Islam as a system of life

[trdchubi]

I think this thread is very disturbing. You sound like Nazis only its Muslims rather than Jews you are now spreading hatred of.

This is not the way of Christ.

Yes it is also not the way of Christ to let our brother and sisters fall on the** BIG **lies of muhammad and his quran.

James 5:19-20 says it clearly.

19 My brothers and sisters, if any of you wander away from the truth and another one brings them back again, 20 remember this: whoever turns a sinner back from his or her wrong way will save that sinner’s soul from death and bring about the forgiveness of many sins.

 

[ferdie]

I should add that whenever someone doesn’t like the message I have heard quite often they start calling them nazis. And I never figured that God would not want us to use our brains! He gave them to us and unlike the muslims who are told not to question, discuss and think for themselves - we do indeed believe that we have that right, and it is not a sin to do so.

nazism is a fascism - just as communism is. It is the ‘either you are with us or you are against us’ mentality.

Well, that brings up another interesting subject concerning islam. ** The muslim brotherhood and its direct ties to the Nazis.

The mufti of Jerusalem had a great influence on Hitler and his starting up the ethnic cleansing of the Jews. **

islam and nazi ties

Arab-Hitler

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The muslim brotherhood is an offshoot of the mufti of Jerusalem - Al Husseini. As is Saddam Hussein, Arafat, Al Qaeda, Hamas, the Saudi wahabbism (which is being taught in over 1,000 mosques in the USA now) and the MSA which is a tool that the muslim brotherhood uses on our campuses.**

Video of Brigette Gabriel from Thomas More Law Center (page down)

I have links to the documents they have found in the USA and in Europe, if you would like them - just let me know. And the STATED goals of the muslim brotherhood, using the MSA, in our schools is clearly outlined. The video above shows Brigette Gabriel talking about it and her work on it (I belong to her organization and did research on it, that is why I have some of these links).

CAIR is also a tool of the saudis, or muslim brotherhood.

Over and above these tools by the saudis and muslim brotherhood to radicalize muslims is the koran itself. It is not hard to radicalize since all the fuel for it is in there. When a muslim wants to try to convince us that islam is peaceful - they use the abrogated, Meccan, surahs. They always leave out that they are abrogated and that when in dar al harb (our infidel lands) they are in a state of war. War in islam does indeed include bloodshed and all the atrocities associated with it, but they define it as ‘opening up the world to islam’.

Peace can only be attained in islam by us infidels being either killed, converted or subjugated. And the intent is not necessarily to kill or convert us - but it is to subjugate us - to bring us all under sharia law. Where infidels have absolutely no rights at all - or their ‘farce’ of what they call rights to practice our religion. Other than that infidels have no rights if crimes are committed against them, to vote, or anything.

But, to a muslim sharia law is a perfect set of laws. It even has laws concerning their potty behavior. (I never got an answer if they have ‘potty’ police - those who go in and make sure they are doing it correctly and if not, what is the penalty!) There are other inane points in sharia law. The article goes into some of them.

sharia law

Not a lot of people know the ties of the Grand mufti of Jerusalem and the Nazi. This is well documented. People need to wake up, specially the so called “peaceful” muslims. They are the ones who can turn this thing around, not the non-muslims.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

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Salaam/peace

Not a lot of people know the ties of the Grand mufti of Jerusalem and the Nazi. .

I won’t be surprised if some Christians start claiming that Hilter was a Muslim ( search , u may find his Shahada he gave to the Grand mufti of Jerusalem). Also , it’s the Muslims who killed their Lord.

 

[ferdie]

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Salaam/peace

I won’t be surprised if some Christians start claiming that Hilter was a Muslim ( search , u may find his Shahada he gave to the Grand mufti of Jerusalem). Also , it’s the Muslims who killed their Lord.

No I don’t think so. Only brainwashed people will start believing twisted things like that.
But tell me, you do not believe the ties between the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the Nazi party?

 

[R_not]

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Salaam/peace

I won’t be surprised if some Christians start claiming that Hilter was a Muslim ( search , u may find his Shahada he gave to the Grand mufti of Jerusalem). Also , it’s the Muslims who killed their Lord.

No, he wasn’t a muslim - and you were on the thread that talked about that last year.

But, I can see that this must have ‘hit home’ - more whining.:crying:

 

[R_not]

I will post these again. Unlike the muslims on this thread we are able to admit to problems while the muslims will only whine, ignore, deflect, etc

Hitlers opinion of Islam.

“Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of distinguished Arabs. When the Mohammedans attempted to penetrate beyond France into Central Europe during the eighth century, his visitors had told him, they had been driven back at the Battle of Tours. Had the Arabs won this battle, the world would be Mohammedan today. For theirs was a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and subjugating all nations to that faith. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament. [emphasis added] Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire. [emphasis added] Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking, You see, its been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didnt we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?”

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About Hitler and the muslims: “After he had crushed them, he tortured the Jewish leader to death (does this remind you of Mumbai?), took their land and made the Jews Islam’s first dhimmis. Dhimmis had no civil rights and had to pay a tax of half of all their income to Islam. Then on his deathbed, Mohammed banished the Jews from Arabia. His annihilation of the Jews in Arabia was 100%, better than Hitler
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Hitler hated Jews, but it was not until the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem gave him the idea of extinction (taken from the Sunna of Mohammed when he annihilated the Jews of Medina), that the death camps were planned. Only 6.8% of Mein Kamph is Jew hatred, whereas, 10.6% of the Medinan Koran is involved in Jew hatred. So the Koran of Medina has more Jew hatred than Mein Kamph, but who is counting?”

The above was gotten from ‘Refuting Counterterrorism Dhimmi’

I got this from a post from the discussion about Hitler and his religion.

I don’t know why I post this stuff for muslim woman - she never reads the websites. I suppose then it makes it easier for her to keep writing the stuff she writes.

Hitler’s Christianity

Here is a separate article on the palestinian Arabs and Hitler.

Hitler’s speech on Armenian genocide by the muslims and no one noticed:

In his book What about Germany?, Lochner offered the following English translation of the document then in his possession:

Our strength consists in our speed and in our brutality. Genghis Khan led millions of women and children to slaughter—with premeditation and a happy heart. History sees in him solely the founder of a state. It’s a matter of indifference to me what a weak western European civilization will say about me. I have issued the command—and I’ll have anybody who utters but one word of criticism executed by a firing squad—that our war aim does not consist in reaching certain lines, but in the physical destruction of the enemy. Accordingly, I have placed my death-head formation in readiness—for the present only in the East—with orders to them to send to death mercilessly and without compassion, men, women, and children of Polish derivation and language. Only thus shall we gain the living space (Lebensraum) which we need. Who, after all, speaks to-day of the annihilation of the Armenians?—p. 11–12

 

[chrisse]

I agree with Sana :console:.

chrisse , those were harsh words.

One in nine Christians are living in persecution, mostly in Islamic nations - persecution under the laws of allah : shariah - unchangeable. 1400 years of persecution, enslavement, genocide, ethnic cleansing of non-muslims.

I’m sure they’d appreciate only getting harsh words.

My statement stands.

 

[R_not]

One in nine Christians are living in persecution, mostly in Islamic nations - persecution under the laws of allah : shariah - unchangeable. 1400 years of persecution, enslavement, genocide, ethnic cleansing of non-muslims.

I’m sure they’d appreciate only getting harsh words.

My statement stands.

This is the consequences of threads like this. You might offend someone and they don’t care if there are Christians, and others, who are being persecuted by muslims - they sit in their houses all safe and sound.

Many listen only to our mainstream media, or are now taught in our schools, that islam is good and Christianity is bad - and israel is evil and make sure to call them zionists so as to start dehumanizing them and forget the over 6,000 bombs that the muslims have lobbed into their country since 2005.

We have the MSA in our schools teaching many a biased slant on islam and what is happening there is that a whole heck of a lot of young adults are being brainwashed into the ‘islam is good and others are bad’, and they don’t learn the real history of the Crusades, or other jihads - heck, they are too afraid to talk about the Armenian massacre that influenced Hitler for fear of offending muslims.

the MSA has direct ties to the muslim brotherhood and their stated goal is to establish sharia law in our lands. To not necessarily convert us, but to subjugate us.

But, my point is that they have indeed already infiltrated our schools. Just as the Marxist/communists have done for more decades than the MSA - we have seen what they have turned out - left wing idiots believing that our Republic/society is bad, socialism is good and gee, the muslims must be ok since they have been told that islam is peaceful and so was their prophet. they don’t have a clue!

Anyway, I don’t agree that you were harsh, but others do and they will always bring up the ‘you are a bad Christian’ stuff. It is a favorite thing for muslims to do when they have absolutely nothing else.

I have even had the Catechism, Vatican II, etc all quoted to me - as if what I post is a sin. It is not.

The cruelty is on the muslim’s side and they have a different world view - definitions for such things.

they have basically twisted war, hiding behind children, brainwashing their children to hate/to be jihadists, etc as normal behavior. That we are the bad ones who are persecuting them when we call them to task about such things. War to them is ‘opening the world to islam’ along with all the atrocities that their jihadists do - just don’t do it against the jihadists THEN it is an atrocity and ONLY THEN will they speak up.

