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gurneyhalleck1
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to the OP: I say…IMMORAL
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sfcatholicwoman
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I have seen how they do this in China and the Phillipines and its VERY VERY BARBARIC! The first time I saw it on CNN investigation special, I couldnt sleep all night just visualizing and crying about what I saw!! Cats, Kittens, Dogs, being skinned alive, hung, strangled, electrocuted,drowned in water- all for their fur. It is so cruel and they leave them dying in agony as it takes them several minutes to die and go into complete shock! Unfortunately this happens daily. I think it is truly EVIL and I dont think that God is up in heaven condoning this. Just avoid those stupid jackets that have the faux fur on the hood (most of that really is the dog and cat fur from these countries). I think its a sick world we live in and just think of the day when Jesus comes and no human nor animal will suffer anymore!
You can help by joining organizations like ASPCA, Humane Society of the United States, WSPSA (organization to stop cruelty for animals in other countriese). All these organizations are trying to advocate to stop this inhumane act.
You can help by joining organizations like ASPCA, Humane Society of the United States, WSPSA (organization to stop cruelty for animals in other countriese). All these organizations are trying to advocate to stop this inhumane act.
meltzerboy
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In Jewish Law, hunting animals for sport is forbidden. If hunting is done for human survival, however, it is permissible; however, even in this case, the animal must be killed without brutality. That is why for an animal to be considered “kosher” for consumption, among many other requirements, it must be killed with the sharpest needle available to inflict the least pain.
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Warrior1979
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In that country (as well as several other Asian countries), chances are that the animals aren’t being used just for their fur, but also their meat, bones, and everything else. The Church certainly wouldn’t object to it in that case.
I personally don’t believe in killing anything unless absolutely necessary.
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benidict
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Yeah. your right. This little bugger is too cute to eat. We shall exempt them.
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benidict
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And we wont eat my GF’s cat either. He is way too cute and soft. 
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kbwall
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The animal shelters that PETA speaks out against only kill about half their animals. PETA’s own animal shelters kill something closer to about 90%.
Also, people in PETA have been known to actually break into shelters and kill animals. Animals that would’ve gone to happy and loving families. They see pet ownership as a form of slavery, and believe all animals should be free in the wild. Including those breeds of dogs that have been domesticated for the past couple thousand years to the point where they wouldn’t last a week in the wild.
There’s also the fact that PETA directly supports organizations like the Animal Liberation Front (ALF), which if you didn’t know are domestic terrorists. They’re the kinds of people that break into labs and set all the animals free (and given that these animals are domesticated and don’t stand a chance in the wild, it’s basically the same as indirectly killing the animals).
I really do wish that PETA was just a bunch of harmless tree-huggers and the worst thing they did was cry every time the president swats a fly. But unfortunately they’re actually dangerous.
Not just talking about a lack of sympathy for abortion. PETA is an animal rights group anyway, abortions would be out of their jurisdiction, for lack of better term.
I was talking about the fact that PETA hates all animal testing. It would be understandable if they were at least somewhat reasonable, because sometimes scientists do go way farther than is necessary (especially some cosmetic testing). But no, they’re completely unreasonable about it. They’re even against testing which saves lives. PETA would rather people die rather than receive medications derived from animal testing or animal products. They would rather diabetics die than for insulin to be produced. Which is very hypocritical considering one of the main heads of PETA is a diabetic that needs this insulin to survive. How does she justify this to herself? She’s one of those the-rules-apply-to-everybody-but-me types.
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benidict
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Hello again brother. Is it also written in the law, that the blood of the animal is not to be consumed because, it is the life of the animal? And also that the blood must be poured on the ground? And thirdly, that we are at the last Judgement going to have to give an account of this blood? Peace
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RainbowNight
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I absolutely agree!
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Lost_Wanderer
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Apparently you haven’t stepped on the nice little packages such animals leave on our streets, roads, and sidewalks. Not that I fully condone the brutality but neither do I have any love for dirty askal.
I don’t know. I’ve always said that my cat’s so cute, I could eat him.Yeah. your right. This little bugger is too cute to eat. We shall exempt them.
