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I was curious and hoping to get some feed back to a question and here is the question:
If someone woke up this morning and they had a voice in their head which said to read Psalms 110(also was the daily reading for today, let us also say that he has done no daily reading so would not know that prior to occurring), would that be consider a part of the Gift of Prophecy or would that be a gift all together separate? I know that Saint Joan of Arc had these experiences(voices inside her mind). No, psychoanalysis please.and also please do not try and give definitions. Thanks.
 
It depends on what kind of voice you are talking about. Is it just a thought or an actual voice? What happened after reading Ps110? An intuition that we may get to read somthing is not a prophecy. Not to mention that the Church teaches that prophecy ended with the death of the last apostle. So a general rule I would subscribe to would be to chalk it up to some natural human experience and don’t dwell on such things. Read the Psalm and continue on with the rest of the bible seek God and honor the Blessed Virgin Mary.
 
david_friol said:
It depends on what kind of voice you are talking about. Is it just a thought or an actual voice? What happened after reading Ps110? An intuition that we may get to read somthing is not a prophecy. Not to mention that the Church teaches that prophecy ended with the death of the last apostle. So a general rule I would subscribe to would be to chalk it up to some natural human experience and don’t dwell on such things. Read the Psalm and continue on with the rest of the bible seek God and honor the Blessed Virgin Mary.
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Public revelation or Scripture ended with the death of the last apostle. Private revelation, sometimes made public, as with Lourdes and Kibeho, still happens, and may be happening right now.
 
david_friol said:
It depends on what kind of voice you are talking about. Is it just a thought or an actual voice? What happened after reading Ps110? An intuition that we may get to read somthing is not a prophecy. Not to mention that the Church teaches that prophecy ended with the death of the last apostle. So a general rule I would subscribe to would be to chalk it up to some natural human experience and don’t dwell on such things. Read the Psalm and continue on with the rest of the bible seek God and honor the Blessed Virgin Mary.
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I was not aware of that. Do you have a reference, preferably from Rome or the early church fathers? I do believe that Saint Joan of Arc, Lucia Dos Santos had prophecies, as well as many others. I love dwelling on such matters, for I believe that is honorable to always have God on one’s mind… But, this is getting a little off the subject. Thanks for your reply.
I do not want to get into details because that would probably come more under personal revelation. I was just wondering about what my question address. No claims are being made on this thread, just looking for some (name removed by moderator)uts. Thanks again. Heck, maybe I am just doing some research.🤷
 
We are not allowed to posit an entirely natural explanation, such as a recollection from memory of the psalm in question from a past reading or hearing? It has to be a matter either for a shrink or a priest? What exciting spiritual lives you all have.
 
JosemariaDon said:
I was curious and hoping to get some feed back to a question and here is the question:
If someone woke up this morning and they had a voice in their head which said to read Psalms 110(also was the daily reading for today, let us also say that he has done no daily reading so would not know that prior to occurring), would that be consider a part of the Gift of Prophecy or would that be a gift all together separate? I know that Saint Joan of Arc had these experiences(voices inside her mind). No, psychoanalysis please.and also please do not try and give definitions. Thanks.
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I’ve had “voices” on occasion. I could name at least 3 occasions which were very clearly not from me, and which specifically cut across and yet addressed my train of thought. Even my Catholic psychiatrist told me a story after I’d told him about my experiences. In his case a voice said clearly to him in his own office as he was typing on the computer “Go to Maclean”. This was affirmed by an aboriginal lady coming up to him a couple of months later after his involvement in a “family healing mass” and rather apologetically saying she seemed to be getting told he should “go to Maclean”.

So “voices” happen. They can be from you, God (or an angel), the devil (or a demon).

I’m pretty sure there’d be a context leading up to it. What were you thinking about the night before, or immediately just beforehand? Has there been a problem bothering you, or a train of thought eg. world problems?

I had a look at Psalm 110 and it seems to affirm the victory of Christ. So I’m wondering if you’ve been pondering the problems around the place?

It’s pretty rare for God to speak without a prior context, although my psychiatrist was an exception. He probably was planning to go to the “family healing mass” but that was to be held in Lismore, not Maclean, and it was a couple of months away. So I don’t think he’d been thinking along any particular line at the time.

But usually God works in line with your thoughts. When Christ appeared to Saul for example on the road to Damascus, it was highly likely that Saul had been mulling over in his mind the way Stephen looked as he was being stoned, and the impact of the things he had said. God read Sauls’ thoughts and frame of mind, and Bingo! The time was right.

So I suspect there was some prior context. But only you can tell us that.

“Voices” do happen.
 
To elaborate on Saul’s state of mind (to emphasise my theme that God usually speaks in line with our thoughts), the only way the writer of Acts would have been able to record Stephen’s appearance and in particular the almost verbatim and long speech before he was stoned, would have been either to be there himself, or hear it from a third party.

If we assume Luke wrote Acts, then he wasn’t there. So he heard if from somebody else, and that person was probably Saul, alias Paul, since Acts makes it clear they knew each other. And he makes a point of remarking that Saul was there.

