Is this gluttony?

[catholicgirl201]

Is eating too quickly gluttonous?

 

[Robert_Sock]

No, I do not think so.

 

[EmeraldWings]

Yes actually, eating to hastily is, but it depends on your reason,
but it’s not a mortal sin, just a venial,
and if the reason is that you’re eating fast because you have a short lunch break or something, then that is not gluttony, although i wouldn’t recommend that still because eating to fast can cause weight gain.

but to give you an example of how it would be a sin, i know someone who eats rather fast, with no good reason, he just inhales his food and gobbles it down in a kind of unappetizing manner(kinda gross really), he’s not fat, but just in this habit, and it’s gluttonous because it’s both unhealthy for you and unpleasant to watch.
it’s unhealthy because you have to keep in mind, digestion starts in the mouth, we should chew our food well, and you can just talk to your doctor about that because i’m not the best at explaining those kinds of things.

but i can’t tell you exactly, since it also just depends on the circumstance, and again, it would still only be venial.

so i hope this helps, take care.

 

[ANNE_2]

Free Will is a gift from God.
Who are we to question what God has made ? Without free will we could not choose to be with God for eternity.

CCC - " 1711 Endowed with a spiritual soul, with intellect and with free will, the human person is from his very conception ordered to God and destined for eternal beatitude. He pursues his perfection in "seeking and loving what is true and good " (GS 15 § 2).

CCC - " 1704 The human person participates in the light and power of the divine Spirit. By his reason, he is capable of understanding the order of things established by the Creator. By free will, he is capable of directing himself toward his true good. He finds his perfection "in seeking and loving what is true and good. "

CCC - " 1731 Freedom is the power, rooted in reason and will, to act or not to act, to do this or that, and so to perform deliberate actions on one’s own responsibility.
By free will one shapes one’s own life.
Human freedom is a force for growth and maturity in truth and goodness; it attains its perfection when directed toward God, our beatitude. "

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

Yes actually, eating to hastily is, but it depends on your reason,
but it’s not a mortal sin, just a venial,

CCC source please? If there’s none, I’d refrain from making statements like this.

 

[beth40n2]

CCC source please? If there’s none, I’d refrain from making statements like this.

2535 The sensitive appetite leads us to desire pleasant things we do not have, e.g., the desire to eat when we are hungry or to warm ourselves when we are cold. These desires are good in themselves; but often they exceed the limits of reason and drive us to covet unjustly what is not ours and belongs to another or is owed to him.

Baltimore Catechism No. 3 - Lesson 6
Q. 304. What is gluttony?

A. Gluttony is an excessive desire for food or drink.

Q. 305. What kind of a sin is drunkenness?

A. Drunkenness is a sin of gluttony by which a person deprives himself of the use of his reason by the excessive taking of intoxicating drink.

Q. 306. Is drunkenness always a mortal sin?

A. Deliberate drunkenness is always a mortal sin if the person be completely deprived of the use of reason by it, but drunkenness that is not intended or desired may be excused from mortal sin.

Q. 307. What are the chief effects of habitual drunkenness?

A. Habitual drunkenness injures the body, weakens the mind, leads its victim into many vices and exposes him to the danger of dying in a state of mortal sin.

Q. 308. What three sins seem to cause most evil in the world?

A. Drunkenness, dishonesty and impurity seem to cause most evil in the world, and they are therefore to be carefully avoided at all times.

There is quite a bit on newadvent.org/cathen/06590a.htm pretty technical.
five ways which are set forth in the scholastic verse: “Prae-propere, laute, nimis, ardenter, studiose” or, according to the apt rendering of Father Joseph Rickably: too soon, too expensively, too much, too eagerly, too daintily. Clearly one who uses food or drink in such a way as to injure his health or impair the mental equipment needed for the discharge of his duties, is guilty of the sin of gluttony. It is incontrovertible that to eat or drink for the mere pleasure of the experience, and for that exclusively, is likewise to commit the sin of gluttony.

I hope some of this helps.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

It is incontrovertible that to eat or drink for the mere pleasure of the experience, and for that exclusively, is likewise to commit the sin of gluttony.

I only see one actual citation from the CCC (a.k.a. the Big Catholic Handbook) and I fail to see how it mentions fast eating. I see a warning against greed but not against fast eating.

P.S.

This thread isn’t about alcohol but fast eating.