Om-nom-nom-nom!
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benidict
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Sorry about the packages, but when ya gotta go. You gotta go. Is this a reason for me to end up on your plate? I know im supposed to taste like beef, and I would probably go really good with gravy. but ,CMON!Apparently you haven’t stepped on the nice little packages such animals leave on our streets, roads, and sidewalks. Not that I fully condone the brutality but neither do I have any love for dirty askal.
I don’t know. I’ve always said that my cat’s so cute, I could eat him.
Om-nom-nom-nom!
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Sailor_Kenshin
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It always amazes me that people who profess ‘compassion’ for fur animals have none for the people who make a living in the fur industry.
How will they earn a living? How will they feed their families? Will you personally underwrite their retraining and find them other jobs?
Typical of elitist thinking.
God gave us dominion over the animals. When you place animal ‘welfare’ above the rights of people to work and eat, you are turning His world upside-down.
How will they earn a living? How will they feed their families? Will you personally underwrite their retraining and find them other jobs?
Typical of elitist thinking.
God gave us dominion over the animals. When you place animal ‘welfare’ above the rights of people to work and eat, you are turning His world upside-down.
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Young_Thinker
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Thank you for sharing all of this. I never realized that P.E.T.A. and its associates were that crazy or, shall I say, diabolical.
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Young_Thinker
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That rabbit that you just showed reminds of one that I used to have (she died not long ago). She looked exactly like a hotot (having permanent eyeshadow, for instance). Interestingly, almost none of her immediate family bore that resemblance, looking more like rexes or lionheads.Yeah. your right. This little bugger is too cute to eat. We shall exempt them.
meltzerboy
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Yes, Jewish Law does not permit consuming blood of any animal. Removal of blood is part of the koshering process, together with making sure the animal does not have any kind of disease which would render it unfit for consumption. That is why certain cuts of beef, such as porterhouse and filet mignon, are non-kosher, that is, since they come from the hindquarters, they are most difficult to drain of all blood. I don’t know if the blood must be poured on the ground, however. At the last Judgment, not only an account of the blood is required but an account of how we treated our pets and other animals. According to Jewish custom (not Torah), it is the animals themselves who will testify as to how they were treated by their masters. Another part of the Law states that our pets must be fed first before us and even our children. The justification is that they do not have the reason to delay their gratification the way we do.Hello again brother. Is it also written in the law, that the blood of the animal is not to be consumed because, it is the life of the animal? And also that the blood must be poured on the ground? And thirdly, that we are at the last Judgement going to have to give an account of this blood? Peace
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benidict
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Thank you so much for the part in red. I posted this very teaching on another thread, But I could not back it up, because all my Jewish writings are back home. I am heading there for R+R though in a couple days. I cant wait to get ahold of my books. this is exactly what I thought. This is why Judaism Makes so much more sense sometimes. I have not eaten Any blood products in years, because of the teaching it is the life of the Animal. although perimitted in Catholicism, I see a health danger assosiated with doing such. blood borne pathogens being one. and its just plain Gross on the other hand. Peace Brother.
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benidict
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I will be honest my young friend. I like rabbits for pets too. They are very soft, and very cute. And if its cool outside, they can produce alot of heat! Im glad you can see the humor, and I really do love all animals. I have never had a rabbit for a pet. But I have friends that have. And I do like to hold them and cuddle them.
And I am sorry to hear about your bunny. You sound like a kind hearted person. God bless you. :hug1:
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Young_Thinker
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Thank you. May He bless you, too.I will be honest my young friend. I like rabbits for pets too. They are very soft, and very cute. And if its cool outside, they can produce alot of heat! Im glad you can see the humor, and I really do love all animals. I have never had a rabbit for a pet. But I have friends that have. And I do like to hold them and cuddle them.
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mjakemccoy
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I’m actually in the cattle business and do quite a bit of leather work. There’s certainly something to be said for excesses in fur and food consumption in this country. We should respect all creatures as gifts, and when harvested use these gifts responsibly, from the food we eat to the clothing we have. Grace before meals means a great deal more when you harvested those tomatoes, or killed and butchered that animal yourself, rather than buying processed food in a store. You realize the labor in keeping your body alive and nourished.
