Is Using Contraception a Mortal Sin?

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With NFP…what is one doing to render (make…cause) the martial act unfruitful???

Nothing.

One is not even engaging in the martial act!!!

So how can one be doing something to render it intentionally unfruitful??

When one is not even engaging in the marital act?

One is doing nothing to render the act intentionally unfruitful one is simply not engaging in the said act.

PS: one of the main keys is that the MEANS of carrying out the intention not to have a new conception at the moment (say for very good reason-intention) — one cannot use an evil means to do such. One can have a good intention…but the means must be good.

Catechism:

“2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).”
 
Abu, as usual, you get to the core of the issue with your research.

Notice how the quoted Priest mentioned the purely uilitarian argument. The argument for artificial contraception is a purely utilitarian one. Because of that it is anathema to the Catholic doctrine, which is a Natural Law arguement. Some people become confused because the utilitarian argument, which is concerned with consequences only, can sometimes apear to be like the Natural Law arguemnt, because to a certain extent, Natural Law moral ethics also takes notice of xonsequences. However, Natural Law moral reasoning takes into account much more han utilitarianism and it does so by examining the actions and the motives behind them. The Church, rightly, uses the Natural Law arguemnt to show why the artificial contraceptive act is wrong. The wrongness lies within the act itself. The wrongness is intrinsic to the act. The Natural Law argument also demonstrates the consequences of the intrinsically wrong act.

Artificial contraception removes the openess to life that the Church, using its Natural Law moral argument, demonstrates as being essential to a theological and anthropologically successful marriage. Artificial contraception essentially commodifies sex and removes from it the procreational aspect which is an intrinsic aspect of its nature. To do that requires a change in the mindset of the people involved. The mindset naturally includes the very strong posibility of a resultant pregnancy. with that strong possibility removed, the miondset is one of embracing sex for its utility, devoid of responsibility. The responsibility for possible pregnancy in marriage is a shared one. When the possibility of pregnancy is removed, the shared responsibility is also removed and each individual is therefore not accepting of anything other than a selfish pleaure, often then seen as an entitlement. Thus sex becomes a hedonistic pleasure to be sought after and its utility is the resultant pleasure. In a marriage that is open to life, the utility is measured in the openness to life allowing for a sense of shared responsibility. That is what families are founded on. If its utility is measured by the giving of pleasure, with no responsibility, then one cannot condemn prositution, casual sex, or even homosex sex.

The Op and his wife are not open to life. They are not embracing a willingness to share responsibility. That comes through in his subsequent posts. Both he and his wife are placing careers and ‘serving others’ ahead of any willingness to accept responsibility for new life. All it means is that a child between them is down their list of priorities, below academic achievement and ‘helping others’. In the process, they have not been forward looking enough to say, well, if a child eventuates from our union, we can adjust and accomodate it. Instead, they are saying that if a child eventuates from their union, their studies and ‘helping others’ will be compromised. to avoid that compromisation, they have closed themselves to the posibility of life.

It would be consistent with their priorities and with their unwillingness to have those priorities compromised to have an abortion should a child accidentally eventuate. Of course, that will strike horror into the mind of the OP, but that is the slippery slope he and his wife are on. They put themselves there by telling themselves that a child is not a priority over academic and other social pursuits and they are closing off the possibility of new life in order that those priorities should be so.

If NFP is used continuously to avoid the possibilty of new life, then it too is a misuse of the natural functions of the human body and becomes just another convenient form of contraception. NFP is compromised as a tool for regulating the arrival of new life according to the prudent judgement of circumstances. NFP does not contain the intrinsic wrongness of artificial contraception, but its prolonged use results in a compromised attitude to being open to life and of a willingness to accept a shared responsibility. It relegates the role of sex in marriage to being one of pleasure only, with pleasure its measure of utility. That is a sin against the very nature of the sacrament of marriage.
I agree with your last paragraph…however, I donly agree with the idea that using contraception is evil. Once again, the condom and NFP both have the same goal in mind. So why shouldn’t condoms be used in the very circumstances the Church outlines as valid uses of NFP?

Additionally you say I am “not being open to life.” Yet I am being EXACTLY as open as ANYONE using NFP! You make it sound like people use NFP for a reason other than avoiding having children and that is not true. 100% of people use NFP to avoid having children…maybe temporarily, but ALWAYS to avoid having children. That is the whole purpose behind NFP, its use, and the scientific research behind it. The development of NFP starts with the question, “How can we scientifically show when a good time to have sex is without procreating?” That is precisely the kind of “evil” so many on this forum claim they are arguing against. Once again, can someone please give me ONE REASON why a couple would use NFP other than to avoid having children??? Just one reason. It’s impossible.

