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CelticCatholic
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Does anyone know what the muslim stance of divorce is? Or is it like Christianity ie it depends what church you are in?
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meedo
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Devorce is allowed in Islam but its a complicated matter.
I mean In Islam sometimes devorce is
1- Prohibited
2- frowned upon
3- allowed
4- encouraged
5- Mandatory
Each depends on the case. But generally if satan manages to make a crack in the family then he has done a great victory forhimself. The worst thing that can happena nd the mother of most evils is family breaking.
In Islam it is discouraged and is punishable on Judgement day if any of the spouses take separation easily. I mean it is not a game they can play. Its only allowed if life become impossible. Only them however can make this decision and they are responsible for it . However there should be reconciliation meeting between judges one from her family and one from his family that Judge between the spouses and try to reconcile.
If a woman would like to initiate a devorce for no particular reason that can be attributed to her husband then its still allowed . In this case this process ts called Khulu . She gives him back the dowry he gave her before marriages and he is compelled to profess devorce word. If he doesnt the judge devorces her. However she will face God on judgement day if she did that wrecklessly.
In short , the islamic stance is that we dont hold any body against his will . Nor we intervene in assessing whats best for their families or spirituality or happiness or level of faith. But there is a procedure of consultation to try every means possible to keep the family intact. But at the end of the day Every man or woman will face their creator for their decisions and their consequences.
Peace
meedo
I mean In Islam sometimes devorce is
1- Prohibited
2- frowned upon
3- allowed
4- encouraged
5- Mandatory
Each depends on the case. But generally if satan manages to make a crack in the family then he has done a great victory forhimself. The worst thing that can happena nd the mother of most evils is family breaking.
In Islam it is discouraged and is punishable on Judgement day if any of the spouses take separation easily. I mean it is not a game they can play. Its only allowed if life become impossible. Only them however can make this decision and they are responsible for it . However there should be reconciliation meeting between judges one from her family and one from his family that Judge between the spouses and try to reconcile.
If a woman would like to initiate a devorce for no particular reason that can be attributed to her husband then its still allowed . In this case this process ts called Khulu . She gives him back the dowry he gave her before marriages and he is compelled to profess devorce word. If he doesnt the judge devorces her. However she will face God on judgement day if she did that wrecklessly.
In short , the islamic stance is that we dont hold any body against his will . Nor we intervene in assessing whats best for their families or spirituality or happiness or level of faith. But there is a procedure of consultation to try every means possible to keep the family intact. But at the end of the day Every man or woman will face their creator for their decisions and their consequences.
Peace
meedo
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Forest-Pine
Guest
Meedo,
When is divorce encouraged or mandatory?
In Islam, can other people (like a judge or parents) proclaim a divorce if the couple does not want to divorce? I mean by this, that if some situation is present and a divorce is mandatory, but the couple does not want to divorce, does another person have the power to divorce them beyond their will?
When is divorce encouraged or mandatory?
In Islam, can other people (like a judge or parents) proclaim a divorce if the couple does not want to divorce? I mean by this, that if some situation is present and a divorce is mandatory, but the couple does not want to divorce, does another person have the power to divorce them beyond their will?
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meedo
Guest
“”""""""When is divorce encouraged or mandatory?
In Islam, can other people (like a judge or parents) proclaim a divorce if the couple does not want to divorce? I mean by this, that if some situation is present and a divorce is mandatory, but the couple does not want to divorce, does another person have the power to divorce them beyond their will?"""""""""""""
devorce ios encouraged when one of the spouses is of immoral behavious that can render the relationship in a worse state through cheating or forexample not practicing Islam at all even in the basics like praying or fasting .
Mandatory : Is the devorce through a Judge . Forexample a husband who abuses his wife but would refuse to devorce her . In teh same time she cannot forsake her monetary rights for alimony and dowry and stuff like that to do Khulu process. Then the Judge issues a decree of devorce for the lady with all her financial rights intact and this is an enforced devorce that the Husband cant contest . For teh Husband its mandatory .
Another kind of mandatory is when the Husband becomes a non muslim Then the devorce is mandatory . as a muslim woman cant marry a non muslim. originally if a muslim women chooses to stay with a non muslim husband then its a sin for her but she is still a muslim.
