Islam and violence?

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Kaninchen said:
Hey, little lady, you need to watch out for your apostrophes.
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Oh my, the way you say ā€œlittle ladyā€ā€¦its like being female is a very bad thing. Folks like you belong in Saudi Arabia. šŸ˜ƒ
Kaninchen said:
Hey girl, Iā€™d never do that to somebody so obviously foreign to actually knowing something about a subject.
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tsk tsk tsk.
 
AgnosTheist said:
Oh my, the way you say ā€œlittle ladyā€ā€¦its like being female is a very bad thing. Folks like you belong in Saudi Arabia. šŸ˜ƒ
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Iā€™m not surprised that somebody like you thinks that a woman belongs in Saudi, where Iā€™d not be able to answer back.
 
Kaninchen said:
Iā€™m not surprised that somebody like you thinks that a woman belongs in Saudi, where Iā€™d not be able to answer back.
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oh my, if youre a female yourself, that makes you much worst. a self hater. yeah you do belong in saudi arabia where ā€œlittle ladiesā€ are not trusted to drive cars or to go out alone.
 
AgnosTheist said:
tsk tsk tsk.
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Youā€™re quite good at ā€˜imaginative historyā€™, Iā€™ll give you that.

Anyway, better break off from the mutual insulting before weā€™re moderated (me, anyway, it being a Catholic board).
 
Kaninchen said:
Iā€™m not surprised that somebody like you thinks that a woman belongs in Saudi, where Iā€™d not be able to answer back.
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oh my, if youre a female yourself, that makes you much worst. a self hater. yeah you do belong in saudi arabia where ā€œlittle ladiesā€ are not trusted to drive cars or to go out alone.,
 
AgnosTheist said:
oh my, if youre a female yourself, that makes you much worst. a self hater. yeah you do belong in saudi arabia where ā€œlittle ladiesā€ are not trusted to drive cars or to go out alone.
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You started it by using male pronouns for me, with added macho, my comments were in response to that.
 
Kaninchen said:
You started it by using male pronouns for me, with added macho, my comments were in response to that.
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You have only yourself to blame for using a boyish name. And that is no excuse for referring to females in a demeaning manner. You should be ashamed of yourself.
 
AgnosTheist said:
You have only yourself to blame for using a boyish name. And that is no excuse for referring to females in a demeaning manner. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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ā€˜Rabbitā€™ is a boyish name? Wow!

Iā€™m ashamed of having taken you seriously in the first place.
 
Sister_Amy said:
Way to go, making stuff up! Iā€™m sure all the other readers are dubiously impressed, however I am not.

It is not okay to kill them. Thatā€™s what the Qurā€™an saysā€“that itā€™s not okay to kill them. Help is offered not on the condition that they convert, only on the condition that they stop fighting. šŸ‘
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Please donot get idea what The Quran Sharif say so. It is very hard to understand its meaning.And only those person can understand it who studies it by Alim(knowledger). Few verses which i know i will tell you about it.Its hard to quote and than tell you.I will say so in a paragraph and than you will try to find out and relate to it.But you need to be Sixth Sense and know the history of islam to recognized what The Holy Quran is all about. Please see the movie ā€œThe Messengerā€.

In some verses as its mentioned they talk about to fight with the unbeliever.and The Quran told us about that time people who reject and violent with Prophet Muhammad followers than angel Gabrieal or Jibreel came with verses from Allah/God and allowed to fight with them.Coz they are steal and killing there followers family and house.Prophet Muhammad PBUH didnā€™t tell to fight untill the verses come from Jibreel/Gabriel(angle).What ever Prophet Muhammad said or do its not from him its from Allah/God the one and only Allah/God. I hope i clear your answer.halaluiya oopss.Astagfirullah (God forgive me).i hope you get the idea about The Quran Sharif. Believe me its cool Religion.One of the fast growing religion.And donot think about verses from The Quran and say so you have to be a scholar and know about Islam history.Bye Byeā€¦

Strong Sis Amy in your faithā€¦
 
tomshaikh said:
Please donot get idea what The Quran Sharif say so. It is very hard to understand its meaning.And only those person can understand it who studies it by Alim(knowledger). Few verses which i know i will tell you about it.Its hard to quote and than tell you.I will say so in a paragraph and than you will try to find out and relate to it.But you need to be Sixth Sense and know the history of islam to recognized what The Holy Quran is all about. Please see the movie ā€œThe Messengerā€.

In some verses as its mentioned they talk about to fight with the unbeliever.and The Quran told us about that time people who reject and violent with Prophet Muhammad followers than angel Gabrieal or Jibreel came with verses from Allah/God and allowed to fight with them.Coz they are steal and killing there followers family and house.Prophet Muhammad PBUH didnā€™t tell to fight untill the verses come from Jibreel/Gabriel(angle).What ever Prophet Muhammad said or do its not from him its from Allah/God the one and only Allah/God. I hope i clear your answer.halaluiya oopss.Astagfirullah (God forgive me).i hope you get the idea about The Quran Sharif. Believe me its cool Religion.One of the fast growing religion.And donot think about verses from The Quran and say so you have to be a scholar and know about Islam history.Bye Byeā€¦
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I suppose you are right. The Koran, like the Bible can be hard to understand. So letā€™s look at how Muslims have actually behaved.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4684652.stm
news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/guides/457000/457031/html/default.stm
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4661059.stm
deremilitari.org/resources/articles/markham.htm
islam-watch.org/HistoryOfJihad/Jihad-Serbs-Croats-Albanians.htm

Now here is a list of links for Islamic charities that provide international assistance to non-Muslims without requiring them to first convert to Islam.