You are confusing the argument of WHY people should or shouldn’t have kids with HOW people should avoid having kids.
 
With NFP…what is one doing to render (make…cause) the martial act unfruitful???

Nothing.

One is not even engaging in the martial act!!!

So how can one be doing something to render it intentionally unfruitful??

When one is not even engaging in the marital act?

One is doing nothing to render the act intentionally unfruitful one is simply not engaging in the said act.

PS: one of the main keys is that the MEANS of carrying out the intention not to have a new conception at the moment (say for very good reason-intention) — one cannot use an evil means to do such. One can have a good intention (again a person following NFP and a person using Contraception could have the same good intention)…but the means must be good.

Catechism:

“2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).”
 
And once again, I don’t appreciate the general negative attitude toward my reasons for not wanting kids right now. I can’t believe that so many of you would rather have another child than another doctor RIGHT NOW…Of course at some point we will have a kid, but this may be the ONLY chance my wife has to be a doctor…it makes no sense to pass that up, and the opportunity to save lifes, in order to create one more life right now instead of just waiting until she has a medical degree. It’s just astounding.
 
And once again, I don’t appreciate the general negative attitude toward my reasons for not wanting kids right now. I can’t believe that so many of you would rather have another child than another doctor RIGHT NOW…Of course at some point we will have a kid, but this may be the ONLY chance my wife has to be a doctor…it makes no sense to pass that up, and the opportunity to save lifes, in order to create one more life right now instead of just waiting until she has a medical degree. It’s just astounding.
Various reasons come up in life …financial reasons, psychological reasons, health reasons, etc etc (and once one gets into the contingent aspects of life -I imagine a new “example” appears daily)…

Compendium on Social Doctrine issue by Pope (BL) John Paul II

“232. The family contributes to the social good in an eminent fashion through responsible motherhood and fatherhood, the spouses’ special participation in God’s work of creation[519]. The weight of this responsibility must not be used as a justification for being selfishly closed but must guide the decisions of the spouses in a generous acceptance of life. “In relation to physical, economic, psychological and social conditions, responsible parenthood is exercised both in the duly pondered and generous decision to have a large family, and in the decision, made for serious reasons and in respect of the moral law, to avoid for a time or even indeterminately a new birth”[520]. The motivations that should guide the couple in exercising responsible motherhood and fatherhood originate in the full recognition of their duties towards God, towards themselves, towards the family and towards society in a proper hierarchy of values.”

“234. The judgment concerning the interval of time between births, and that regarding the number of children, belongs to the spouses alone. This is one of their inalienable rights, to be exercised before God with due consideration of their obligations towards themselves, their children already born, the family and society [528]. The intervention of public authorities within the limits of their competence to provide information and enact suitable measures in the area of demographics must be made in a way that fully respects the persons and the freedom of the couple. Such intervention may never become a substitute for their decisions[529]. All the more must various organizations active in this area refrain from doing the same.”

vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html#The%20family%20is%20the%20sanctuary%20of%20life
 
With NFP…what is one doing to render (make…cause) the martial act unfruitful???

Nothing.

One is not even engaging in the martial act!!!

So how can one be doing something to render it intentionally unfruitful??

When one is not even engaging in the marital act?

One is doing nothing to render the act intentionally unfruitful one is simply not engaging in the said act.

PS: one of the main keys is that the MEANS of carrying out the intention not to have a new conception at the moment (say for very good reason-intention) — one cannot use an evil means to do such. One can have a good intention (again a person following NFP and a person using Contraception could have the same good intention)…but the means must be good.

Catechism:

“2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).”
Are you kidding? What is one doing to render the “marital act” unfruitful? That’s an easy question…Researching, studying, planning, and doing all that is possible to AVOID having a child while still being able to have sex. That is PRECISELY what one is doing when using NFP. The entire scientific study behind NFP is designed to purposely avoid having a child, thus making sex “UNFRUITFUL” deliberately.

If you want to argue that sex with a condom is not even a marital act than I can disagree with you, but that position at least has more merit than the idea that doing everything possible to only have sex when pregnancy is not possible is still a procreative act. The very definition of “PROCREATIVE” is to produce life. The very PURPOSE of NFP is to avoid that very procreative purpose of sex!
 
With NFP…what is one doing to render (make…cause) the martial act unfruitful???

Nothing.

One is not even engaging in the martial act!!!

So how can one be doing something to render it intentionally unfruitful??

When one is not even engaging in the marital act?

