Is this marriage a block to sacrament?

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Friends, I’m hoping you can help me with some general advice and feedback.

I’ve been going through the RCIA and my journey has been watched by an older cousin, who started to come to church with me. She had been enjoying it and seemed to be gaining a lot of peace and hope from both the Mass and the general feeling of strength that comes from it. Everything was going fine, and I thought she might eventually look at the RCIA herself, but something someone said in passing about divorce and coverting to Catholicism has put her off, and she has made excuses not to come to church for the past three weeks.

When I asked her about it, basically she said that she thinks because of her past, that she will never be accepted fully into the church (for sacraments etc) and so there is no point in her attending. I hate to see her so disappointed, and I think things are not so cut and dried as she thinks they are. This is something I’ve not had to think about because I have never been married, and so I’m hoping the deep well of knowledge here might offer some hope for her. I’ve offered to speak to my priest but she refused to allow me to do that because now, after the comments she heard, she feels rather ashamed for some reason, as though she’s not worthy to even want to be part of the chuch. I cannot even begin to describe to you the disappointment I sense in her.

Apologies here, but a brief background is necessary. Now in her mid-50s, she was married for 20 years to a man who was an alcoholic. She left the marriage to save her sanity and keep a roof over her head as the home was about to be repossessed thanks to her ex drinking all the money away, not enough income, etc. There were no children and this seemed to be a fertility problem rather than deliberate choice, because I remember when I was much younger she said she would rather have liked to have had a child “but it was not to be” as she put it.

This was her only marriage and she has rarely dated since divorcing 15 years ago, basically her bad experiences kinda put her off the idea of men, dating, marriage, the whole 9 yards, etc. Neither she nor her ex were baptised into any faith, (she and I come from a family that is rather anti-religion, and her ex came from a family of athiests). They were married in a registry office and the marriage dissolved the usual way in a court. She has not heard from her ex-husband since the divorce, and has no idea even if he is still alive because she moved right away from him to start afresh in a safer life.

I’ve looked at various threads here and my general impression is that this is not as dark a situation as she believes it is. I’ve read about some quite complicated examples here, of marriage tangles which seem to come right in the end, even if it takes some time to resolve via the necessary canon law.

I know it’s hard to give a hard-and-fast answer, but in general, am I right in thinking this marriage issue could be resolved so that she could go through RCIA and be accepted fully and completely into the church, complete with sacraments, etc?
 
Apologies here, but a brief background is necessary. Now in her mid-50s, she was married for 20 years to a man who was an alcoholic. She left the marriage to save her sanity and keep a roof over her head as the home was about to be repossessed thanks to her ex drinking all the money away, not enough income, etc. There were no children and this seemed to be a fertility problem rather than deliberate choice, because I remember when I was much younger she said she would rather have liked to have had a child “but it was not to be” as she put it.

This was her only marriage and she has rarely dated since divorcing 15 years ago, basically her bad experiences kinda put her off the idea of men, dating, marriage, the whole 9 yards, etc. Neither she nor her ex were baptised into any faith, (she and I come from a family that is rather anti-religion, and her ex came from a family of athiests). They were married in a registry office and the marriage dissolved the usual way in a court. She has not heard from her ex-husband since the divorce, and has no idea even if he is still alive because she moved right away from him to start afresh in a safer life.

I’ve looked at various threads here and my general impression is that this is not as dark a situation as she believes it is. I’ve read about some quite complicated examples here, of marriage tangles which seem to come right in the end, even if it takes some time to resolve via the necessary canon law.

I know it’s hard to give a hard-and-fast answer, but in general, am I right in thinking this marriage issue could be resolved so that she could go through RCIA and be accepted fully and completely into the church, complete with sacraments, etc?
The Church recognizes that, sadly, sometimes divorce is the only option to protect yourself and her case would definitely fall in that category. Since she is not remarried, her divorce is not an obstacle to becoming Catholic and receiving all the sacraments.

On the other hand, the Church still considers her validly married so she would have to live that way: no dating, no remarriage. She could petition for a decree of nullity (an annulment) if she wishes to know if she is free to date and remarry.
 
Sadly there is so much residue from bad catechesis (religious education) in the Catholic Church, that you can easily get very bad information from quite a few people. Your cousin has received incorrect information.

There is no impediment to her coming into the Church and receiving all the sacraments. If she were to want to start dating or marry another, she would have to petition for a declaration of nullity of her first marriage. As you mentioned about neither being baptized nor of a particular religion, this may help in showing that they did not understand the fullness of what a Catholic marriage is, and could help in a declaration of nullity.

Tell her to come back, she is ALWAYS welcome and ALWAYS wanted.

And also tell her (and for you as well), if you hear something that troubles you, don’t sit on it or assume it is correct. Take it to your RCIA director, or your pastor to discuss it. It could be wrong, it could be a misunderstanding, or it could be a misapplication of a Church teaching.
 
