “Mormon” or “LDS.” Without knowing the history and proper context of this decision, you really don’t have any idea of how ridiculous this change is. It’s not a simple matter of them just wanting to be called something different. There is a great amount of history and context behind this and so your comments about it come out of ignorance.
 
You can catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I think I recently heard someone say something like this in relation to changing one’s gender identity. They would refuse to call whoever by their preferred gender. Ya know I get what you’re saying but is it worth the cost of possibly opening a door to sharing your own faith or having a relationship with another human being. It could be seen as disrespectful.
Years ago, at work we had school supplies drive and I told my boss how dumb it was that we had to even have this for school supplies (like the school should provide that) and he told me very sweetly “okay yes, now get over yourself and donate” I was like “what?” He said it again, “get over yourself, and donate”… haha to this day if I find myself getting an ego, smug or an attitude, I think of him telling me to get over myself! But it’s true and it’s not easy. I didn’t realize I was just being stubborn in my own opinions. I thank God for people who will tell you like it is even if it stings 😂.
 
I have a hard time making sense of that. Is the object of their re-branding to include the name of Jesus Christ or is it to distance itself from the Mormon label? What’s the difference between saying Latter-day Saint or Mormon? Neither term invokes the name of Jesus Christ. I think it’s all about distancing themselves from all the Mormon baggage.
 
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I have a hard time making sense of that. Is the object of their re-branding to include the name of Jesus Christ or is it to distance itself from the Mormon label?
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I think its the former. Several years ago, the RLDS, the Mormon offshoot, relabeled themselves as “The Community of Christ”. I’m sure the folks in Salt Lake were interested in the rebranding, and may see it as a success and hope to duplicate?
 
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My favorite moment from this general conference.
 
I think the Mormons are doing what every other faith tradition is doing…trying to make themselves relavant for today.
Denying that relavancy matters is foolish.
Why anyone would begrudge a group from “exploring” who they are is beyond me.
Why antagonize people that are on the same Journey you are? What do you hope to accomplish by denying their faith journey?
If Truth is what you wish to convey, why can’t you accept the Latter-day Saints deep honest search of discovery? Why call others names they can’t embrace?
 
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If they have a problem with the label “Mormon,” they need to take it up with their religion’s founder, Joseph Smith. He’s the one who started the whole thing.
 
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