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I’ve been thinking lately about the Obama stuff and birth control and how there are so called “Catholics” (I.e. Sebuilis) who go along with it. Also after reading CAF members talk about clergy abusing their positions (liturgical abuse). My question is, would we ever have a modern day inquisition, or mass excommunications? Admittingly I don’t know a whole lot about the inquisition, but I believe it was to help fight certain heretical people? (please correct me if wrong). But given the state of things, would it be a good idea to “clean house” so to speak? What do you think, would or wouldn’t this be a good/bad idea.

Ps: I’m not talking about torturing or burning people 🙂
 
Are you talking about Priests, I thought there was a shortage already.
 
We call the inquisition The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Before Vatican II it was even called the Holy Office of the Inquisition or just “The Holy Office” for short.👍
 
NorthTexan88 said:
I’ve been thinking lately about the Obama stuff and birth control and how there are so called “Catholics” (I.e. Sebuilis) who go along with it. Also after reading CAF members talk about clergy abusing their positions (liturgical abuse). My question is, would we ever have a modern day inquisition, or mass excommunications? Admittingly I don’t know a whole lot about the inquisition, but I believe it was to help fight certain heretical people? (please correct me if wrong). But given the state of things, would it be a good idea to “clean house” so to speak? What do you think, would or wouldn’t this be a good/bad idea.

Ps: I’m not talking about torturing or burning people 🙂
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Clean house by whom and for what? The Church is not the Gestapo and is not going to hunt down disobedient Catholics. I don’t want to be part of a Church with that type of mentality. There is a lot of subjectivity that can occur in such a situation, with people pushing their own agendas, etc.

People are quite capable of falling out of communion with the Church by themselves–it’s called mortal sin. Formal excommunication should be reserved for what it is now.

Why is it that people always see the solution to such problems in the Church in a punitive manner? It seems many Catholics would be all too happy to see their errant brothers and sisters be punished or ousted, whether they be priest, bishop, or layman. Why is it no one says “There but for the Grace of God, go I” and try to address the problem in a positive light?
 
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Clean house by whom and for what? The Church is not the Gestapo and is not going to hunt down disobedient Catholics. I don’t want to be part of a Church with that type of mentality. There is a lot of subjectivity that can occur in such a situation, with people pushing their own agendas, etc.

People are quite capable of falling out of communion with the Church by themselves–it’s called mortal sin. Formal excommunication should be reserved for what it is now.

Why is it that people always see the solution to such problems in the Church in a punitive manner? It seems many Catholics would be all too happy to see their errant brothers and sisters be punished or ousted, whether they be priest, bishop, or layman. Why is it no one says “There but for the Grace of God, go I” and try to address the problem in a positive light?
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:thumbsup:I agree we should pray for our errant brothers sisters,that they “see the light”,so to speak.
 
The question must be asked.

The apparant fact that Pelosi,Sebelius,and Kerry et. al. all* publicly* parade the fact that they are ‘Catholics’ and recieve communion (I do not know for sure that they all do recieve, but*** if…) and publicly and voiciferously advocate, Lobby, support and propose legislation that is anti -Catholic and Pro Abortion- then one must wonder if the current horrific fiasco of the ‘NO Conscience Clause’ provision in the Health Care Bill is pursuant, or perhaps a direct effect of, Politicians not being dealt with in a perhaps much more stern manner - perhaps* including** excommunication.

Has not the less stern measures resulted in Obama acting even more brazenly???

I am no Bishop. I turst* their* wisdom. Many have done a wonderful job of opposing Abortion. However the Church Offical can take an even greater role methinks, especially with the support of the Laity.

Prayers for all involved - Nimzovik
 
Northtexan,
If there were a group of calling themselves catholic and teaching heresy, then I believe there should be some level of questioning from Rome. i.e. Inquisition. This can take place on many levels and in many forms but I doubt any type of that we saw in Europe 500yrs ago. Even though the popular idea of that inquisition has been greatly exaggerated.
As for catholics that support an intrinsic evil like abortion (Sibilius, Cuomo, Pelosi etc) the local bishops should make a decision on whether they would be allowed to receive the Eucharist and at most excommunicate them based on the level of sin they are advancing/professing. As for priests that are guilty of liturgical abuses, that needs to be investigated first to be proven then action may take place. We as lay catholics need to really know our faith so that if we see a liturgical abuse taking place or a teaching that at a minimum seems not quite right, we can bring it up to that priest direclty. If the topic/decision/explanation is not to our satisfactory, go to the bishop.
It is incumbent on all of us to hold our clergy accountable but WE must know the faith and it’s teaching well enough to make the arguement.
Now, there is no doubt that there have been liturgical abuses in America. I’ve seen videos of “masses” taking place that look like cooky “worship” ceremonies. That seems to be the purview of the local bishops to take appropriate actions.
Back to the politicians. The pro-abortion catholics are not in full communion of the Church and they need to be instructed that their point of view goes against the teaching of the Church and thus the body of Christ. Most of these politicians take their catholicism as a cultural identity and not a religion to be lived. Their religion is liberalism. Their view points are more important to them than what God wants from us. (My opinion based on their actions of course)

Lastly, Pope Benedict XVI said as much that we, the Church, may need to shrink before we can fully grow again (paraphrasing). I believe that something in between outright mass excommunication and remaining in the status quo is comming.
 
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People are quite capable of falling out of communion with the Church by themselves–it’s called mortal sin. Formal excommunication should be reserved for what it is now.

Why is it that people always see the solution to such problems in the Church in a punitive manner? It seems many Catholics would be all too happy to see their errant brothers and sisters be punished or ousted, whether they be priest, bishop, or layman. Why is it no one says “There but for the Grace of God, go I” and try to address the problem in a positive light?
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The danger comes to those who catechism is weak and are confused of the true teachings on faith and morals. These people will think that is it OK to pick and choose what they want. Those discerning the faith will also be confused. Why have the magestirium if we can live how we want? To interpret scripture they way we see fit?

Not my will be done but Thy will be done.
 
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