Please tell your cousin to come back - she will not be free to remarry without a decree of nullity but from the sounds of it that does not sound like a high priority. The anullment process can be very healing as well. The Sacraments are also healing. God bless you for evangelizing.
 
It might help to remind your cousin that everyone in the Church has pasts too – maybe not all as dramatic as hers, but all wounding in their own way. We aren’t in the Church because we’re squeaky clean ourselves, you know, but because we’re trying to let the grace of Christ heal us, and soften our hearts to God. None of us have finished the process yet.

It sounds like she went through a very painful experience in her divorce; that makes her eminently qualified to know Christ, the man of sorrows.

As mentioned in a few of the above comments, she should find out whether her first marriage was valid in the Church’s eyes before pursuing other relationships (i.e. find out if it can be annulled); but that process won’t affect whether she is “suitable” for the Church. If she’s not “suitable” then neither was Mary Magdalene, or Saul of Tarsus, or Augustine of Hippo – all saints now.
 
I know it’s hard to give a hard-and-fast answer, but in general, am I right in thinking this marriage issue could be resolved so that she could go through RCIA and be accepted fully and completely into the church, complete with sacraments, etc?
She doesn’t have a “marriage issue.” She is living as a single person. There is no impediment to receiving the Sacraments and becoming a Catholic.

Should she want to marry again in the future (which sounds unlikely), yes she would have to approach the Church regarding her marriage. She could pursue a decree of nullity, or possibly apply for dissolution of the bond under the Pauline or Petrine Privilege. She should talk to a priest.

I don’t know what someone said, but hopefully she will realize that we are all sinners, sometimes uncharitable, and sometimes just plain wrong. I hope she will forgive them for their hurtful statement and not let it stand between her and Jesus in the Eucharist.
 
Jesus,our Lords peace be with You.
My friend,what she has done before converting seldom affect what status she might have in the Church. If she wos not a catholic when married,nor divorced,there is no problem.
 
Jesus,our Lords peace be with You.
My friend,what she has done before converting seldom affect what status she might have in the Church. If she wos not a catholic when married,nor divorced,there is no problem.
That is not true- all marriages are presumed valid unless there is a reason to have that validity challenged. Marriage is one of the Sacraments or Covenants for non-Christian religions that we share - also even a marriage between two non-baptized persons can be considered valid as a natural marriage. If for instance someone had remarried- it would be an impediment to entering to the Church as they would be in a polygamous state without a decree of nullity and therefore unable to receive the Eucharist.
 
Thank you for seeking help for your cousin. I’m glad you care so much. She sounds like a good and humble woman. Not only would she be welcome in the Church (and an asset, I suspect) but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if ultimately her marriage could be annulled.

Since she is reluctant to let you speak to your priest about her, I am guessing she would also not go to him herself. It sounds like this reluctance is the only thing blocking her for now. Remind her that, while her ability to realize her imperfections is good, Satan can and would use that to keep her from the Church.
 
Everyone, thank you so much for your thoughts, knowledge, opinions and encouragement! This is such good news, I could just cry.

She has had, at times, such a lonely life and I was so pleased when she came along with me to church. It really pained me to see her scared away. I actually don’t know exactly what was said to her, or who said it, just that it left her with the idea that because she was divorced, she was barred from taking sacraments. As I said, it didn’t come to light until I asked her why she suddenly didn’t want to come with me anymore to Mass, and I was not knowledgeable enough to offer her any reassurance.

Now I can offer some reassurance that there is nothing unacceptable either about her past or her current divorced status to block her from being fully accepted into the church. If I am reading your replies correctly, it is what she does with her life now and her journey into the sanctuary of the church that really matters.

Thanks so much everyone. :grouphug:
 
And just so you have more behind you here are a couple videos that you may want to watch with her that are extremely helpful:

Catholic Divorce and Remarriage

Who Can Receive Communion? Father Joe Knows Best
Thank you! 🙂

I’ll save the first one for a bit later because it’s quite complex and I don’t want to make her think this is more complicated than it really is, but the Father Joe one is very straight to the point and clear.

I’m also going print out some of the replies from this thread so she can see it’s a cross-section of Catholics giving their common understanding of this situation.

Taking things slowly though; I’ve no wish to pressure her. I think she has to come back in her own time and in good heart, and wanting to find again the peace she was getting before all this happened.
 
Would just like to say that my cousin came to Mass with me today. It was her first time since this all began.

I just wanted to say thanks again for all the good information, it certainly helped. 👍

I’m hoping to gently suggest that she has a chat with my priest sometime soon, so that this wrong idea can be laid to rest once and for all. But until then, at least she is attending and that is wonderful.😃
 
Thank you for the update. You’ve left a grin on my face. I think your game plan is a good one; assuming she continues to attend Mass, developing trust in your priest will be helpful for her before she talks to him.
 
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