(Well, that is a short list.)

Here is a list of countries which, since 1200 AD have outlawed or restricted Muslims from worship. Note that some of these countries may permit Muslim worship now.
Spain (no longer in force)
Serbia (no longer in force)
Greece (no longer in force)
China (permitted with restrictions)
N. Korea

Here is a partial list of Cathtolic Charities which will provide international assistance to non-Catholics without requiring them to convert to the Catholic Church.
Catholic Relief Services: crs.org/
Catholic Charities: ccstl.org/
And every other Catholic based charity.

Here is a partial list of countries which outlaw or restrict Christian worship.
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Iran
Bahrain
Kuwait
United Arab Emirates
Indonesia
Pakistan
Afghanistan
Syria
Libya
Chad
Sudan
Somalia (currently in state of anarchy)
China (permitted with restrictions)
N. Korea
Tunisia
Algeria
Morocco
Myanmar
Bangladesh
Mongolia
Kazakhstan
Turkmenistan
Kirghistan
Oman
Jordan

Only a few of these countries are not officially Muslim.
 
rpp said:
I suppose you are right. The Koran, like the Bible can be hard to understand. So letā€™s look at how Muslims have actually behaved.

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4684652.stm
news.bbc.co.uk/2/shared/spl/hi/guides/457000/457031/html/default.stm
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4661059.stm
deremilitari.org/resources/articles/markham.htm
islam-watch.org/HistoryOfJihad/Jihad-Serbs-Croats-Albanians.htm

Now here is a list of links for Islamic charities that provide international assistance to non-Muslims without requiring them to first convert to Islam.

(Well, that is a short list.)

Here is a list of countries which, since 1200 AD have outlawed or restricted Muslims from worship. Note that some of these countries may permit Muslim worship now.
Spain (no longer in force)
Serbia (no longer in force)
Greece (no longer in force)
China (permitted with restrictions)
N. Korea

Here is a partial list of Cathtolic Charities which will provide international assistance to non-Catholics without requiring them to convert to the Catholic Church.
Catholic Relief Services: crs.org/
Catholic Charities: ccstl.org/
And every other Catholic based charity.

Here is a partial list of countries which outlaw or restrict Christian worship.
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Iran
Bahrain
Kuwait
United Arab Emirates
Indonesia
Pakistan
Afghanistan
Syria
Libya
Chad
Sudan
Somalia (currently in state of anarchy)
China (permitted with restrictions)
N. Korea
Tunisia
Algeria
Morocco
Myanmar
Bangladesh
Mongolia
Kazakhstan
Turkmenistan
Kirghistan
Oman
Jordan

Only a few of these countries are not officially Muslim.
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Hello There,

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tomshaikh said:
Please donot get idea what The Quran Sharif say so. It is very hard to understand its meaning.And only those person can understand it who studies it by Alim(knowledger).
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So the 80% of muslims world wide who do not speak Arabic and those Arabs who do not know classical Arabic do not understand their qurans? If they have to rely on these ā€œknowledgersā€ how do they know they are being told the truth?

It is different in Christianity. The Truth of God is accessible to everyone up to their own ability. Actually the idea that there are hidden meanings accessible only to a few is an early Christian heresy called Gnosticism. I guess that is another heresy that islam is based on.
 
thedavidwilson said:
So the 80% of muslims world wide who do not speak Arabic and those Arabs who do not know classical Arabic do not understand their qurans? If they have to rely on these ā€œknowledgersā€ how do they know they are being told the truth?

It is different in Christianity. The Truth of God is accessible to everyone up to their own ability. Actually the idea that there are hidden meanings accessible only to a few is an early Christian heresy called Gnosticism. I guess that is another heresy that islam is based on.
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Dear David,šŸ™‚

I quoted this signature for NON-MUSLIMS.Many muslims know their religion very well.{Thats preaches peace(Salaam)}.Some are extremist.Thats why i quote this signature for NON-MUSLIMS & Extremist Muslims. May Allah/God guides us to the truth.Ameen
 
tomshaikh said:
Dear David,šŸ™‚

I quoted this signature for NON-MUSLIMS.Many muslims know their religion very well.{Thats preaches peace(Salaam)}.Some are extremist.Thats why i quote this signature for NON-MUSLIMS & Extremist Muslims. May Allah/God guides us to the truth.Ameen
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I judge the tree by its fruit, Tom. I am certainly not accusing you personally of being a bad person, but your tree indeed is quite rotten.
 
RomanCrusader said:
I judge the tree by its fruit, Tom. I am certainly not accusing you personally of being a bad person, but your tree indeed is quite rotten.
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Hello There, Well its seems like from your post that ā€œSomeone eat the food and didnā€™t burpā€
 
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