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Alcohol tends to make fundraisers more profitable.
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Where I am from, if a minor is caught drinking, the parents are fined.
However, everyone looks the other way when it is the parents giving alcohol to their children.
We are very big on wine here, and it seems to be “acceptable” for parents to introduce wine to their 16 year olds, during special occasions (such as Christmas). Probably because for years and years and years, official drinking age was 16 here, until Europe came in and said that was way too young.
For the OP, alcohol is one of the privileges of being and adult
, in moderation of course, everything in moderation.
However, everyone looks the other way when it is the parents giving alcohol to their children.
We are very big on wine here, and it seems to be “acceptable” for parents to introduce wine to their 16 year olds, during special occasions (such as Christmas). Probably because for years and years and years, official drinking age was 16 here, until Europe came in and said that was way too young.
For the OP, alcohol is one of the privileges of being and adult
, in moderation of course, everything in moderation.
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KateriCatholic
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Okay, I thought you might have misinterpreted my point. I wasn’t offended or anything, and I didn’t think you were being confrontational. The forums are made for discussion. 
I was not saying that drinking itself was inherently wrong or anything. As you said, it is neutral.
I was not saying that drinking itself was inherently wrong or anything. As you said, it is neutral.
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shainski
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I’ve never been much of a drinker - but I have had wine or a mixed drink on occasion. I don’t feel that using alcohol, in itself, is a sin. However, we all have things that challenge us more than they challenge others. For some (perhaps many), alcohol can be a problem. If it negatively changes your behavior, if you can’t control your consumption, or if it interferes with your life - then it can be a catalyst for sin in your life. You have given no indication that the person you observed has given you any reason to be concerned.
But the specifics of your question seems to be if drinking a mixed drink (alcohol mixed with soda) is any better than having a beer. There is probably no difference between a mixed drink, a can of beer, or a glass of wine. The alcohol content is approximately the same. (assuming that we are talking about standard size glasses, cans, and a mixed drink made with one shot of alcohol)
But the specifics of your question seems to be if drinking a mixed drink (alcohol mixed with soda) is any better than having a beer. There is probably no difference between a mixed drink, a can of beer, or a glass of wine. The alcohol content is approximately the same. (assuming that we are talking about standard size glasses, cans, and a mixed drink made with one shot of alcohol)
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I’ve always been amused by Aquinas’ answer to that question. He says that refraining from alcohol is a sin if it goes so far as to “molest nature grievously.”
I mean… how much alcohol do I have to not drink to reach that standard? It seems like an impossible sin.
Maybe if I’m starving myself to death in order to refuse beer which is the only available source of calories?
I mean… how much alcohol do I have to not drink to reach that standard? It seems like an impossible sin.
Maybe if I’m starving myself to death in order to refuse beer which is the only available source of calories?
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BoomBoomMancini
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I’m confused on why you were worried.
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Chicken_Pigeon
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How is drinking alcohol virtuous? You’re joking right
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dochawk
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Few things are as bad as drinking a can.
The jagged edges of metal are likely to shred your stomach and intestines . . .
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Francis
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Well, a cup of suffering! ,our daily bread
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@Thecatholicguy
CCC [2288] Life and physical health are precious gifts entrusted to us by God. We must take reasonable care of them, taking into account the needs of others and the common good.
CCC [2290] The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess : the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.
**[2223] Parents have the first responsibility for the education of their children. They bear witness to this responsibility first by creating a home where tenderness, forgiveness, respect, fidelity, and disinterested service are the rule. The home is well suited for education in the virtues . This requires an apprenticeship in self-denial, sound judgment, and self-mastery - the preconditions of all true freedom. Parents should teach their children to subordinate the "material and instinctual dimensions to interior and spiritual ones."31 Parents have a grave responsibility to give good example to their children. By knowing how to acknowledge their own failings to their children, parents will be better able to guide and correct them:
WE should temperance
1 Peter 4:3 You have already spent enough time in doing what the Gentiles like to do, living in licentiousness, passions, drunkenness, revels, carousing, and lawless idolatry.
Jeremiah 13:12 You shall speak to them this word: Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: Every wine-jar should be filled with wine. And they will say to you, “Do you think we do not know that every wine-jar should be filled with wine?” 13 Then you shall say to them: Thus says the Lord: I am about to fill all the inhabitants of this land—the kings who sit on David’s throne, the priests, the prophets, and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem—with drunkenness. 14 And I will dash them one against another, parents and children together, says the Lord. I will not pity or spare or have compassion when I destroy them.
This is definitely wrong,and a kind of scandal, for encouraging a minor to drink, thought it was diluted ,really a bad example,which should be avoided.
CCC [2288] Life and physical health are precious gifts entrusted to us by God. We must take reasonable care of them, taking into account the needs of others and the common good.
CCC [2290] The virtue of temperance disposes us to avoid every kind of excess : the abuse of food, alcohol, tobacco, or medicine. Those incur grave guilt who, by drunkenness or a love of speed, endanger their own and others’ safety on the road, at sea, or in the air.
**[2223] Parents have the first responsibility for the education of their children. They bear witness to this responsibility first by creating a home where tenderness, forgiveness, respect, fidelity, and disinterested service are the rule. The home is well suited for education in the virtues . This requires an apprenticeship in self-denial, sound judgment, and self-mastery - the preconditions of all true freedom. Parents should teach their children to subordinate the "material and instinctual dimensions to interior and spiritual ones."31 Parents have a grave responsibility to give good example to their children. By knowing how to acknowledge their own failings to their children, parents will be better able to guide and correct them:
WE should temperance
1 Peter 4:3 You have already spent enough time in doing what the Gentiles like to do, living in licentiousness, passions, drunkenness, revels, carousing, and lawless idolatry.
Jeremiah 13:12 You shall speak to them this word: Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: Every wine-jar should be filled with wine. And they will say to you, “Do you think we do not know that every wine-jar should be filled with wine?” 13 Then you shall say to them: Thus says the Lord: I am about to fill all the inhabitants of this land—the kings who sit on David’s throne, the priests, the prophets, and all the inhabitants of Jerusalem—with drunkenness. 14 And I will dash them one against another, parents and children together, says the Lord. I will not pity or spare or have compassion when I destroy them.
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