Islam is BAD!!!

[Harris]

Not at all. I appreciate that you have taken the time to reply to my reply.

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Peace to you, Harris. Thanks for your honest answers and questions.

Thank you for a well thought of response. I appreciate that.

Peace be to you too.

 

[Harris]

Unfortunately, Muslims determine what is ‘good’ and what is ‘evil’ by allowing the Imans to decide for them.

Which is why we have so many suicide bombers attacking, under the protection of Islam. Claming to further the work of the Prophet by killing innocent lives. In hopes of entering into paradise.

The first paragraph is simplistic generalization.

The second paragraph is untruth.

But since this is a free world, such statements I supposed, are allowed.

Do you think such statements will make bountiful conversion? Do you think it will benefit your religion or not? I don’t know, but I think the answer would be interesting to hear.

 

[KenEOTE]

The first paragraph is simplistic generalization.

The second paragraph is untruth.

But since this is a free world, such statements I supposed, are allowed.

Do you think such statements will make bountiful conversion? Do you think it will benefit your religion or not? I don’t know, but I think the answer would be interesting to hear.

Actually it is the exact thing hamba2han says about Christianity. All I did was switch Christian for Muslim and vice versa. It was showing the ignorance of such people as hamba2han.

 

[KenEOTE]

The first paragraph is simplistic generalization.

The second paragraph is untruth.

But since this is a free world, such statements I supposed, are allowed.

Do you think such statements will make bountiful conversion? Do you think it will benefit your religion or not? I don’t know, but I think the answer would be interesting to hear.

Can you explain how the second statement is untruth when we find that the terroritsts and homicide bombers are claiming to be doing the work of Allah. That there are posters made of them and they are considered Hero’s by many Muslims?

 

[Harris]

Actually it is the exact thing hamba2han says about Christianity. All I did was switch Christian for Muslim and vice versa. It was showing the ignorance of such people as hamba2han.

I didn’t go through his posts and I agree if it’s the case, it’s always unfortunate to persist with ignorance. …

 

[Harris]

Can you explain how the second statement is untruth when we find that the terroritsts and homicide bombers are claiming to be doing the work of Allah. That there are posters made of them and they are considered Hero’s by many Muslims?

It is untruth because you began by saying Muslims. Now that statement has been toned down to ‘many Muslims’.

 

[KenEOTE]

I didn’t go through his posts and I agree if it’s the case, it’s always unfortunate to persist with ignorance. …

That was fine. I lterally took his post and re worded it to get a rise out of him. I knwo not very nice.

Personally I do have many good muslim friends and I do not think all muslims are bad people for the record. I feel for them because I think a few have hijacked thier faith and twisted it. The same has happened to Chrsitianity on different occasions.

I am not sure what can be done or said to keep it from happening. Men will always take things and twist it to what they want and then prey upon the weaker to carry out the evil they have intended.

 

[KenEOTE]

It is untruth because you began by saying Muslims. Now that statement has been toned down to ‘many Muslims’.

treu I should have said many or some muslims I apologize for that. It was a poke at Ham since he generealized and said pretty much all Christians do this or that.

 

[R_not]

While muslim woman and sister amy laugh over why people pray… maybe this poor sould could use some prayers. muslims don’t pray for dishonored women, and just say that they usually deserve this type of inhumanity because they were not subservient enough, or didn’t do something and brought dishonor… ad nauseum. Could it be that the perpetrator of this crime was nothing but a psychopath and knows all he has to say is ‘honor killing’ (or something similar) and no one will bother him.

Here is an example of an ‘honor killing’, but the woman did not die. She probably wanted to after the acid hit her, and how she will look when she is healed. Oh, remember too that many women cannot go to hospitals since it is up to the male to grant that and many times they can only be seen by women doctors if they are allowed to go to the hospital. But, if women cannot go to school…

sheikyermami.com/2008/08/18/islam-elevates-women-update/

 

[R_not]

That was fine. I lterally took his post and re worded it to get a rise out of him. I knwo not very nice.