For Saul to have been able to recite so much of Stephen’s defence, he must have been impressed. Therefore on the way to Damascus, his own mind would have been in turmoil. What was the truth? Then Christ spoke, although he made sure His message got through. Saul experienced a bit more than just a “Voice”.

They happen. The main problem is to discern the author of the voice.
 
Bob_Crowley said:
To elaborate on Saul’s state of mind (to emphasise my theme that God usually speaks in line with our thoughts), the only way the writer of Acts would have been able to record Stephen’s appearance and in particular the almost verbatim and long speech before he was stoned, would have been either to be there himself, or hear it from a third party.

If we assume Luke wrote Acts, then he wasn’t there. So he heard if from somebody else, and that person was probably Saul, alias Paul, since Acts makes it clear they knew each other. And he makes a point of remarking that Saul was there.

For Saul to have been able to recite so much of Stephen’s defence, he must have been impressed. Therefore on the way to Damascus, his own mind would have been in turmoil. What was the truth? Then Christ spoke, although he made sure His message got through. Saul experienced a bit more than just a “Voice”.

They happen. The main problem is to discern the author of the voice.
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Yes, I believe that is what I was after. Discernment. Although, this time the person did look up the verse and it turn out to be exact, sometimes, it is hard to tell this voice from others, such as when one might have while day dream or dreaming at night or at any time really. I believe what I am trying to say is that, at times other spirits could be misleading. Now the individual have had other experiences where a answer was in his mind but of no doubt about the source, he says that it is like a beautiful thought or one might say a thought of love, or even the guidance of the Holy Spirit. These thoughts do not seem to be able to be echo or copy-cat by any bad spirits. Perhaps that is the fruit of the spirit. I do not know. Any way I was hoping to have isolate what gift that this be for further readings or thoughts. Thanks.
 
puzzleannie said:
We are not allowed to posit an entirely natural explanation, such as a recollection from memory of the psalm in question from a past reading or hearing? It has to be a matter either for a shrink or a priest? What exciting spiritual lives you all have.
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Exciting? For me it is a Hard, Sad, and Lonely Journey. But I can say one thing beyond any doubt in my mind. The Lord Loves me.🤷
 
For those who may have read the above threads, this is in relationship to david_friol comments: The proper reference is: catholic.com/library/Can_Dogma_Develop.asp

Christians have always understood that at the close of the apostolic age—with the death of the last surviving apostle, John, perhaps around A.D. 100—public revelation ceased (Catechism of the Catholic Church 66–67, 73). Christ fulfilled the Old Testament law (Matt. 5:17) and is the ultimate teacher of humanity: “You have one teacher, the Messiah” (Matt. 23:10). The apostles recognized that their task was to pass on, intact, the faith given to them by the Master: “[A]nd what you have heard from me before many witnesses entrust to faithful men who will be able to teach others also” (2 Tim. 2:2); “But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom you learned it” (2 Tim. 3:14).

However, this closure to public revelation doesn’t mean there isn’t progress in the understanding of what has been entrusted to the Church. Anyone interested in Christianity will ask, “What does this doctrine imply? How does it relate to that doctrine?”

The Blessed Virgin Mary models this process of coming to an ever deeper understanding of God’s revelation: “But Mary kept all these things, pondering them in her heart” (Luke 2:19).

Well, the above help me to learn how the Pope fits into the big picture and that relationship in the understanding of how it is still in the frame work of following just one teacher—Jesus. Oh, the beauty of the Holy Spirit.
 
I’d say no, not prophecy. Catholic Answers LIVE (radio show) recently had a good show on prophecy, and it’s more about being shown (and told to share) future events (conditional or definite). What you’re describing seems like just a mental quirk and coincidence. I wake up and want Eggo waffles, and the Pope also ate Eggo waffles this morning… OMG! 😉
 
This may be. If it is it is a form of Prophecy that the church calls “Private Revelation”
In my own life I have had many experiences with Private Revelation. Some of these are warnings, others affirmations.
I wont go into details here as it’s against the rules of this forum.
as a general guide - when such voices are leading you closer to God, his Word, and his Church they probably are a subtle part the work of the Holy Spirit.
If they do not lead in this direction they are probably not from God.
 
What you received was a prompting of the Holy Spirit to read a particular passage.
Prophecy is not the prediction of the future, but rather when a person is called to prophesy he/she speaks the message of God as received. The way I read the OP, your reading of the psalm was meant for your own edification or consolation. It was not a message you were called to share publicly.
 
anruari said:
This may be. If it is it is a form of Prophecy that the church calls “Private Revelation”
In my own life I have had many experiences with Private Revelation. Some of these are warnings, others affirmations.
I wont go into details here as it’s against the rules of this forum.
as a general guide - when such voices are leading you closer to God, his Word, and his Church they probably are a subtle part the work of the Holy Spirit.
If they do not lead in this direction they are probably not from God.
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Sorry, you could not go into details. You certainly are spot on with my experiences and thinking. I would have love to hear more. Seems this forum cares more about promoting masturbation, lesbians, and other forms of perversion and shutting up those who have experiences dealing with the Gifts of the Holy Spirit. Know wonder I feel so out of place. Guess, I need to do as my Mother did and ponder it in my heart. Thanks for sharing what was allowed. Now back to their Shrinks.
 
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