Like Beef. My mother lived in Belgium for a time and every day went to a stand and bought a steak sandwich. Eventually as her grasp on Flemish got better she realised exactly what kind of steak she was tucking in to.
Interesting. My parents went to Europe, and they said that if a place sold Horse meat, they would have a Horses head, statue on the wall outside of the place. Do they still do this?
I think they did that in France as up until some time in the 90’s it was illegal for regular butchers to sell horse meat. You had to go to a special horse butcher.
And idealogues have no unintended consequences?
I think the idea is relatively new to the English speaking world. Horsemeat like any meat varies in quality with the age of the animal and what it has been doing. A 20 yr old cart horse might not taste as good as a 2 yr old colt. But many in an English speaking country ate horse meat if that was available. Soldiers frequently dined on horse. So did the Indians.
I much prefer that we replace the natural predators. Wolves and coyotes go for the easy prey first like the family pets. Venison is delicious. My BIL and sister own 40 acres adjacent to a state park. He sits on his front porch and every year bags two or three deer. Meat for the winter.
If you say so.
No, I did not say that.
perhaps I misunderstood you then. Could you explain what you mean by being an idealogue?
Why brutally deprive an entire industry of its income?
The problem with this is that it ultimately leads to relativism. Some parts of the world view cats and dogs as pets, whilst in other parts of the world (China, for instance) they are viewed as both pets and food. Cows is a better example. The Western world uses cows for beef, yet in India it is revered because of the Hindu religion.
Just because some people make money off of it doesn’t make it right.
Abortion is completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.
I will try. By “idealogue,” I meant one who basically acts on principle rather by accepting the bad and working with it. Obviously, pragmatists are usually more realistic than idealogues. However, I was attempting to make a point by basically saying, “What do pragmatists have left if their efforts backfire?” Idealogues (especially the stubborn ones) typically still have their principles intact if the worst happens.
Do unborn babies have a ‘conscious experience?’
Yes actually, abortion can be irrelevant to many topics. For example, this one. If you feel differently, then please point out exactly what abortion has anything to do with the treament of animals? And I mean actual relevance, not just stating that it’s bad that wildlife is protected, but unborn babies aren’t. Pointing out one evil in society does not justify others. Just because somebody else is a murderer of human beings does not permit somebody else to abuse animals and brutally kill them simply because they think their fur looks pretty on a coat. I’m not defending abortion. I hate it. It’s a horrible thing, and it’s a shame so many people support it. However, that doesn’t make it relevant to every topic.
still a little confused. Are you saying that pragmatists have no principals?
Exactly, we must be good stewards. And that means if you want to raise animals for their fur, or meat they should be treated kindly and killed humanely and their suffering kept to the bare minimum. But is not sinful to raise animals for meat and fur under those standards.