 

[chrisse]

This is the consequences of threads like this. You might offend someone and they don’t care if there are Christians, and others, who are being persecuted by muslims - they sit in their houses all safe and sound.

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I have even had the Catechism, Vatican II, etc all quoted to me - as if what I post is a sin. It is not.

The cruelty is on the muslim’s side and they have a different world view - definitions for such things.

they have basically twisted war, hiding behind children, brainwashing their children to hate/to be jihadists, etc as normal behavior. That we are the bad ones who are persecuting them when we call them to task about such things. War to them is ‘opening the world to islam’ along with all the atrocities that their jihadists do - just don’t do it against the jihadists THEN it is an atrocity and ONLY THEN will they speak up.

Thank you R_Not, The moral relativists get up my nostrils

The islamic system of life is a complete degradation of the human body and soul; it is retrograde step not the 7th Century, but to the most primitive man 40,000 years ago. As a woman, who this cult degrades to the status of a breeding beast (and I’m being polite here), I will not be silenced from speaking out for future generations.

The current Arabian Night fantasy being perpetrated by our academia, media and many politicians is political and criminal negligence. What I pray for is that the tide turns before it is too late.

 

[Booklover]

Thank you R_Not, The moral relativists get up my nostrils

The islamic system of life is a complete degradation of the human body and soul; it is retrograde step not the 7th Century, but to the most primitive man 40,000 years ago. As a woman, who this cult degrades to the status of a breeding beast (and I’m being polite here), I will not be silenced from speaking out for future generations.

The current Arabian Night fantasy being perpetrated by our academia, media and many politicians is political and criminal negligence. What I pray for is that the tide turns before it is too late.

Vickie

 

[R_not]

islam - a system of life.

It seems the clerics have double duty - they are heading up the war against infidels. This ‘system of life’ that islam is mean the clerics are the officers in the war.

jihadist training in Yemen.

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Al Iman U students are training to go fight in Gaza in new camps, or old camps that are operating openly now, financially supported by Iran. The al Iman students were instrumental in Somalia. The article seems to say they will be training at the University itself, which is an existing training facility with Ali Mohsen’s military camp right next door. The camps will accept volunteers from outside Yemen as a global hub for training fighters in support of Hamas.

Naba news : Well-informed sources of the “Naba” newspaper report Yemen opened a camp to receive the first volunteers in support of the Palestinian people in the Gaza Strip…. According to the source, Yemen was prepared to receive the volunteers at the University of faith, which is headed by Sheikh Abdul Majid al-Zindani, and will both Iran and Qatar to support the camp, and the processing of volunteers.

Saleh ordered all state employees to donate one day’s salary to the resistance in Gaza, and other funds have been collected around the country. President Saleh’s nephew Yahya Saleh, Commander of Central Security, is also coordinating support for Gaza. He’s very active in social causes. Almotamar.net reports The Tent for Arab Resistance, chaired by Yahya Saleh, Chairman of Kenam Society for Palestine, will be holding a variety of events. (Yahya Saleh also set up a mourning tent when Saddam was executed and hosted a variety of symposiums in support of the Iraq resistance.)

Well, I haven’t written this in quite some time, but it seems that the clerics are the ‘officers’ of armies leading the jihad. HOw many mosques were caught with weapons caches in them?

 

[greystoke]

I think this thread is very disturbing. You sound like Nazis only its Muslims rather than Jews you are now spreading hatred of.

This is not the way of Christ.

Read the Quran. I read it just after reading Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Guess which was more hate filled, and vehement in its incitement to violence?

Islam is a “religion” in the same sense as Nazism or Communism. And the best candidate for the Antichrist, if you bother to read the Quran and the Hadiths, is their prophet. Hitler and Stalin had the benefit of modern methods of killing. Mahommad did pretty well for his time with swords. That war is still going on after 1400 years.

Are we supposed to approve slavery, rape, murder, extortion, oath breaking, torture, etc? To speak out is sinful?

Interestingly, the vast majority of women, according to Mahommad, go to hell, including victims of rape etc. Paradise is full of the rapists, slavers, murderers, etc…

I only pray that of the Church, the “gates of hell shall not prevail against it”.

I think we are witnessing the gates of hell, aided and abetted by political correctness, which facilitates Islam in the war on truth.

 

[Muslim_Woman]

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Salaam/peace

Read the Quran. I read it just after reading Hitler’s Mein Kampf. Guess which was more hate filled, and vehement in its incitement to violence?.