Personally I do have many good muslim friends and I do not think all muslims are bad people for the record. I feel for them because I think a few have hijacked thier faith and twisted it. The same has happened to Chrsitianity on different occasions.

I am not sure what can be done or said to keep it from happening. Men will always take things and twist it to what they want and then prey upon the weaker to carry out the evil they have intended.

If the ‘religion’ is hijacked as so many Westerners like to apologize about - then why don’t the masses of ‘moderates’ do something about that instead of worrying about how we view their image?! No, they do nothing because there is nothing hijacked in islam. It is as we view it. the jihadists torture and kill, while the moderates deceive and support the jihadists.

Italian writer Oriana Fallaci, said: **“A moderate Islam does not exist. It does not exist because there is no difference between Good Islam and Bad Islam. There is Islam and that it the end of it. Islam is the Koran, and nothing other than the Koran.“ **(Oriana Fallaci”The Force of Reason” post-script page 305 February 2006)]

 

[R_not]

This is a reminder both to myself and also to everyone here:

For Christians, the Truth comes only from Christ and is therefore good and falsehood is evil.

Whereas the Muslims approach towards the Truth would be → “good” must be the Truth and “evil” must be falsehood.

Unfortunately, Muslims determine what is ‘good’ and what is ‘evil’ by allowing the Imans to decide for them.

Which is why we have so many suicide bombers attacking, under the protection of Islam. Claming to further the work of the Prophet by killing innocent lives. In hopes of entering into paradise.

Well then, if evil is falsehood then why do they tell so many of them? Falsehoods that is.

this is where logic does not come in to islam at all. It would logically follow that if what you say is true then the masses of ‘moderates’ are evil because they practice deception which is indeed sanctioned in the koran. We had a whole thread on this - until it was shut down.

 

[KenEOTE]

If the ‘religion’ is hijacked as so many Westerners like to apologize about - then why don’t the masses of ‘moderates’ do something about that instead of worrying about how we view their image?! No, they do nothing because there is nothing hijacked in islam. It is as we view it. the jihadists torture and kill, while the moderates deceive and support the jihadists.

Italian writer Oriana Fallaci, said: **“A moderate Islam does not exist. It does not exist because there is no difference between Good Islam and Bad Islam. There is Islam and that it the end of it. Islam is the Koran, and nothing other than the Koran.“ **(Oriana Fallaci”The Force of Reason” post-script page 305 February 2006)]

I am not disagree with you, I think that perhaps they should come out and condemn them. I think anytime people are murdered in the name of a religion that those who are part of that faith should come out and condemn those actions.

 

[R_not]

I am not disagree with you, I think that perhaps they should come out and condemn them. I think anytime people are murdered in the name of a religion that those who are part of that faith should come out and condemn those actions.

that is what I am trying to say to you - it is OK IN ISLAM TO KILL INFIDELS! I have posted time and again so many passages that say it is ok to torture and kill us that I won’t do it again, unless you want to see them again. And they even kill each other if they are of a different sect of islam. This is where the deception lies - those so called ‘moderates’ cannot just come out and say that to us or else they know that we will take action/precautions and they ALWAYS claim victimhood when their jihadists start the violence while they DO NOTHING TO STOP IT.

But, the part of it being ok to kill infidels is written quite often in the koran and hadiths. That is why it is ok - we are lower than pigs, dogs and feces. We do not have the same rights in muslim lands - we have no rights if we don’t pay the jizya tax next to nothing if we do. And these are the laws they practice in their communities IN OUR LANDS and have stated time and again that they want to replace our constitution with.

CAIR has stated it time and again - oh yeah, I know that all the muslims will chirp up and say that CAIR doesn’t represent them. It isn’t convenient for them to represent them when it looks bad, but ok when they feel threatened or are not getting some demand met.