One is doing nothing to render the act intentionally unfruitful one is simply not engaging in the said act.

PS: one of the main keys is that the MEANS of carrying out the intention not to have a new conception at the moment (say for very good reason-intention) — one cannot use an evil means to do such. One can have a good intention (again a person following NFP and a person using Contraception could have the same good intention)…but the means must be good.

Catechism:

“2399 The regulation of births represents one of the aspects of responsible fatherhood and motherhood. Legitimate intentions on the part of the spouses do not justify recourse to morally unacceptable means (for example, direct sterilization or contraception).”
 
Are you kidding? What is one doing to render the “marital act” unfruitful? That’s an easy question…Researching, studying, planning, and doing all that is possible to AVOID having a child while still being able to have sex. That is PRECISELY what one is doing when using NFP. The entire scientific study behind NFP is designed to purposely avoid having a child, thus making sex “UNFRUITFUL” deliberately.
Nope one is not doing ANYTHING TO CAUSE THE MARITAL ACT TO BECOME UNFRUITFUL.

This is an important distinction. In contraception the persons do something to make one infertile…they attack the healthy reproductive system or frustrate it. With NFP they do NOTHING to the reproductive system…

Please get that book.
 
And once again, I don’t appreciate the general negative attitude toward my reasons for not wanting kids right now. I can’t believe that so many of you would rather have another child than another doctor RIGHT NOW…Of course at some point we will have a kid, but this may be the ONLY chance my wife has to be a doctor…it makes no sense to pass that up, and the opportunity to save lifes, in order to create one more life right now instead of just waiting until she has a medical degree. It’s just astounding.
Various reasons come up in life …financial reasons, psychological reasons, health reasons, etc etc (and once one gets into the contingent aspects of life -I imagine a new “example” appears daily)…

Compendium on Social Doctrine issue by Pope (BL) John Paul II

“232. The family contributes to the social good in an eminent fashion through responsible motherhood and fatherhood, the spouses’ special participation in God’s work of creation[519]. The weight of this responsibility must not be used as a justification for being selfishly closed but must guide the decisions of the spouses in a generous acceptance of life. “In relation to physical, economic, psychological and social conditions, responsible parenthood is exercised both in the duly pondered and generous decision to have a large family, and in the decision, made for serious reasons and in respect of the moral law, to avoid for a time or even indeterminately a new birth”[520]. The motivations that should guide the couple in exercising responsible motherhood and fatherhood originate in the full recognition of their duties towards God, towards themselves, towards the family and towards society in a proper hierarchy of values.”

“234. The judgment concerning the interval of time between births, and that regarding the number of children, belongs to the spouses alone. This is one of their inalienable rights, to be exercised before God with due consideration of their obligations towards themselves, their children already born, the family and society [528]. The intervention of public authorities within the limits of their competence to provide information and enact suitable measures in the area of demographics must be made in a way that fully respects the persons and the freedom of the couple. Such intervention may never become a substitute for their decisions[529]. All the more must various organizations active in this area refrain from doing the same.”.

vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/justpeace/documents/rc_pc_justpeace_doc_20060526_compendio-dott-soc_en.html#The%20family%20is%20the%20sanctuary%20of%20life
 
I suppose what is most frustrating and saddening really is that I feel like I won’t have the opportunity to engage Christ with the Holy Eucharist so long as I continue to choose to have sex within my marriage without producing a child…UNLESS I only have sex based on when my wife is not fertile under NFP, a system I believe to contradict what the Church is teaching about contraception…It’s very frustrating. I do appreciate everyone’s advice and guidance though. As always, I will pray on the matter and the issues presented here.
Yes, that is true. You should not take the Eucharist.

If you believe that NPF is evil, and abstaining for parts of the month, then I direct you again to the formation of true moral conscience because that is not what the Church teaches – that NFP is evil. Thinking that condoms have “merit” indicates that you have not studied to form that true moral conscience. Equating abstinence during times of the months and then equating that with causing the act, that you are not committing, as being unfruitful is an erroneous conclusion because it’s not what the Church teaches. Rationalizing is not forming a true moral conscience.

I posted the link in #21 and it does take several readings to understand how we form our TRUE moral conscience. It’s not simply “I believe otherwise” or “I think the Church is wrong” – it’s a study process of the Church’s teachings and self examination by first living it.

"Conscience is a messenger of Him, who, both in nature and in grace, speaks to us behind a veil, and teaches and rules us by his representatives. Conscience is the aboriginal Vicar of Christ." John Henry Cardinal Newman, “Letter to the Duke of Norfolk,” V, in Certain Difficulties felt by Anglicans in Catholic Teaching II (London: Longmans Green, 1885), 248).