The issue of enforcing the separation Physically is somthing that is not really discussed in Islam as it is assumed that the muslim would obey . usually i never heared of it .
peace
In Islam, can other people (like a judge or parents) proclaim a divorce if the couple does not want to divorce? I mean by this, that if some situation is present and a divorce is mandatory, but the couple does not want to divorce, does another person have the power to divorce them beyond their will?"""""""""""""
devorce ios encouraged when one of the spouses is of immoral behavious that can render the relationship in a worse state through cheating or forexample not practicing Islam at all even in the basics like praying or fasting .
Mandatory : Is the devorce through a Judge . Forexample a husband who abuses his wife but would refuse to devorce her . In teh same time she cannot forsake her monetary rights for alimony and dowry and stuff like that to do Khulu process. Then the Judge issues a decree of devorce for the lady with all her financial rights intact and this is an enforced devorce that the Husband cant contest . For teh Husband its mandatory .
Another kind of mandatory is when the Husband becomes a non muslim Then the devorce is mandatory . as a muslim woman cant marry a non muslim. originally if a muslim women chooses to stay with a non muslim husband then its a sin for her but she is still a muslim.
The issue of enforcing the separation Physically is somthing that is not really discussed in Islam as it is assumed that the muslim would obey . usually i never heared of it .
peace
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Forest-Pine
Guest
Interesting! So if a man converts to Christianity, a judge will enter a decree of divorce and end his marriage. What does this do to the wife and children? Are they recognized in the law? Also, does it affect any property he owns?
Assuming still that the couple does not want to seperate, what rights would the extended family have over the woman and children?
(Thanks for answering!)
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meedo
Guest
“”“Interesting! So if a man converts to Christianity, a judge will enter a decree of divorce and end his marriage. What does this do to the wife and children? “””
There is no islamic state now so now one knows. As i told you the matter of enforcing the law i have never seen . I have seen as much as a Judge decree. Yes this is recognized in Egyptian law but this doesnt affect any property the man owns at all. There is no thing as to take anyones property. However he will be liable to devorce financial rights to his wife.
“”"“Assuming still that the couple does not want to seperate, what rights would the extended family have over the woman and children?”"""
The extended family have no rights here. what brings them in ? Teh lady who wishes to live with a non muslim is sinning against God however she is still a muslim.
To tell you the truth , this rarely happens if not at all . I have heared of ONE ruling like this. However teh Husband insists he is still a muslim ( he was considered to have a certain heretic writing and not converted into anything) His wife believes he is a muslim and they are boith living as muslims.
This was 10 years ago or somthing
(Thanks for answering!)
any time brother
Peace
There is no islamic state now so now one knows. As i told you the matter of enforcing the law i have never seen . I have seen as much as a Judge decree. Yes this is recognized in Egyptian law but this doesnt affect any property the man owns at all. There is no thing as to take anyones property. However he will be liable to devorce financial rights to his wife.
“”"“Assuming still that the couple does not want to seperate, what rights would the extended family have over the woman and children?”"""
The extended family have no rights here. what brings them in ? Teh lady who wishes to live with a non muslim is sinning against God however she is still a muslim.
To tell you the truth , this rarely happens if not at all . I have heared of ONE ruling like this. However teh Husband insists he is still a muslim ( he was considered to have a certain heretic writing and not converted into anything) His wife believes he is a muslim and they are boith living as muslims.
This was 10 years ago or somthing
(Thanks for answering!)
any time brother
Peace
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Forest-Pine
Guest
I know of a second. A friend of mine was married as a Moslem to a Moslem. I do not know much at all about what happened, which is why I asked.
He later converted to Christianity. It was my understanding that they somehow were divorced, even though neither of them wanted to be.
The extended family apparently then attempted to kill him and kidnap the kiddos, causing them to flee the country.
As I know so very little, and do not know much about Islam, I thought I would take the opportunity to ask you and maybe understand it a bit better.
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meedo
Guest
well then thats somthing emotional and personal but i dont know it as a ruling or law. which country as that btw?
Thanks
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Forest-Pine
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I’d better not say. Don’t want anyone to actually know who I am talking about if they came across this page.
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