 

[EmeraldWings]

CCC source please? If there’s none, I’d refrain from making statements like this.

i’m not sure i’ve read it in any catechism, but i’ve read it in other catholic literature, such as saint Thomas Aquinas, who says gluttony may happen in 5 ways - “too soon, too expensively, too much, too eagerly, too daintily.”
too eagerly is the manner i am referring to, and it’s not something i would have thought of before, it really didn’t seem like something that would fall under gluttony before i read about it, but after what(little bit) i read and heard, it makes sense.
now of course, as saint Thomas Aquinas says, gluttony is generally a venial sin, especially in this case(as i said earlier) and is only mortal in such cases, as we read in the bible (Philippians 3:19) when you make your belly your god, and also when you would greatly damage your health by what or the way you eat, or if it causes some other serious damage to you or your neighbor.

but like i said before, it’s circumstantial, it depends on why you’re doing it, and to what degree, and can be a small sin, or not a sin at all, it just depends.
or to explain it another way, the way my old priest explained it was - to eat to quickly is considered gluttonous because it is unrestrained.

i don’t mean to make this complicated, and i don’t want to make a big deal of it, but i hope this explains it well enough,
so i hope this helps, take care.

 

[WesleyF]

Is eating too quickly gluttonous?

When I read the title of the thread, my first reaction was - “Obviously!” . But in your case, it’s not gluttony, it’s just a very unhealthy way of eating. Chew your food before you swallow.

 

[freerf]

i’m not sure i’ve read it in any catechism, but i’ve read it in other catholic literature, such as saint Thomas Aquinas, who says gluttony may happen in 5 ways - “too soon, too expensively, too much, too eagerly, too daintily.”
too eagerly is the manner i am referring to, and it’s not something i would have thought of before, it really didn’t seem like something that would fall under gluttony before i read about it, but after what(little bit) i read and heard, it makes sense.
now of course, as saint Thomas Aquinas says, gluttony is generally a venial sin, especially in this case(as i said earlier) and is only mortal in such cases, as we read in the bible (Philippians 3:19) when you make your belly your god, and also when you would greatly damage your health by what or the way you eat, or if it causes some other serious damage to you or your neighbor.

but like i said before, it’s circumstantial, it depends on why you’re doing it, and to what degree, and can be a small sin, or not a sin at all, it just depends.
or to explain it another way, the way my old priest explained it was - to eat to quickly is considered gluttonous because it is unrestrained.

i don’t mean to make this complicated, and i don’t want to make a big deal of it, but i hope this explains it well enough,
so i hope this helps, take care.

I also don’t see any CCC source. The only posts shown here were not applicable to the question.

 

[EmeraldWings]

I also don’t see any CCC source. The only posts shown here were not applicable to the question.

just as the bible is not our sole source of knowledge, neither is the CCC, these answers are more philosophical than doctrinal, and i’ve heard this explanation on more than one occasion, firstly, as i’ve already listed, saint Thomas Aquinas, and likewise from my own priest, and if you’ve ever seen his sermons online, Fr. Kenneth Dean has an excellent sermon on gluttony which also points out eating hastily.
but again…it’s only venial, and by “to hastily” i think they mean, for example, someone who will eat a whole meal in just a few minutes, or someone who will eat a hotdog or hamburger in 2 bites…so like i said, it’s circumstantial, and you can find this if you look in other catholic literature which doesn’t *just *give the general explanations like the CCC, but goes into the more minute details, such as Fulton J. Sheen does.

 

[Lost_Wanderer]

i think they mean, for example, someone who will eat a whole meal in just a few minutes, or someone who will eat a hotdog or hamburger in 2 bites…so like i said, it’s circumstantial, and you can find this if you look in other catholic literature which doesn’t *just *give the general explanations like the CCC, but goes into the more minute details, such as Fulton J. Sheen does.

I am rather disturbed that you all see that as more of a bad habit. Ever thought that might actually be a talent and skill? I’m not talking about people who force themselves to eat fast. I’m talking about people whose bodies actually develop a natural way of biting, chewing, and swallowing their food in a matter of minutes.

I’m one such person.

People are often surprised at how fast I eat. One moment, they see me at the dining table. Less than five minutes later, they see my plate as the first in the sink and me somewhere else. Some people, like you, think it’s a bad habit but frankly, that’s just who I am. I’m a naturally fast gobbler. Maybe I have a strong esophagus, have fast moving jaws, or a strange saliva that makes food quickly lose its flavor the longer its in my trap. I don’t know. I don’t really brag about it. Fast eating just comes naturally to me.

 

[MissRose73]

Some people do eat faster than others. That is normal.

I could place a plate of food in front of me and one of my friends. Most of the time, I eat at a medium speed unless I am very hungry or not feeling well. My friend could eat everything off their own plate, and be done long before I finish the same amount of food.

I am sure some people would call my mother a glutton. One time, she ate a large sandwich with some french fries at a restaurant, and still managed to help her brother in law at a family dinner finish a very large dessert. You would think she would be a larger woman because she can get eat a lot from time to time, but she is not. Most of the time she does not eat that much food at one sitting anyways.

 

[freerf]

yes, this is quite obviously a cultural issue.

I can see no overarching moral principals that would universally qualify eating quickly as a sin, venial or not. (Although, there may be one, it’s just that no one has yet to demonstrate that)