LOL , ever read OT ? U find Jesus (p) very merciful ?
He instructed there to destroy the whole city even kill domestic animals if people worship other deity.

 

[R_not]

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Salaam/peace

LOL , ever read OT ? U find Jesus (p) very merciful ?
He instructed there to destroy the whole city even kill domestic animals if people worship other deity.

Once again for the millionth time - or is it the godzillionth time - there was no command by God to keep on slaughtering people throughout the millenia - as it is in islam.

 

[Aydan]

if Islam is truly a way of life then tell me this why does the not address people with disabilities? I started a thread about this issue and would like Muslims to answer some questions on my thread if possible
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=4701429#post4701429?rd=
no one has been able to give me a straight answer for my questions.

 

[swariffin]

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Salaam/peace

I won’t be surprised if some Christians start claiming that Hilter was a Muslim ( search , u may find his Shahada he gave to the Grand mufti of Jerusalem). Also , it’s the Muslims who killed their Lord.

There is no way that Hitler was a Muslim. He might not even know what Islam is?

 

[Muslim_Woman]

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Salaam/peace

no one has been able to give me a straight answer for my questions.

Muslims participants are very few here ; i’ts hard for us to read each post & ans.

If u read Quran , if u know about the life of the last Prophet (p) , u will see God ordered us to be kind not to only Muslims but even to strangers. One verse is like that:

And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but Allah. treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise regular charity… ( chapter 2, verse 83)

Muhammed (p) always helped those who were in need. An old lady used to put thrones in his path & when she bacame sick , he went to her home & helped her . Once he saw an old man with a heavy load , he offered his help to carry load. That man did not know him & told that he is leaving this place to avoid Muhammed (p) & statred saying bad things about him . When they reach the destination & old man thanked Muhammed (p) & asked his name & learnt that he is Muhammed (p) , he uttered his Shahada.

PS. The forum is full of anti Islamic posts. It’s hard to notice who asked questions to really know about Islam . If anyone has sincere curiosity about Islam & it’s not answered in the related thread , then pl. pm me .

 

[ferdie]

There is no way that Hitler was a Muslim. He might not even know what Islam is?

Swaraffin**,** Read** Icon of Evil by David Dalin.** I am promoting this book for those who do not know the connection of the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and the Nazi party. Read** about Haj Amin al-Husseini**. Read the exchange of letters between the al hussein, and Hitler.

 

[Booklover]

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Salaam/peace

Muslims participants are very few here ; i’ts hard for us to read each post & ans.

If u read Quran , if u know about the life of the last Prophet (p) , u will see God ordered us to be kind not to only Muslims but even to strangers. One verse is like that:

And remember We took a covenant from the Children of Israel (to this effect): Worship none but Allah. treat with kindness your parents and kindred, and orphans and those in need; speak fair to the people; be steadfast in prayer; and practise regular charity… ( chapter 2, verse 83)

Muhammed (p) always helped those who were in need. An old lady used to put thrones in his path & when she bacame sick , he went to her home & helped her . Once he saw an old man with a heavy load , he offered his help to carry load. That man did not know him & told that he is leaving this place to avoid Muhammed (p) & statred saying bad things about him . When they reach the destination & old man thanked Muhammed (p) & asked his name & learnt that he is Muhammed (p) , he uttered his Shahada.

PS. The forum is full of anti Islamic posts. It’s hard to notice who asked questions to really know about Islam . If anyone has sincere curiosity about Islam & it’s not answered in the related thread , then pl. pm me .

How do you reconcile the stories above with Muhammad’s behavior in having people assassinated for simply writing satyrical poems about him?

Muhammad and his personal enemies

Muhammad’s excessive cruelty

Muhammad’s dead poets society

Vickie

 

[greystoke]

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Salaam/peace

LOL , ever read OT ? U find Jesus (p) very merciful ?
He instructed there to destroy the whole city even kill domestic animals if people worship other deity.

And Jesus is in the NT. I think you are mixing things up. The OT patriarchs often called for war and destruction.

I have read the OT. In its entirety. There is plenty of hate there as well as calls for mercy. But when Moses collected the Pentateuch together, he was a lot more tolerant of the attitudes of his forebears than I would be.

Neither Judaism nor Christianity today calls for the extermination/enslavement/forceable conversion/persecution of non-believers. Islam does.

If Christians imitate Jesus, they are someone you would love to have as your neighbor. If Muslims imitate Mahommad, they are murderers and an existential threat to their infidel neighbors.

Jesus was the exact opposite of Mahommad.