Is this insulting to the Eucharist [photo]

[OddBird]

I was responding to a comment of yours which I thought was about the dignity of such a vessel for consecrated hosts (you said it was silly and ridiculous, and wouldn’t help grow in respect for the Eucharist).

That’s why I pointed out that Catholics didn’t use it for consecrated hosts.

My apologies if I misunderstood what you meant !

 

[C.Ray]

Well Gold = fancy, doesn’t it!

 

[BlueMaxx]

Jesus from a Pez dispenser? Just wrong.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene

That was my first thought to…

 

[Gorgias]

if that machine is being used to prevent the spread of the Corona virus, its insulting to God.

Umm… how? Is God insulted when we don’t catch a virus?

I can’t remember the official terms but Catholics believe bread and wine miraculously become the body and blood of Christ, yet the miracle isn’t enough to prevent the spread of a virus. Especially if the Priest is cleaning everyone is cleaning their hands… don’t you think that’s a little insulting?

No, because you’re misunderstanding the Eucharist. It’s not magic. It would be superstitious to assign to the Eucharist some sort of magic physical power that the Church doesn’t teach that it possesses. So: even though it’s the Eucharist, it still contains the accidents of bread (among them, gluten), and can make celiacs sick. Even though it’s the Precious Blood, it still contains the accidents of wine (among them, alcohol), and is not good for alcoholics and those with particular digestive ailments to consume. Since there are physical elements present, those physical elements interact with the physical world normally. And so, viruses can be present on them, and can infect people. That’s not “insulting”; it’s “the way physical entities work.”

I think its a sad day, when my Priest can not present me with the body and blood of Christ because of man’s fear.

There’s a difference between “fear” and “prudence”.

Would you put Jesus in a plastic tube machine?

If the Church approved of it? Yep.

And before anyone says that we put Him in a chalice, He put Himself there.

Great! So, then, we’ll put the unconsecrated hosts in the tube, and then Jesus will put Himself there…!

Obviously no Catholic church will use this to distribute consecrated hosts.

If you could properly purify it… why not?

Jesus from a Pez dispenser? Just wrong.

Nice red herring.

You might want to check out how communion was given to folks during the time of the Plague. It might surprise you.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

If you could properly purify it… why not?

I thought Eucharist was only permitted to be distributed with hands, straw, or spoon. Isn’t there some rule about that?

 

[Victoria33]

Stats indicate there were many deaths among the clergy in Italy during the pandemic. (Btw, I don’t mean to say this as if it is past tense, the pandemic continues).

Everyone has their own view. I see nothing wrong with being cautious.

If it were a vote, I’d vote there is nothing wrong with this machine.

 

[Nicene]

Your assumption is false: you are assuming I was replying to you in the first place when I was making a statement regarding the OP.

Thanks for the inappropriate admonition, I guess, when I wasn’t even replying to your post.

Peace and God Bless
Nicene

 

[LeonardoArruda]

ating around various Facebook groups I’m in and I’m not sure of I should defend the Eucharist for this kind of flippancy, or of it’s even truly that inappropriate to begin

If this is not an dark humor joke is a blaspheme, this cannot be allowed

 

[Gorgias]

I thought Eucharist was only permitted to be distributed with hands, straw, or spoon. Isn’t there some rule about that?

Not that I’ve ever run across…

Your assumption is false: you are assuming I was replying to you in the first place

Umm… you realize that you literally were replying to me, right?

Just to refresh your memory:

Gorgias:

OK… I’ll play devil’s advocate: what’s insulting about it?

Jesus from a Pez dispenser? Just wrong.

So… yeah. You were replying to me. So I replied back!

Thanks for the inappropriate admonition, I guess, when I wasn’t even replying to your post.

You’re welcome, I guess?

Blessings,
G.

 

[Victoria33]

Coronavirus in Italy: 50 priests have died

It’s about saving lives.

I could say having Mass in the parking lot is inappropriate.

This is just one more safety precaution and it isn’t just in church, it has been all over.

Libraries here gave not even been opened up.

I see no controversy myself.

Hopefully, things can get back to normal some day.

 

[Nicene]

In fact I wasn’t. I hadn’t even read your post, sorry to burst your bubble. Unless of course you are claiming to be the OP?