 

[hamba2han]

Although I have asked this so many times before, I think that I might as well try my luck one more time in the forlorn hope that someone here would actually answer the question.

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Are there any “moderate” Catholics on these boards who would categorically say that this is an act of evil which directly contravenes one of the Ten Commandments never to bow down to statues and graven images?

 

[Sister_Amy]

Notice you say what a funny joke, but you do not deny the second part of my quote:

** if Muslims are offended they threaten to Kill people and blow people up.**

As I said Sister Amy and Ham the forces that came in to free the Afghani from the Taliban and the Iraqi’s from the clutches of Sadaam, were multi race, and multi religion. It was not 100 percent Christian forces. I hate to tell you as I already stated there were actually Muslims in the military that were over there fighting to free them too. Lets keep that on the down low so you can continue to wallow in your ignorance… Wallow hmm that is something the three little pigs might do. Goodness. Hope that didn’t offend anyone.

I have been offended on this very forum more times than I can count.

How many times have I threatened to kill people and blow people up?

Seriously. You should get to know some Muslims and stop making these silly generalizations, which even if true apply only to a fraction of Muslims, among the impoverished and uneducated.

Reality is out there waiting for you, whenever you’re ready.

 

[KenEOTE]

Although I have asked this so many times before, I think that I might as well try my luck one more time in the forlorn hope that someone here would actually answer the question.

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Are there any “moderate” Catholics on these boards who would categorically say that this is an act of evil which directly contravenes one of the Ten Commandments never to bow down to statues and graven images?

No more evil then the millions of muslims who bow before a cube in Mecca.

When are you going to explain your Japanese statement?

 

[hamba2han]

No more evil then the millions of muslims who bow before a cube in Mecca.

When are you going to explain your Japanese statement?

Quite a few posters on these boards have a strange habit of “answering” a question with another altogether unrelated question.

 

[KenEOTE]

I have been offended on this very forum more times than I can count.

How many times have I threatened to kill people and blow people up?

Seriously. You should get to know some Muslims and stop making these silly generalizations, which even if true apply only to a fraction of Muslims, among the impoverished and uneducated.

Reality is out there waiting for you, whenever you’re ready.

Actually I work with alot of Muslims. I am friends with many. The ones I know condemn the acts of the terrorists openly. They also support the efforts of the America Troops in Iraq and Afgan. Most of them are political refuges from those countries.
I only made the generalization after Ham made his about Christians. I assumed it was fair play.
You of course have nemer made any silly generalizations have you? Oh wait you did when you presumed it was Christians only in Iraq and Afgan. I see only one side can make silly generalizations.

 

[KenEOTE]

Quite a few posters on these boards have a strange habit of “answering” a question with another altogether unrelated question.

Yes and you are one of those posters.

 

[Angelos]

I will accept this explanation. But it also tells us that comparing Islam and Christianity is like compring apple and orange.

Muslims will of course tell you that Christianity is incomplete, in the sense that it is almost difficult to follow completely in this worldly life. You encounter a situation which is not prescribed in the teaching of Christianity and you’d be at a loss on how to deal with it. You condemn killing yet Christians do that. Why would Christians kill in a certain legitimate situation and still be approved by the church? Christianity does not deal with earthly reality and it is easy to condemn others who has a teaching on how to deal with it.

In my earlier posts in the other thread I mentioned that Islamic doctrines do cover on what to do in a war situation, which would be a far better option than to have no teaching at all on it.

This is not to say that teachings like loving your enemy or giving the other cheek is bad. Only that you do not have practical answers on what to do when you actually cross the situation.

Although Christianity does not deal with earthly “things”, it does not forbid mankind from devising and adapting laws to solve their mundane problems. Christ’s statement “Give to Ceasar what belongs to Ceasar” underlines this fact. Unlike Islam, the NT has no problem with earthly governments and authorities.