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What was Pope Eugene drinking? Ill leave that decision up to our Lord . :eek:
 
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I thought we were saved by Gods grace. Salvation is a gift. It is not earned. So much for the cross at calvery. Where does it say in scripture that the church is necessary for salvation? :eek:
Grace is imparted to us through Christ’s Body, the Church.

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
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I thought we were saved by Gods grace. Salvation is a gift. It is not earned. So much for the cross at calvery. Where does it say in scripture that the church is necessary for salvation? :eek:
The references to the Church and Jesus being one and the same are many in the New Testament. Paul heard it direct from the Lord… We hear it in passages like “he who hears you, hears Me…” or “…take it to the Church, and if he does not listen even to the Church…” or “…the pillar and foundation of Truth is the Church…”
By the Cross, the gates of Heaven were reopened - that was necessary for all of mankind so all could be saved. We have to work out that salvation in fear and trembling, like Paul, and ask for prayers so we don’t lose our salvation/justification - just like St Paul feared some could and would.

We can’t get to the Father, except through the Son, who is Jesus, Who is the Church.

MrS
 
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What verse was that from? :confused:
The one that’s right next to the verse that says that everything needs a corresponding verse. 😉
 
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MrS:
The references to the Church and Jesus being one and the same are many in the New Testament. Paul heard it direct from the Lord… We hear it in passages like “he who hears you, hears Me…” or “…take it to the Church, and if he does not listen even to the Church…” or “…the pillar and foundation of Truth is the Church…”
By the Cross, the gates of Heaven were reopened - that was necessary for all of mankind so all could be saved. We have to work out that salvation in fear and trembling, like Paul, and ask for prayers so we don’t lose our salvation/justification - just like St Paul feared some could and would.

We can’t get to the Father, except through the Son, who is Jesus, Who is the Church.

MrS
Thats not what it says in my bible. :confused:
 
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Thats not what it says in my bible. :confused:
Your bible doesn’t say that the church is the Body of Christ? Why not?

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
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Catholic4aReasn:
Your bible doesn’t say that the church is the Body of Christ? Why not?

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
The church is necesary for salvation. I dont see that in my bible? Yes we are the body of Christ and Jesus is the head. 😉
 
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SPOKENWORD:
The church is necesary for salvation. I dont see that in my bible? Yes we are the body of Christ and Jesus is the head. 😉
If the Church is Jesus and Jesus is necessary for salvation how can the church NOT be necessary for salvation? How do you separate Christ from his Body?

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
 
The Church speaks for Christ:
16"He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects him who sent me." Luke 10:16
The Church is Christ’s witness on earth, to preach the good news to all. Christ lives through his Church on earth.
 
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Catholic4aReasn:
If the Church is Jesus and Jesus is necessary for salvation how can the church NOT be necessary for salvation? How do you separate Christ from his Body?

In Christ,
Nancy 🙂
Is that body intact today? Has Jesus come? When the body is united then Jesus will come. Of course none of us know when that is going to happen. :confused:
 
Remember this part in the Holy Bible? " I adjure you by the Living God that you tell us… are you the Christ… are you the Son of God? " and Jesus answered him saying " I am "

That’s as infallible as it gets. And He was called a blasphemer and they took Him away to have Him crucified.
Infallibility of the Catholic Church is a fact, by Grace from Christ through Mary.
 
**1 Col 1:18 **And He is the head of the body, the church, …

**1 Cor 6:15 **Do you not know that you bodies are members of Christ?..
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Is that body intact today? Has Jesus come? When the body is united then Jesus will come. Of course none of us know when that is going to happen. :confused:
This has nothing to do with the second coming of Christ. This is about the body of Christ of who we are both members of. If we are members of the body of Christ, we are also part of the church since Christ is the head of the Body, the church (1 Col 1:18).
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The church is necesary for salvation. I dont see that in my bible? Yes we are the body of Christ and Jesus is the head. 😉
If Christ is the church as Scripture says, and Christ is necessary for Salvation, the church (Christ) is necessary for Salvation.
 
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