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christcnection1
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This was the first Christian book I think I ever read. I enjoyed it very much, and it greatly strengthened my faith.
Is this video true, and if so, what does it mean to our faith?
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christcnection1
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Thanks to everyone who has contributed this thread! This is a topic I have not heard addressed on CAF. I’m sure others will be able to refer to it, when confronted with “information” like this. (Surprisingly, it’s new to me.)
It sounds like a lot has already been done to refute this new age, astrological mumbo jumbo.
And like some others have said, even if some of the parallels are true, in most instances I can see why this only bolsters our faith.
Peace and Love…
JB
It sounds like a lot has already been done to refute this new age, astrological mumbo jumbo.
And like some others have said, even if some of the parallels are true, in most instances I can see why this only bolsters our faith.
Peace and Love…
JB
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M0nkey
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I had to laugh when it said, “Emperor constantine brought together the council of nicea in 325.” What ignorant rubbish… In reality I think this strengthened my faith seeing all the parallels in ancient cultures. I think man, can definitely have his feeble attempts to reach out the the creator. 
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Scientiphic
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What we know for sure is that Dec 25 and Eastor are both pagan festivities.
Its impossible for Christ to be born in Dec, it being so cold and no sheep could graze. Easter too is well proven to be Eastor the fertility goddess with the EGG.
Even Sunday worship is pagan and Friday worship is ancient moon worship. **Sabbath is SATURDAY **(as observed even by the Jews!). There’s no escaping for this one.
Basically, this is what the Bible means by its ‘neither minus nor add’ Don’t add, cos it becomes sunday (catholic), and don’t minus cos it becomes friday (islam). God is right smack on the dot. ACCURACY.
God’s instructions are always very specific, it is man who twists God’s word and inserts sacraments and even people into it and calls it Christianity.
BUT to use these corrupted practices to accuse Christianity as fraud is unfair, because just because the Catholics have pagan practices doesn’t mean the rest of us who are following the Bible are also pagan. :hammering:
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Its impossible for Christ to be born in Dec, it being so cold and no sheep could graze. Easter too is well proven to be Eastor the fertility goddess with the EGG.
Even Sunday worship is pagan and Friday worship is ancient moon worship. **Sabbath is SATURDAY **(as observed even by the Jews!). There’s no escaping for this one.
Basically, this is what the Bible means by its ‘neither minus nor add’ Don’t add, cos it becomes sunday (catholic), and don’t minus cos it becomes friday (islam). God is right smack on the dot. ACCURACY.
God’s instructions are always very specific, it is man who twists God’s word and inserts sacraments and even people into it and calls it Christianity.
BUT to use these corrupted practices to accuse Christianity as fraud is unfair, because just because the Catholics have pagan practices doesn’t mean the rest of us who are following the Bible are also pagan. :hammering:
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jam070406
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:whacky: :takeoff:
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Molly2000z
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Everything you have written makes sense to me.
And in many cases, people use the word “catholic” to get money out of other people, as in the case of this forum.
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dlalejini
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As far as claiming worship on Sunday is of pagan origin, here are a few things to consider.
What day did early Christians worship on?
From Acts 20:7 “On the first day of the week when we gathered to break bread,…”
From Revelation 1:10 “I was caught up in spirit on the Lord’s day…”
Note: A form of the word “Sunday” is in languages such as German, Dutch, and English. However languages such as Spanish, Italian, and French use a form of the Latin word “Dominica,” which means “Lord’s Day” (check out where the Commonwealth of Dominica got its name).
There are also many other early Christian writings which support that the Lord’s Day was Sunday, and that was when Christians worshipped.
Why did early Christians worship on “Dominica?”
From John 20:1 “On the first day of the week, Mary of Magdala came to the tomb early in the morning, while it was still dark, and saw the stone removed from the tomb.”
From Luke 24:1-6 "But at daybreak on the first day of the week they took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. They found the stone rolled away from the tomb; but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. While they were puzzling over this, behold, two men in dazzling garments appeared to them. They were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground. They said to them, “Why do you seek the living one among the dead? He is not here, but he has been raised”
What about prophecy in the Old Testament?
From Psalms 118:22-24 “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. By the LORD has this been done; it is wonderful in our eyes. This is the day the LORD has made; let us rejoice in it and be glad.”
What does all this really mean?
Let’s look at the connection to the seventh day and covenant.
The Hebrew word “Sheva” means seven, and it also means oath or covenant. When God created the universe, He chose to rest on the seventh day. Why? Does God need rest? No, He rested on the seventh day as an oath or covenant to creation. Our God is awesome, and He does not take His promises lightly. He did something He didn’t have to do in order to show the first people His unfailing commitment to them, no matter how sinful mankind might become.
Let’s go back to the beginning: Genesis 1:1-3, “In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless wasteland, and darkness covered the abyss, while a mighty wind swept over the waters. Then God said,…” (“God said” is repeated eight times in chapter one in bringing about creation).
Now let’s go to the New Testament to see the connection:
John 1:1-5 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.”
