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Rush_Catholic
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Is it true that now with the 2002 Roman Missal changes that the Novus Ordo can be celebrated with more saints than the TLM?
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That_one_guy
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Why shouldn’t it? Are there not more canonized Saints now than there were when they penned the first Mass?Is it true that now with the 2002 Roman Missal changes that the Novus Ordo can be celebrated with more saints than the TLM?
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gelsbern
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There’s only 365 days in a year. Some saints days are actually feast days. I’d like to know how they are going to celebrate more saints.
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That_one_guy
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What?
If we gave every Saint a day out of the year, do you know how long the year would be? Are you the only one who was born on your birthday?
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Cluny
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A lot of saints are of local, rather than uninversal, observance.
The Roman Martyrology lists nearly a dozen saints on each day, and every single one of them can have mass or office celebrated in his/her honor, though in most cases you’d have to use the Commons.
The Roman Martyrology lists nearly a dozen saints on each day, and every single one of them can have mass or office celebrated in his/her honor, though in most cases you’d have to use the Commons.
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weepixie71
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hey, why not!
why would it be such a shock to have yet ANOTHER change to the novus ordo?
why would it be such a shock to have yet ANOTHER change to the novus ordo?
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Andreas_Hofer
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I suppose you would have to look at their respective calendars. I do know, however, that the calendar was substantially pruned and/or downgraded to make more room for an NO ferial cycle of readings, so that would seem to militate against there suddenly being more saints in the 2002 version. I wouldn’t, however, rule anything out.
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FrRJBoyd
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A votive TLM of any saint that appears in the Roman Martyrology of 1962 or 2004 (or canonized since 2004) may be offered on a IV class feria, with Gloria if on the actual feast. So, for example, on October 5, a TLM in honor of St. Faustina could be offered using the common of virgins (not martyrs), with a commemoration of SS. Placid and Companions, and the Gloria would be said. Similarly, a votive Mass in the ordinary form may be offered for her on the same day, using the common of virgins. So no matter what form of the Mass you use, a saint is a saint. To the best of my knowledge, only two saints were removed entirely from the Roman Martyrology: St. Philomena and St. Anacletus. This was done in 1961. A pity.
Without doing an actual count, it seems that, overall, more saints are celebrated or commemorated by name on the 1962 Roman Calendar than on the 2002 Calendar. However, if you take into account companions on the new feasts of certain martyrs (whose names are not explicitly mentioned in the calendar, but are found in the Martyrology) the reverse is probably true.
God bless,
Fr. Boyd
Without doing an actual count, it seems that, overall, more saints are celebrated or commemorated by name on the 1962 Roman Calendar than on the 2002 Calendar. However, if you take into account companions on the new feasts of certain martyrs (whose names are not explicitly mentioned in the calendar, but are found in the Martyrology) the reverse is probably true.
God bless,
Fr. Boyd
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gelsbern
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I am glad my attempt at humor wasn’t missed.
Seriously, since for the most part only one mass a day is said, there is still only going to be, in general, one mass commemorating a specific saint, even thought many saints may be listed for the day.
Fr. said it best.
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