Anyone who has worn fur will tell you synthetics can’t compare for warmth. God knew what he was doing when he made animal fur, it is really warm. When I’m working outside in a blizzard, there is no comparison. To let animals die and let the worms eat them when people need coats or food is wasteful and irresponsible, and I’d say immoral.
I ride horses and love the ones I have but I have no hesitations about taking them to the canner when they’re older. They’ve been good to me but what right do I have to rob society of those gifts? I feel I have a responsibility to salvage that animal for the benefit of society, even when I don’t want to. Certainly those animals need to be killed in a humane manner. This country has banned horse slaughter, so those crippled and old horses are being trucked to Canada or Mexico for slaughter where the animals will be harvested for food, make-up, leather, and countless other goods you use every day. This is extremely cruel and abhorable and is due to the lack of common sense in this nation. As Christians we should be more responsible in our actions. We can kill babies in this country but killing horses or dogs is despicable???
Synthetics come from poly blends, alot of those come from petroleum, oil. If we have a responsibility for all creation we certainly need to be thinking about conservation and renewable energy. Fur is renewable, fur is as green as it gets. Battery operated cars have toxic batteries in them. They’re not green, maybe more green than a gas burner, but if you’re going green ride a horse. Fur can naturally decompose. John the Baptist wore fur.
As for people talking about skinning animals alive, I’ve never heard of such a thing. I’ve skinned quite a few, and they’re alot easier to skin once their dead. I’ve never tried skinning one alive, but I’d think it would be alot more work than it was worth. This is the kind of senseless gossip that leads to senseless legislation in this country. Those are some bad references there. God gave us the use of reason, no animal has it, so it’s up to us to use it. Let’s do our part.
Anyone who has worn fur will tell you synthetics can’t compare for warmth. God knew what he was doing when he made animal fur, it is really warm. When I’m working outside in a blizzard, there is no comparison. To let animals die and let the worms eat them when people need coats or food is wasteful and irresponsible, and I’d say immoral.
I ride horses and love the ones I have but I have no hesitations about taking them to the canner when they’re older. They’ve been good to me but what right do I have to rob society of those gifts? I feel I have a responsibility to salvage that animal for the benefit of society, even when I don’t want to. Certainly those animals need to be killed in a humane manner. This country has banned horse slaughter, so those crippled and old horses are being trucked to Canada or Mexico for slaughter where the animals will be harvested for food, make-up, leather, and countless other goods you use every day. This is extremely cruel and abhorable and is due to the lack of common sense in this nation. As Christians we should be more responsible in our actions. We can kill babies in this country but killing horses or dogs is despicable???
Synthetics come from poly blends, alot of those come from petroleum, oil. If we have a responsibility for all creation we certainly need to be thinking about conservation and renewable energy. Fur is renewable, fur is as green as it gets. Battery operated cars have toxic batteries in them. They’re not green, maybe more green than a gas burner, but if you’re going green ride a horse. Fur can naturally decompose. John the Baptist wore fur.
As for people talking about skinning animals alive, I’ve never heard of such a thing. I’ve skinned quite a few, and they’re alot easier to skin once their dead. I’ve never tried skinning one alive, but I’d think it would be alot more work than it was worth. This is the kind of senseless gossip that leads to senseless legislation in this country. Those are some bad references there. God gave us the use of reason, no animal has it, so it’s up to us to use it. Let’s do our part.
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Lost_Wanderer
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My dear foreign friend, that pooch is too sosyal to be an askal breed. This thing on the other hand is yet another reason why my government is too corrupt in that it can’t even fund a decent dog pound to keep this mongrels off the streets. Ugh… >_<;; I wouldn’t even want to eat this! I just want it to stop being one excuse for why I don’t go out much in my neighborhood. T_TSorry about the packages, but when ya gotta go. You gotta go. Is this a reason for me to end up on your plate? I know im supposed to taste like beef, and I would probably go really good with gravy. but ,CMON!
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