Colossians 1:15-17 “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For in him were created all things in heaven and on earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things were created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.”
2 Corinthians 5:17 "So whoever is in Christ is a new creation: the old things have passed away; behold, new things have come.”
Our Lord Jesus is the very spoken Word of God, through whom all things came to be. In the beginning, when God established the Sabbath on the seventh day (Saturday), God rested in order to covenant Himself to His creation. Because of the Father’s covenant with creation, the Word (through whom all things were created) then became flesh, sacrificed Himself for our sins, and rose again on the third day. Through the power of His resurrection, He has given us the ability to become a new creation in Him. Jesus established a New Covenant between God and man, which does not do away with the old, but fulfills it. We celebrate this new covenant, this day of new creation, on the day of our Lord’s resurrection (Sunday). This is not the day of the sun, but “Dominica,” the day of the Lord, when God established His New Covenant between Himself and man.
What day did early Christians worship on?
From Acts 20:7 “On the first day of the week when we gathered to break bread,…”
From Revelation 1:10 “I was caught up in spirit on the Lord’s day…”
Note: A form of the word “Sunday” is in languages such as German, Dutch, and English. However languages such as Spanish, Italian, and French use a form of the Latin word “Dominica,” which means “Lord’s Day” (check out where the Commonwealth of Dominica got its name).
There are also many other early Christian writings which support that the Lord’s Day was Sunday, and that was when Christians worshipped.
Why did early Christians worship on “Dominica?”
From John 20:1 “On the first day of the week, Mary of Magdala came to the tomb early in the morning, while it was still dark, and saw the stone removed from the tomb.”
From Luke 24:1-6 "But at daybreak on the first day of the week they took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. They found the stone rolled away from the tomb; but when they entered, they did not find the body of the Lord Jesus. While they were puzzling over this, behold, two men in dazzling garments appeared to them. They were terrified and bowed their faces to the ground. They said to them, “Why do you seek the living one among the dead? He is not here, but he has been raised”
What about prophecy in the Old Testament?
From Psalms 118:22-24 “The stone the builders rejected has become the cornerstone. By the LORD has this been done; it is wonderful in our eyes. This is the day the LORD has made; let us rejoice in it and be glad.”
What does all this really mean?
Let’s look at the connection to the seventh day and covenant.
The Hebrew word “Sheva” means seven, and it also means oath or covenant. When God created the universe, He chose to rest on the seventh day. Why? Does God need rest? No, He rested on the seventh day as an oath or covenant to creation. Our God is awesome, and He does not take His promises lightly. He did something He didn’t have to do in order to show the first people His unfailing commitment to them, no matter how sinful mankind might become.
Let’s go back to the beginning: Genesis 1:1-3, “In the beginning, when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth was a formless wasteland, and darkness covered the abyss, while a mighty wind swept over the waters. Then God said,…” (“God said” is repeated eight times in chapter one in bringing about creation).
Now let’s go to the New Testament to see the connection:
John 1:1-5 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.”
Colossians 1:15-17 “He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For in him were created all things in heaven and on earth, the visible and the invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things were created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.”
2 Corinthians 5:17 "So whoever is in Christ is a new creation: the old things have passed away; behold, new things have come.”
Our Lord Jesus is the very spoken Word of God, through whom all things came to be. In the beginning, when God established the Sabbath on the seventh day (Saturday), God rested in order to covenant Himself to His creation. Because of the Father’s covenant with creation, the Word (through whom all things were created) then became flesh, sacrificed Himself for our sins, and rose again on the third day. Through the power of His resurrection, He has given us the ability to become a new creation in Him. Jesus established a New Covenant between God and man, which does not do away with the old, but fulfills it. We celebrate this new covenant, this day of new creation, on the day of our Lord’s resurrection (Sunday). This is not the day of the sun, but “Dominica,” the day of the Lord, when God established His New Covenant between Himself and man.
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Ruthie
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Strobel has a newer and even better (in this case) book out, called “The Case for the Real Jesus” in which the Horus nonsense is firmly refuted. It’s Protestant in outlook, so that it calls St. James the Less, Jesus’ brother. However, it’s a great reference.
These newagers… if they can’t twist Scripture to match their beliefs, then they twist history to discredit the Scriptures.
Oops, charity… Let’s all pray for them!
God bless us and them all together,
Ruthie
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nebula
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Secular scholars have tried to find universal patterns in religions for the last century and a half in order ot discover its ‘deeper’ meaning, that is, the reason religion exists beyond what the believers actually believe. THe entire enterprise is predicated on the notion that there is no God, there is no ultimate truth besides the scientific one, and so forth. Anyway, this video is particularly badly done.
I’ll tell you the metholodogical problem with this: the reckless comparison of different ideas from different cultures and different times without going into depth into any of them. You can draw comparisons between almost anything as long as you don’t get into much depth, but once you start investigating further you find serious differences that were brushed over. For instance, when you actually compare Egyptian theology with Jewish theology you suddenly see that they are talking about two very different things, and that directly affects what the video wants to say about Christ.
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