Is this normal? A first for me

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No this has happened about 5 times in the last 2 months or so. Last night our son was fine but apparently got up to get some water (in the dark) and got very scared. That’s why he started crying and yelling. I didn’t hear the first cry (different level of the house) and then I was awoken to my husband screaming at the top of his lungs in response …, so I was just so startled.
Didn’t you all recently move? We live in a place which is completely dark at night in some places and so all our children had flashlights in reach of their beds. Maybe you could wak around the house with him at night with all the lights out and point out what causes some of the shadows.

Also, use Holy Water from your church rather than just fragrance water, and I second teaching him about his Guardian Angel! He should alsonlearn to listen to his GA, who will try to help him when he’s being tempted.
 
I listened to a noted family therapist once. He remarked that it was amazing how a child’s problems went away when he was able to get the parents into therapy. He would see the child first, maybe once then bring in the parents. Soon he would work with the parents without the child. He said once the parents were “whole” again, the child would return to the happy child they once had.

Perhaps it is family therapy that is needed?

I’ll pray for you and your family.

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Alot of kids and even adults are afraid of the dark…maybe he would feel more comfortable with a nightlight in his room…so it gently illuminates his room enough for him to see no shadows and he can see nobody is there.
 
The Girl Who Grew Up Frightened.

I know of a person who, as a small child, was terrified to be alone at night. She could not sleep because she thought the devil would come up through the floor and grab her. This child used to sleep with her grandma. Before that, she slept in a crib in her parent’s bedroom.

Her father came back from the military and insisted that she sleep in her own bed. The child kept getting up and coming into her parent’s room. Each time she did that, her father gave her a sound spanking.

This girl grew up fearful and insecure. Funny how some notion, like the devil coming up through the floor, could frighten a kid who is around four years old. I don’t know where she got that idea, but there it was.
 
I suggest a night light, and a little empathy therapy for dad.
 
My daughter has anxiety. She is a child who is easily upset, but when her Dad and I separated things got very difficult for her. She was in first grade at the time. She was constantly worried about bad men coming and ghosts in our house. At night she would wake up thinking there were snakes in her bed, etc… Eventually it got to the point where I had to be in the same room with her at all times…night and day.

If this continues, then yes I would seek help from a therapist. We did that and it helped her to deal with her feelings. Another thing that helps my daughter is praying. At night, she has certain prayers she says, and then I conclude by making the sign of the cross on her forehead and asking our Lord to send angels to watch over her, his mother to comfort her, and to post St. Michael at the door. At times when things were worse, I would give her a blessing with Holy Water or oil, which she especially likes. She still has anxiety, and this impacts her in other ways. But, the fears of unseen things and night waking hardly ever happen now. If I forget the blessing, she will ask for it. She is 10 now.

With the prayer, my daughter got much better. But sometimes I wondered if she was really seeing/experiencing things to which I was totally blind. I spoke to my priest about and he recommended I read a book called Unbound, by Neal Lozano. It is a book about deliverance, and he recommended it for me…not my daughter. It gave me a much better understanding of how the evil one messes with our minds, and I became aware of how some things from my childhood had impacted my adult relationships, etc. Strangely, one night I woke in the middle of the night, tormented by feelings of despair. I got up and went into the bathroom. I was crying…something I rarely do. I began praying and going through the process described in Lozano’s book, which involved renouncing despair in the name of Jesus. I felt relief, went back to bed, and fell asleep. Less than an hour later, my daughter woke up screaming and saying there was someone in the house. I suppose it could have been a coincidence, but at this point, we had gone for a very long period of no waking. It had been months.

So yes I do believe that children are impacted by things we adults cannot see. So if there is negativity or anger or whatever in your house, then I would encourage you to do what you can to address that for the sake of your son. And, if I were you, I would encourage my husband to try a calming approach with your son or wake you up to deal with it if he is unable to do that.
 
Children have nightmares. it would be wise to see what your child is exposed to during the day. Pressure from school, friends, and also movies and things can cause them.

Sometimes, when a parent has a different core personality than one of their children, it is easy to assume that the child needs therapy. Different does not mean odd. You may want to gently suggest this to your husband, so he more understanding.

If the nightmares continue, the first thing would be a visit to a pediatrician, and see what they say.

We have always told our children that monsters are afraid of Mary, and when the have a bad dream, say a Hail Mary. Then come get mommy. (Daddy usually sleeps very deeply.)

I hope this helps-
 
You wanted him to wait until the family wasn’t having issues?
I have no idea what you meant by this in response to what I said. What I said is that the boy is having a continuing issue, the issue is occurring at the same time as marital issues, and the father is reacting in an inappropriate way. What part of that indicated that I wanted anyone to wait?
Seriously, sometimes when someone with psychological issues has an upset stomach, it was only that the potato salad was left out too long. Families with atypical issues do not get a pass on typical issues.

