Is this for "Real"?

[Confiteor]

From a seminar entitled: “Reclaiming the Power of Sunday Eucharist.” Does the following statement seem a bit off?

“The Real Presence of Jesus extends beyond Sunday Eucharist to each meal we share, when we taste deeply of the presence of those we love as well as the food that is served.”

 

[AlanFromWichita]

Confiteor:

From a seminar entitled: “Reclaiming the Power of Sunday Eucharist.” Does the following statement seem a bit off?

“The Real Presence of Jesus extends beyond Sunday Eucharist to each meal we share, when we taste deeply of the presence of those we love as well as the food that is served.”

At first it sounded like one of those typical, sappy sounding religious things that I might figure out if I thought long enough. :getholy: Then my dark side kicked in looking for off-color connotations and I thought of our former president. Then I tried to think of some things it might actually be intended to convey, such as the emphasis that we should see and feel the presence of Jesus in each other, and when we break bread together it should be an extension of the Sunday Eucharist. Then I think, awww, isn’t that sweet?

I’d better watch out. My good/bad polarization control is getting out of adjustment! :whacky:

Alan

 

[Teresa9]

"The Real Presence of Jesus extends beyond Sunday Eucharist to each meal we share, when we taste deeply of the presence of those we love as well as the food that is served."Dear friend

This statement is trying to extend the Eucharist into a mealtime setting at home?? It is at best contrived, and at worst minimising the depth of the True and Real Presence of our Lord. Holy Communion we may offer as Sacrifice as a whole and individually, but it is Communion with our Lord, NOT with each other, it is not a meal of fellowship but of Communion with our Lord. It sounds very Protestant in it’s approach.

I’d want a full explanation as to what they actually mean here and what intention they are trying to convey. If it is about love between people, I think Our Lords message extends well beyond the love shared between people who sit and eat at a table, our love is for all people whether we like them or not.

Yes this statement to me is very OFF

God Bless you and much love and peace to you

Teresa

 

[Antonio_B]

Confiteor:

From a seminar entitled: “Reclaiming the Power of Sunday Eucharist.” Does the following statement seem a bit off?

“The Real Presence of Jesus extends beyond Sunday Eucharist to each meal we share, when we taste deeply of the presence of those we love as well as the food that is served.”

I think the statement is a reflection of those Catholics who emphasize the Eucharist more as a gift of the community, rather than the emphasis on the “Real Presence” of Christ. Definitely a progressive understanding of the Eucharist.

Antonio

 

[Br.Rich_SFO]

Confiteor:

From a seminar entitled: “Reclaiming the Power of Sunday Eucharist.” Does the following statement seem a bit off?

“The Real Presence of Jesus extends beyond Sunday Eucharist to each meal we share, when we taste deeply of the presence of those we love as well as the food that is served.”

I find it very confusing. Even the use of the word “Eucharist” with it’s different meanings can lead into very poor and confused understanding.

I might say it this way:

The Real Presence of Jesus extends beyond Sunday Eucharist beyond the moment of reception of Holy Communion. The effects of Holy Communion should follow us into everyday life, to each meal we share, every action we take, when we share deeply the presence of those we love.

 

[JimG]

Br. Rich SFO:

I find it very confusing. Even the use of the word “Eucharist” with it’s different meanings can lead into very poor and confused understanding.

I might say it this way:

The Real Presence of Jesus extends beyond Sunday Eucharist beyond the moment of reception of Holy Communion. The effects of Holy Communion should follow us into everyday life, to each meal we share, every action we take, when we share deeply the presence of those we love.

Br. Rich put it much better than the original quote.

When there is already so much confusion about and disbelief in the real presence, a quote like that originally posted only confuses what needs to be clarified.

 

[Andreas_Hofer]

The problem is, the current theological climate leads me to believe that the original quote, and not Br. Rich’s theologically more accurate rewording, actually expresses the beliefs of the writer much better. Call me a pessimist, but I’ve heard way too much dissent to be liberally distributing benefit of the doubt (pun not intended).

 

[Confiteor]

I guess my thinking that the use of the "Real Presence: has a very specific meaning in Catholic theology and that many Catholics (70%) are said not to hold to this teaching. This statement seems to distort and confuse this teaching, if it is not outright heretical. Yes, we are the Body of Christ in one sense, but do we find the “Real Presence” at the local pizzeria? Even if the company is great and the pizza superb?

 

[AlanFromWichita]

Confiteor:

I guess my thinking that the use of the "Real Presence: has a very specific meaning in Catholic theology and that many Catholics (70%) are said not to hold to this teaching. This statement seems to distort and confuse this teaching, if it is not outright heretical. Yes, we are the Body of Christ in one sense, but do we find the “Real Presence” at the local pizzeria? Even if the company is great and the pizza superb?

I have heard (probably in sermons) that the Eucharist actually transforms us and makes us closer to Christ ourselves as we eat His flesh and drink His blood. To be technical, minute fragments and/or chemical extracts from the host itself I’m sure linger in our bodies long after we take Communion, as in the cliche “we become what we eat.” If Christ is present in the Eucharist, but only when the wafer is still whole and before it dissolves and is digested, then it would seem to be no more than a momentary thrill. That is unlikely, because a broken piece of a wafer is considered just as good as a “whole” round wafer. I would think then, without claiming any authority than what you make of it, that when we go to Communion we become living vessels of the Real Presence for days or weeks, at least.

Therefore I would expect that we could find the “Real Presence” at the local Pizzeria, if there are Catholics who are in Communion. You may not notice it if they have this light hidden under bushel baskets of their false selves.

Alan

 

[Jim_ov_Cov]

Christ presence in the Holy Eucharist is a substantial presence i.e. different in kind from all other forms of his presence. That is why we speak of the true presence. The above quote is dangerous and misleading.

 

[Cherub]

The statement seems to trivialize the truth of transubstantiation in the Eucharist, or to lift up human consumption of material earthly food to the level of divinity in some way. It’s misleading at best. Very protestant natured, to be sure.

I’m thankful that Pope John Paul II has declared this much needed Year of the Eucharist. Maybe this will inspire some corrections to certain liturgical abuses that seem to be taking place regarding our most Blessed Sacrament, and will help to properly catechize Catholics who either never heard or didn’t learn the truth of this matter.