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dfp42
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? My mom sent me a text message and wished me a happy epiphany day. I thought that the epiphany was last Sunday? Is the the true Epiphany celebrated today?
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ConstantineTG
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Yes, todaty is Epiphany/Theophany
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malphono
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The USCCB routinely transfers the celebration to Sunday for the Latin Church (as they do for most Holy Days) but yes, 6 January is the Epiphany.? My mom sent me a text message and wished me a happy epiphany day. I thought that the epiphany was last Sunday? Is the the true Epiphany celebrated today?
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dfp42
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Why do they do this? And also, why are some days not a holy day of obligation in certain states in the US but everywhere else they are? Why is the United States able to dismiss Holy days if they fall on a Saturday or Monday? Does it have to do with Americans being too busy?The USCCB routinely transfers the celebration to Sunday for the Latin Church (as they do for most Holy Days) but yes, 6 January is the Epiphany.
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malphono
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It’s not my business to comment on that, but you can have a look here at the actual text.Why do they do this? And also, why are some days not a holy day of obligation in certain states in the US but everywhere else they are? Why is the United States able to dismiss Holy days if they fall on a Saturday or Monday? Does it have to do with Americans being too busy?
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ConstantineTG
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So more people can celebrate the feastWhy do they do this?
Its in the competence of the local ordinary (Bishop) to move observations of holidays, or to totallly abrogate the obligation or dispense it. So one Bishop in one diocese may want a certain Feast to be obligatory, while another Bishop in another diocese may feel another way. It all depends on the pastoral needs of the people.And also, why are some days not a holy day of obligation in certain states in the US but everywhere else they are?
Any Bishop heading a diocese may do that, not just in the United StatesWhy is the United States able to dismiss Holy days if they fall on a Saturday or Monday?
As stated above, it has to do with the Bishops responding to the needs of the people. Most holidays are transfered to weekends because as you mentioned, people are working mostly on weekdays and they would want these people to be able to celebrate the feast day with the Church.Does it have to do with Americans being too busy?
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dfp42
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Makes sense I think and either way I’ll obey the bishops. But I don’t understand why it would be good for a certain Bishop to dispense a day that should be Holy to the people and ultimately benefit them while another bishop feels differently? I feel that this causes people confusion when Bishops don’t agree with one another.So more people can celebrate the feast
Its in the competence of the local ordinary (Bishop) to move observations of holidays, or to totallly abrogate the obligation or dispense it. So one Bishop in one diocese may want a certain Feast to be obligatory, while another Bishop in another diocese may feel another way. It all depends on the pastoral needs of the people.
Any Bishop heading a diocese may do that, not just in the United States
As stated above, it has to do with the Bishops responding to the needs of the people. Most holidays are transfered to weekends because as you mentioned, people are working mostly on weekdays and they would want these people to be able to celebrate the feast day with the Church.
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lbishaw
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I remember when we went to mass on these Holydays before they were moved to Sunday and it didn’t seem to be a problem. Our church was full like a Sunday mass. Now we have less required mass days and less people attending mass. Do you think there might be a correlation?
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ConstantineTG
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Depends on the diocese. If the diocese is mostly Catholic and has more parishes especially close to the places of work, then the Bishop may determine its not to hard for working people to get to Mass.Makes sense I think and either way I’ll obey the bishops. But I don’t understand why it would be good for a certain Bishop to dispense a day that should be Holy to the people and ultimately benefit them while another bishop feels differently? I feel that this causes people confusion when Bishops don’t agree with one another.
I’m just guessing here but lets just trust that the Bishop knows what he’s doing. They have a pretty good feel for this.
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TheMc
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Unfortunate. Why don’t we just leave the feasts where they should be? (Yes, I know the supposed answer, but it still dosen’t seem like we should be moving around all these feasts simply because people don’t want to go to church one extra time in a week).The USCCB routinely transfers the celebration to Sunday for the Latin Church (as they do for most Holy Days)
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ConstantineTG
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Its harder for most people. Its the sad reality of the world we live in today. I know there are some who have the chance to go to church on weekdays, yet there are those who really can’t even if they want to.Unfortunate. Why don’t we just leave the feasts where they should be? (Yes, I know the supposed answer, but it still dosen’t seem like we should be moving around all these feasts simply because people don’t want to go to church one extra time in a week).
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