Cat.1794 A good and pure conscience is enlightened by true faith, for charity proceeds at the same time "from a pure heart and a good conscience and sincere faith."


God Bless.
 
@jinc: oh boy, where to start.

One, regarding discernment. I see you did not ask for advice on discernment about postponing pregnancy. Bookcat has given you all the links. I agree that no posters should be commenting about you & your bride’s decision to postpone pregnancy. The couple is to prayerfully discern to what God is calling you, your responsiblities to your spouse and existing family, and to society. Significantly, God entrusts this discernment to the couple. So, as long as you are confident that you are doing what God is calling you to do, through an ongoing discernment process, you are living consistently with what the Church teaches. FWIW, I think finishing education could indeed be a serious reason to postpone, although again, my two cents doesn’t really count as applied to your individual situation. I do think NFP could be more challenging for you and your bride due to high stress levels, poor sleep/nutrition, etc., but not impossible by any means.

A few from your second post: you consistently define a baby as a “risk.” Is that really the vocabulary you want to use, counselor, to describe a new life with a new immortal soul that God is co-creating with you?

“sex on a schedule wouldn’t work” - - how could you know this until you tried?

“logic behind ABC & NFP the same”: yes and no. Yes, if the couple has serious reasons to postpone, then yes, the reasons are the same. The means, of course, are different, and that is a big difference. One way is consistent with our creation by God, another works to thwart it. From another angle, TOB-style: our creation as male and female, both, is in the image and likeness of our trinitarian God, the eternal exchange of love between the Father and Son, the Father eternally giving Himself to the Son, the Son receiving and reciprocating that love, in a manner so real that it is the Holy Ghost. In our very bodies we have a clue to the nature of God’s love, and most fully in the sexual embrace. If you can find a way to reconcile putting a piece of latex on, or chemically sterilizing oneself, with that image of Trinitarian love, let me know.

“no difference in my opinion”: and where, exactly, was your individual discernment assured of being correct? I am not trying to be harsh, but if you say A, and two encyclicals in the last 100 years say B, the teaching ot the Church since the beginning says B, why should we assume the Church is wrong and you are right? You may also want to review deb123’s thread from a few days ago about conscience questions and Church teaching, in which Bookcat provided tons of links on conscience evaluation.

Moving on, it appears you are getting hung up on “open to life”, and that is understandable. That phrase is a shorthand euphemism for all the Church teaches; however, it is not what the Church teaches, and it quickly becomes imprecise. The Chuch teaches that each act of marital intercourse must be ordered to procreation, meaning done in the manner that if the parties are fertile, a child could result. Otherwise post-menopausal women, pregnant women, and naturally infertile couples could not have sex licitly.

Similarly, the gathering of information for NFP does not “render” intercourse sterile. Female fertility waxes and wanes per God’s design, over time. Making use of that knowledge can licit or not depending on the reasons advanced for postponing, which takes us full circle back to my first paragraph to you.
 
Pope Paul VI in Humanae Vitae, 1968 (14) proclaimed, “Similarly excluded is every action which, either in anticipation of the conjugal act or in its accomplishment or in the development of its natural consequences, would have as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible.”
Doesn’t this line exclude NFP as well? :confused:
 
And once again, I don’t appreciate the general negative attitude toward my reasons for not wanting kids right now. I can’t believe that so many of you would rather have another child than another doctor RIGHT NOW…Of course at some point we will have a kid, but this may be the ONLY chance my wife has to be a doctor…it makes no sense to pass that up, and the opportunity to save lifes, in order to create one more life right now instead of just waiting until she has a medical degree. It’s just astounding.
If anyone here tries to give you a hard time for avoiding children at this point in your life, just ignore them.

It is absolutely 0% none of their business, and you don’t owe any sort of explanation to them. Such matters are between your spouse and God. Outsiders need not and should not try to tell you (a stranger online) that you should be having kids right now.

Just ignore them.
 
Doesn’t this line exclude NFP as well? :confused:
no.

Such is referring to things that say kill the sperm etc after the fact…or even kill the child (sadly some do that too…)

NFP does NOTHING to “render” (make…cause) the marital act to be infertile etc.
 
