Is this scrupulous?

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After coming home from Mass today I touched various things that are disposable, toliet paper, chocolate bar wrapper etc…but since my finger has touched Holy Water I am scared to throw out these things since my finger has touched them. What should I do?
 
Think you may be going a little overboard on this… maybe you should wash your hands a bit more often.
 
You’re heading into the dangerous territory of scuples, my friend. Turn back! Don’t go there! 🙂
 
After the Holy Water has evaporated from your fingers / forehead, it does not transfer to things you touch. Such thinking is definitely scrupulous.
 
Yep, scrupulous. Another scruple some have (I did) was seeing something like a bit of leaf or Kleenex on the floor of the church and fearing it was a crumb of a consecrated Host. I mean, it would be one thing if it was obviously the entire round Host lying there or if you actually saw particles drop from one, but I was freaking out about every pale-colored thing.

Anyway, what helped me at the first was reading the Scrupulous Anonymous newsletter and the advice of a wise priest writing in there who said “Give the Angels something to do.” In other words, if there were crumbs of an actual Host (which is rare, because the priest and Eucharistic Ministers are trained to be careful, so probably I was just seeing leaves and Kleenexes! 😉 ), God’s Angels would guard Jesus - that’s their job! 👍

Then later I got more brave and could verify for myself that the things I was seeing were ordinary mundane bits of stuff.

And another friend pointed out to me that Jesus makes Himself vulnerable to us in the consecrated Host, and that He knows what He’s doing, just as when He came to Earth and ultimately made Himself vulnerable to being nailed to a Cross - for US! :bigyikes: Us sinful people! This is not to say we should ever deliberately desecrate the Eucharist, of course not, but that Our Savior’s love and mercy toward us sinful people is so much greater than we can imagine. We should reflect on the love rather than the fear.

Sacramentals such as Holy Water can be dealt with using the same principle. Be focused on the positive of them - reflect on how the Holy Water is a reminder of our Baptism - being freed from sin, becoming a member of the Body of Christ. :getholy: Say a joyful “Thank you!” to God for that. And God, who created the physical universe, all the atoms and molecules that make up the water, and the graces that enable the priest to bless and sanctify some water in a special way - God is in charge of all that, and He knows what he’s doing! We don’t have to micro-manage it all ourselves! He doesn’t want us to do that!

Easier said than done sometimes with scrupulosity, but keep practicing and it will become easier! God bless you! :hug3:
 
I’m confused about usage of the word ‘scrupulous’ on this forum. This is not the first time I’ve noticed that some Catholics seem to have access to their own dictionary…
Webster’s dictionary sites scrupulous as: having moral integrity : acting in strict regard for what is considered right or proper.
However, it seems on CAF to mean ‘neurotic’: a functional disorder in which feelings of anxiety, obsessional thoughts, compulsive acts, and physical complaints without objective evidence of disease, in various degrees and patterns, dominate the personality.

Is neurosis considered to be a sin? I agree it is not mentally healthy, but sinful? :confused:
 
I’m confused about usage of the word ‘scrupulous’ on this forum. This is not the first time I’ve noticed that some Catholics seem to have access to their own dictionary…

However, it seems on CAF to mean ‘neurotic’: a functional disorder in which feelings of anxiety, obsessional thoughts, compulsive acts, and physical complaints without objective evidence of disease, in various degrees and patterns, dominate the personality.

Is neurosis considered to be a sin? I agree it is not mentally healthy, but sinful? :confused:
Here at CAF, the word scrupulous is most often used in the sense as defined in the Old Catholic Encyclopedia:

“An unfounded apprehension and consequently unwarranted fear that something is a sin which, as a matter of fact, is not.”
 
After the Holy Water has evaporated from your fingers / forehead, it does not transfer to things you touch. Such thinking is definitely scrupulous.
This.
the word ‘scrupulous’ on this forum… it seems on CAF to mean ‘neurotic’…

Is neurosis considered to be a sin? I agree it is not mentally healthy, but sinful? :confused:
I understand your confusion. The conditions you listed, such as obsessional thoughts and compulsive acts, often accompany scrupulosity. In addition to what Joe said, I would like to clarify that we do not consider neuroses such as anxiety, obsessional thoughts, or compulsive acts to be sinful. They need attention and treatment.
 
Thanks, Joe! That link is very helpful. Sometimes this site reminds me of how I felt when I watched Dune for the first time… or Princess Bride: “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
 
Thanks, Joe! That link is very helpful. Sometimes this site reminds me of how I felt when I watched Dune for the first time… or Princess Bride: “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.”
😃 Yes, sometimes theology uses words differently than most casual conversations. Just look up the word “economy” in the Catechism some time. 😉
 
😃 Yes, sometimes theology uses words differently than most casual conversations. Just look up the word “economy” in the Catechism some time. 😉
Holy cow - there is enough material to write a thesis…

I dunno if all of theology uses this dictionary or if it’s just Catholicism… I’ll ask my dad (he’s a retired minister with a doctorate in theology)
 
Holy cow - there is enough material to write a thesis…

I dunno if all of theology uses this dictionary or if it’s just Catholicism… I’ll ask my dad (he’s a retired minister with a doctorate in theology)
Ah yes, then there are the difference between how one Christian group uses a term and another group uses it. It can get confusing. :o
 
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