Peace and God Bless
Nicene

 

[Gorgias]

I hadn’t even read your post, sorry to burst your bubble.

LOL!

Somehow, you responded directly to my post, though. Guess that’s what made me think that you were … responding to my post, then!

 

[Wesrock]

I don’t think it should be standard but I don’t think it is insulting in grave situations.

 

[Sarcelle]

I’m getting the impression that maybe some who have never attended a small church are not familiar with the process of each Mass attendee putting one unconsecrated host on the plate as they walk into church.

I used to attend a very large church and even in that church, everyday masses didn’t have much attendees so the mass was held in a smaller side chapel. This dispenser was used to prevent contamination from different human hands when parishioners would pick an unconsecrated host for consecration later on. This was especially handy during flu season.

 

[Agnus-Dei]

I have to admit I had an actual LOL moment with this.
Am I the only person old enough here reminded of those cheap spring guns that shot out the little disk things?
COTT, yup, open up we’re keeping distance on this one. Don’t move!
Dominus vobiscum
If this were mounted say on a wall, with a “wave hand to activate”, dropping an unconsecrated host into a dish. I can see it working.

 

[Pitcairn17]

I cannot believe the number of folks affected by high blood pressure over this. Right at the top of the original picture it says “EPISCOPALIAN.” Not all liturgical supply catalogs are aimed at Catholic Churches only. There is no evidence, no suggestion, no quote, no hint that anyone is proposing this for Catholic use, COVID or otherwise. Quite honestly, I know observant Episcopalians who I think would also find this bizarre and inappropriate. But that’s a separate issue. Not everything is a conspiracy to commit sacrilege against the Eucharist.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

There is no evidence, no suggestion, no quote, no hint that anyone is proposing this for Catholic use, COVID or otherwise.

There are other news articles discussing its use by some Catholic churches for unconsecrated hosts, and the inventor being interviewed discussing creating a precious metal version for Catholic use.
A Google news search brings them up.

 

[annad347]

(you said it was silly and ridiculous, and wouldn’t help grow in respect for the Eucharist).

No need to apologies, I did say that, I do think looks silly and ridiculous… but I did understood what @Tis_Bearself said. I still think it looks silly, though.

Umm… how? Is God insulted when we don’t catch a virus?

You are right, I think God would want us to do every thing necessary to be safe. So, if that dispenser is being used to help lower the spread Corona or any other virus, it might be exactly what God want for us to use. To protect His children, who am I to say otherwise.

Maybe, I think the insult is more towards trusting the blessing of the Eucharist, that’s just my opinion.

No, because you’re misunderstanding the Eucharist. It’s not magic.

I know the difference between a blessing and magic.

There’s a difference between “fear” and “prudence”

There’s also a difference between “faith” and “prudence”

I don’t think I ever said you couldn’t get the virus from the Eucharist. I only said its a sad day when I have to fear getting a virus from the Eucharist, because its given to me by the hand of my priest… again just my opinion.

 

[Gorgias]

Maybe, I think the insult is more towards trusting the blessing of the Eucharist, that’s just my opinion.

Except that the Eucharist isn’t meant to create or protect physical health.

I know the difference between a blessing and magic.

What kind of physical ‘blessing’ do you think the Eucharist brings?

I only said its a sad day when I have to fear getting a virus from the Eucharist, because its given to me by the hand of my priest…

No different than fearing that you’ll get it from the bag at the grocery store, because it’s given to you by the hand of a clerk. No difference there.

 

[annad347]

@Gorgias, are you purposely misunderstanding what I mean by the Eucharist is a blessing from God?

No different than fearing that you’ll get it from the bag at the grocery store, because it’s given to you by the hand of a clerk. No difference there.

Exactly… it is a sad day when I have to fear taking a bag from the person in the grocery store because of a virus.

Its a sad day when I can’t show the people I take care of at the airport a real smile because of the fear of catching a virus.

Its a sad day when I can’t give someone I just meet a hand shake in greeting because of fear of getting a virus.

Its a sad day when children can’t play with each other in the park because of fear of getting a virus.

and its not fears we’ve had before, there was always the chance of catching something from someone, it just we are more aware of how easy it is to catch a virus from someone and how some are more fatal then others… and I think it’s sad.