One, regarding discernment. I see you did not ask for advice on discernment about postponing pregnancy. Bookcat has given you all the links. I agree that no posters should be commenting about you & your bride’s decision to postpone pregnancy. The couple is to prayerfully discern to what God is calling you, your responsiblities to your spouse and existing family, and to society. Significantly, God entrusts this discernment to the couple. So, as long as you are confident that you are doing what God is calling you to do, through an ongoing discernment process, you are living consistently with what the Church teaches. FWIW, I think finishing education could indeed be a serious reason to postpone, although again, my two cents doesn’t really count as applied to your individual situation.
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Just want to draw a distinction using some legalese for our budding young lawyer:
  1. We must be open to life. (Mens rea)
  2. We cannot distort or deny the procreative nature the act. (Actus reus)
Contraception, by definition, physically distorts and denies the procreative element of the act. NFP does not. NFP can still be sinful, with a sinful mental state, but it is not sinful per se, unlike contraception.

Make sense?

So NFP isn’t always right, but contraception is always wrong.*

(*Without taking into consideration justifications, such as medicinal purposes.)
 
no.

Such is referring to things that say kill the sperm etc after the fact…or even kill the child (sadly some do that too…)

NFP does NOTHING to “render” (make…cause) the marital act to be infertile etc.
I am confused.

The quote doesn’t say anything about killing the sperm or killing the child. It simply speaks of “an action that would render procreation impossible.”

See below:

“Similarly excluded is every action which, either in anticipation of the conjugal act or in its accomplishment or in the development of its natural consequences, would have as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible.

See? No specifications about killing anyone or anything.

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I am confused.

The quote doesn’t say anything about killing the sperm or killing the child. It simply speaks of “an action that would render procreation impossible.”

See below:

“Similarly excluded is every action which, either in anticipation of the conjugal act or in its accomplishment or in the development of its natural consequences, would have as an end or as a means, to render procreation impossible.

See? No specifications about killing anyone or anything.

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Recourse to Infertile Periods
  1. Now as We noted earlier (no. 3), some people today raise the objection against this particular doctrine of the Church concerning the moral laws governing marriage, that human intelligence has both the right and responsibility to control those forces of irrational nature which come within its ambit and to direct them toward ends beneficial to man. Others ask on the same point whether it is not reasonable in so many cases to use artificial birth control if by so doing the harmony and peace of a family are better served and more suitable conditions are provided for the education of children already born. To this question We must give a clear reply. The Church is the first to praise and commend the application of human intelligence to an activity in which a rational creature such as man is so closely associated with his Creator. But she affirms that this must be done within the limits of the order of reality established by God.
If therefore there are well-grounded reasons for spacing births, arising from the physical or psychological condition of husband or wife, or from external circumstances, the Church teaches that married people may then take advantage of the natural cycles immanent in the reproductive system and engage in marital intercourse only during those times that are infertile, thus controlling birth in a way which does not in the least offend the moral principles which We have just explained. (20)
Neither the Church nor her doctrine is inconsistent when she considers it lawful for married people to take advantage of the infertile period but condemns as always unlawful the use of means which directly prevent conception, even when the reasons given for the later practice may appear to be upright and serious. In reality, these two cases are completely different. In the former the married couple rightly use a faculty provided them by nature. In the later they obstruct the natural development of the generative process. It cannot be denied that in each case the married couple, for acceptable reasons, are both perfectly clear in their intention to avoid children and wish to make sure that none will result. But it is equally true that it is exclusively in the former case that husband and wife are ready to abstain from intercourse during the fertile period as often as for reasonable motives the birth of another child is not desirable. And when the infertile period recurs, they use their married intimacy to express their mutual love and safeguard their fidelity toward one another. In doing this they certainly give proof of a true and authentic love.
 
… but contraception is always wrong.*

(*Without taking into consideration justifications, such as medicinal purposes.)
A little twique here…there is no “justifications” for using “contraception” for medical purposes… one is not “contracepting” one is taking a pill that has an unintended side effect …it is a different moral object --a different thing here entirely.

You were correct to simply leave it as stated for: “Contraception” remains “always wrong”…

(we can too note that many would say they need to abstain in such cases due to the potential abortive effect of such…I would add that a person ought to contact the Paul VI institute for there are better ways to address the problems one would take that pill for…but this is all an aside here not to derail the thread)
 
Just want to draw a distinction using some legalese for our budding young lawyer:
  1. We must be open to life. (Mens rea)
  2. We cannot distort or deny the procreative nature the act. (Actus reus)
Contraception, by definition, physically distorts and denies the procreative element of the act. NFP does not. NFP can still be sinful, with a sinful mental state, but it is not sinful per se, unlike contraception.

Make sense?

So NFP isn’t always right, but contraception is always wrong.*

(*Without taking into consideration justifications, such as medicinal purposes.)
This is my point…NFP is NOT open to life.
 
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