Is This Particular Teaching Subject to Change?

[AveSantaMaria]

When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne, and all the nations will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

Then the king will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me a drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.’

Then the righteous will answer him and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink?
When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you?
When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?

And the king will say to them in reply, ‘Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.’

Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.’

Then they will answer and say, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison and not minister to your needs?’

He wil answer them, ‘Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.’
And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life." Matthew 25:31-46

As long as the homosexual community struggles with such high sucide rates and STD rates in America, Western Europe, Africa, and Asia perhaps they ought to be on our list of people that we should think of when we minister to them as if we were ministering to Christ. That’s a Mother Teresa like attitude I think.

 

[pureDzire]

May God Bless You for all your time and care in replying to my Posts. If I may add a view that perhaps has not been taken into consideration as yet, I think it might be helpful:

Why Gay People suffer so much internally and why I asked if they may they be openly gay in the Church, as long as they are living chaste lives…

Sexuality begins very early on in life. Having role models is a given for heterosexuals. TV Shows, Movies, Commercials, Magazines, and the type of persons we most often encounter in our daily lives, give us a framework of our learning behavior between men and women. How men and women show their affections, how they share in life’s challenges, how they flirt or how they ask someone out on a date, how they handle sadness.

Sexuality, not spoken necessarily, is portrayed through these behaviors. Especially as I have seen in Basic Daily Exchanges between people, Gestures such as a man opening a door for a woman, or paying the check on a date, and social customs such as these. All these messages inform us without words about our roles as sexual beings in a society.

Confusion for a person with a homosexual orientation begins right from the first role models they encounter in life that they somehow know they don’t connect with as their peers do, or as their siblings do. Now, HERE I MUST ASK that whomever wishes to reply to this NOT use any particular word I may have used in a way to dis-semble the meaning of what I am trying to convey here, please. We must truly open our hearts here, perhaps maybe more than our intellects, and SEE the pain we may, by our love, be able to alleviate through our efforts here. Each of us.

To Be Openly Gay in the Church at least could alleviate the pressure of having to belong by appearances only, which is what happens when someone is not out. They get to belong only because no one ever really gets to know them, but responds to them through their ‘appropriate behavior’. They learn to ‘fit in’ by imitation, not by being real. So, masks are all we ever get to meet. And, they have learned pretty much how to fit in by all the TV and Movies they have been watching that portray the ‘norm’ of behavior between men and women since their childhood. It is sad for them. And, sad for us not to be able to get to know these children of God.

Their self-esteem is so poor that they actually take on a more acceptable persona just to fit in, so they can come to Church like everyone else. Meaning, like everyone else ‘appears’ to be on the surface. They come with some sense of peace, but not really at peace.

Coming Out for them would mean being given the permission to learn to be who they really are inside in a safe environment among loving persons of the Church. Not being shunned if they don’t relate socially or otherwise as we do, etc.

One more comment…the terms we have used have become acceptable, like ‘gay lifestyle’ but in truth, they are demeaning to a homosexual person. As though to say that their wanting love and acceptance and friends were not real for them, but that their coming out would be to show that they intend to carry on an actively sexual way of living only. That is rather a narrow and quite damaging association with that experience. Coming Out is a deeply deeply felt moment of truth that should receive our loving support and compassion, not be viewed as a pronouncement that they wish to begin a life of sin. Please, let us try to ponder the magnitude of such an event in anyone’s life. And, thank you.

 

[AveSantaMaria]

I have to renounce what I said before. I have no idea the circumstances of this issue. I hope to attend the Courage conference to learn more and hope the Pope will comment more. Homosexual orietnation is still a disordered desire so it is most important that these souls go to Heaven. It is one thing to come out to close friends or to people who are trying to help you but what does coming out in general mean?