This was a bad dream, not a suspicious lump. I would treat it like one of those things that bear watching, but nothing more. There is enough worry in that household.
You seem to be entirely missing the point. *** It is not A bad dream. It’s a continuing issue, with a father reacting in an inappropriate way.***
My husband and I have our issues and I have even considered divorce… my husband screaming “WHAT DO YOU WANT?!” …{describes bad dream}
(This is about the 5th time this happened in the last 2 months).
The boy is consistently having bad dreams in the midst of marital issues and the father reacting inappropriately. I’ve been in a similar type situation. The kid doesn’t need to be ignored. He’s asking for help as best as he knows how. Get it for him.

I think you need to re-read the original post more carefully.

Moreover, I don’t think the boy has psychological issues. I think the boy is having a normal reaction to the situation around him, and that the situation needs to change, NOT the boy. The boy may need some assistance in dealing with the situation.

Please tell me Easterjoy, at what time is it appropriate for a father to respond to a frightened child by yelling at him? At what point is it appropriate for a father to imply to/tell a frightened child that he is mentally sick? And the actions described are not that this is a one time thing by the father, but a consistent behavior.

The boy is expressing his feelings and fears, and the father is telling the boy that those feelings are invalid, and that the boy is sick for having them.

From my perspective, the child is being abused. This needs to be addressed. NOW.
 
Parents have issues, and children pay the price. The most likely scenario based on what you have described is that your child is reacting to your marriage issues. Children internalize and blame themselves. Get the two of you some counseling - even if you split, you need to do it in a way that respects your child.
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I agree…your husband sounds angry and stressed, and you may be too.
Kids react to that in the way your son is.
Get help.
 
And the first time it happens just happens to be at the same time the family is having significant issues - and the father is reacting this way? Those are all strong indications that the child may need assistance, and its better safe than sorry.
I realize the above may have been unclear. When I said “first time” I didn’t mean the first time the boy had a bad dream or woke up - I mean the first time that the boy exhibit consistent frightened behavior with bad dreams at night - i.e. the first series of such incidents.
 
The nanny cam is a good idea …regarding watching and observing behavior. I feel so separate from my son and his dad’s world…they get to spend the day together and I only get to see them on my quick dinner break. So, of course that makes me worry more about that kiddo.

Sometimes when I sit and really take in everything that I have going on in life…I get really sad. Yes, my husband is working more but he’s just so distant (except when he’s complaining) and yes, I THINK he’s a good father …but he shares too much of our adult drama with our son.

I often feel like turning to God will only make me feel as if I need to forgive more and be more compassionate to the issues at hand. That’s what always seems to happen…
I forgive…make excuses…forgive. And then bam…something like this incident happens with our son. Screaming “WHAT DO YOU WANT?!” not only woke me up in a frenzy…but I can’t seem to shake those words today.

And telling our son (crying in our bed) that “that’s it…he needs to see someone because this is ridiculous”…

It’s just so jarring…when you have a husband who is calling and asking what he can make you for dinner and bring it to you at work…and doting over me. THEN compare that to the coldness he exhibited with our son.
 
The nanny cam is a good idea …regarding watching and observing behavior. I feel so separate from my son and his dad’s world…they get to spend the day together and I only get to see them on my quick dinner break. So, of course that makes me worry more about that kiddo.

Sometimes when I sit and really take in everything that I have going on in life…I get really sad. Yes, my husband is working more but he’s just so distant (except when he’s complaining) and yes, I THINK he’s a good father …but he shares too much of our adult drama with our son.

I often feel like turning to God will only make me feel as if I need to forgive more and be more compassionate to the issues at hand. That’s what always seems to happen…
I forgive…make excuses…forgive. And then bam…something like this incident happens with our son. Screaming “WHAT DO YOU WANT?!” not only woke me up in a frenzy…but I can’t seem to shake those words today.

And telling our son (crying in our bed) that “that’s it…he needs to see someone because this is ridiculous”…

It’s just so jarring…when you have a husband who is calling and asking what he can make you for dinner and bring it to you at work…and doting over me. THEN compare that to the coldness he exhibited with our son.
Children should NEVER be burdened with adult issues; this is one of the topmost rules of parenting. The two of you need to have a discussion - if necessary with a counselor - about this none.

There are many places online to learn more about this - but even simple ones are helpful:
Dr. Phil says there are two main rules when it comes to parenting, especially during times of crisis and instability in your family:
  1. Do not burden your children with situations they cannot control.
  2. Do not ask your children to deal with adult issues.
I don’t know, I’m not there, but from what you describe, your child appears to be aware of the strained relationship and appears to be acting out. Children place the burden on themselves. Children crave safety and the stress of the marriage is destroying it.

Scott Peck, a psychiatrist with a strong Christian background, wrote about how children would develop issues because of the problems their parents had. The child was brought to him to “fix” because the child was the “designated patient”. All the child is doing is reacting to the parental situation, and that is what needs to be addressed, along with how to keep the child out of the parental issue.

Please, see a counselor.
 
I don’t know about if your child needs a therapist but I think he reacted in a normal way, people are usually grumpy when they were woken up.
 
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