Hi, there.there’s this certain verse that says this world belongs to Satan. (forgot the book, chapter and verse but it is in the NT)
my question is, how are we Catholics to understand this? is this world really satan’s? just a question though thanks in advance.
Matthew 4:8-10. One may note that Jesus does not deny that Satan has them to offer.8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and the glory of them; 9 and he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” 10* Then Jesus said to him, “Begone, Satan! for it is written, ‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’”
I don’t know the Bible as well as I should but I would have to say that Satan is alive and well on planet Earth. I would be really interested in what some Bible scholars would have to say on the subject.there’s this certain verse that says this world belongs to Satan. (forgot the book, chapter and verse but it is in the NT)
my question is, how are we Catholics to understand this? is this world really satan’s? just a question though thanks in advance.
That’s one thing that puzzles me too, how could Satan offer Jesus the kingdoms of the Earth if it weren’t his (Satan’s)?In his temptation of Christ Satan offers Matthew 4:8-10. One may note that Jesus does not deny that Satan has them to offer.
I think it is the teaching of the Church that Adam surrendered the world to Satan when he chose to follow Satan’s words rather than God’s.That’s one thing that puzzles me too, how could Satan offer Jesus the kingdoms of the Earth if it weren’t his (Satan’s)?
how does the catholic church view the world? like getting involved in worldly affairs, war and politics?
I want to clear this because pacifists tend to hit us with these verses the most.
=Fidei;6556964]there’s this certain verse that says this world belongs to Satan. (forgot the book, chapter and verse but it is in the NT)
CHRIST is the LANDLORD, Satan is only the tenet farmer. Christ can and MOST CERTAINLY WILL resume position when it is the approiate time, according to God Eternal Plan.my question is, how are we Catholics to understand this? is this world really satan’s? just a question though thanks in advance.
When Jesus Christ was born unto this world through the Blessed Mother. He became of the FLESH. He was to suffer as a human as all men suffer. He was therefore subject to the same temptation as man. He came here with the sole purpose to die for mans sins. He chose to die on the Cross. And he really suffered on that Cross, you could best believe that. But from the time he came, till he left, he taught the word of God. What he could have done and what he did do are two different things. He clearly understood his state of being and purpose. And because he lived the word he preached, Satan believed he could temp Christ. But this “is” GOD we are talking about. This is his world, he created this.So really Christ is putting himself in “your” shoes. Then showing you how to live and deal with life, temptation, etc. All the while through humility, poverty, hatred. The more you study Christ the more amazing you realize he is. Hes GOD.That’s one thing that puzzles me too, how could Satan offer Jesus the kingdoms of the Earth if it weren’t his (Satan’s)?
how does the catholic church view the world? like getting involved in worldly affairs, war and politics?
I want to clear this because pacifists tend to hit us with these verses the most.
So do you suppose that Satan is honorable and truthful? Was the serpent truthful in the Garden of Eden?That’s one thing that puzzles me too, how could Satan offer Jesus the kingdoms of the Earth if it weren’t his (Satan’s)?
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+1 it was Adam folly that gave the devil’s dominion over the world but it was Christ victory at Calvary that destroyed Satan’s hold on this worldI think it is the teaching of the Church that Adam surrendered the world to Satan when he chose to follow Satan’s words rather than God’s.
I think it is also taught that Jesus’ sacrifice voided Satan’s possession, but we are in the midst of the battle to dispossess him of it.
I don’t have a reference for that but have heard it from credible sources. That is, I don’t offer it as a required point of Faith, but tend to go with it until someone offers a better explanation.
didn’t mean to double post or quote please delete or ignore+1 it was Adam folly that gave the devil’s dominion over the world but it was Christ victory at Calvary that destroyed Satan’s hold on this world
Again his pride and arrogance that he will think he rules again and thus his final defeat.
There earth, heaven, were never his to rule
But notethat Jesus does not question Satan’s ability to deliver the kingdoms to Him.So do you suppose that Satan is honorable and truthful? Was the serpent truthful in the Garden of Eden?
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We know from scripture that Satan is a liar. What he told Eve was a lie. It is consistent that what he tells Jesus is also a lie. Jesus corrects Satan when he tests him, giving the perfect scripture each time.But notethat Jesus does not question Satan’s ability to deliver the kingdoms to Him.
John 8:44 –Satan, being the best liar, knows that any lie must be mostly truth. A complete lie is usually rather obvious. The trick is to tell mostly the truth, but add just a bit of spin - like the cyanide in the Kool-Aid. No one would drink straight cyanide.
In responding, Jesus does not dispute the truth in the statements, but nails the spin that makes it a lie.