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Sam_777
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Please always read the Bible commentaries as you do for your Quran:
Commentary #1:
“*What does Revelation 14:10 mean?
Will men or angels be tormented with fire and brimstone, for ages and ages?”
“Similarly, just as Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, the fire and brimstone which are mentioned in Revelation 14:10, are obviously something that will be used to destroy “Babylon”, a city (see Revelation 14:8). That fire will not “torture people for ever”; it will destroy a city (see also Revelation 18:9). A note: Before the Lord will cause that city to be burned, he will send a warning to people, “come out of her” (see Revelation 18:4). But of course, those who will not do that, will be destroyed, along with that city.”
“Revelation 14:11 has the word basanismos; the 1769 KJ version renders that as “torment”. That same word occurs also in Revelation 18:7, 10 and 15. Above, it was translated as “testing/trial”. It was related to basanos which was a black stone used for testing the purity of gold, a “touch stone”. Genuine gold left a yellow streak when rubbed on a basanos. But, the word basanismos meant, not only “test” but also “trial”. By extension, basanismos could also refer to the agony of battle or of a sickness. The verb-form basanizô meant subjecting something or someone to a test or trial, and also, examining closely or cross-questioning. And unfortunately, as governments were even in those days, such “questioning” often meant being subjected to torture. Thus, the old Greek word basanismos came to be used of torture as well.*”
Commentary #2:
“*This scripture clearly tells us that this is a specific judgment on those who took the mark of the beast and worshipped him.” For some reason this obvious detail is frequently overlooked by “traditionalists”.
The verses also state this will take place “in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb.” This should prove that this penalty is not an unending, conscious, torturous existence, because observing such a punishment is not the destiny that Yeshua or the angels will choose to spend all of eternity. Such a concept is a rather grotesque, if not ludicrous, representation of our eternity with our heavenly Father, His making of all things new, and His promise in the book of Hebrews to remember our sins (and thus the consequence) no more.
This passage, therefore, would indicate that those people who are still alive at Christ’s second coming, and who have worshipped the Beast and received his mark, will be tormented and destroyed, in the presence of Jesus and the angels, by burning sulphur raining down from Heaven.
The words “torment” and “tormented” in Revelation 14:10, 11 and 20:10 as stated previously, come from the Greek root words basanizo and the related basanismos. Friberg’s Analytical Lexicon says that basanisthesontai means “strictly, rub upon the touchstone (βάσανος), a Lydian stone used to test the genuineness of metals; hence, test or make proof of anything . . .”
When we read that those people who accept the mark of the beast will be “tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb,” and that “the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever,” we can now understand this Scripture as follows: Those who accept the mark of the beast will be tested and tried for genuineness (basanisthesetai) with fire and divine incense (theio) in the presence of the holy angels and Christ. The smoke of their testing and trying (basanismou) will go up for a long, indefinite time (eis aionas aionon)*."
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