Islam = violence

[Catherine_S]

We agree in principle…Islam is yet to face it’s **“reformation”…**but we disagree with the particulars.

Islam is so like protestant fundamentalism…if one group appears a “little moderate” in their thinking another fundamentalist group springs us. A" kill for Allah" mentality especially directed at Christains is the age old refrain and motivation.
These groups have been killing Christains for years and it is still going on all over the middle East. Catholic Answers Radio July 2nd. catholic.com/radio/calendar.php **Update on the Middle East. **
It is high time that Christains around the world came to understand this and joined hands to help the Christains in these countries. Prayer and more prayer…even for the enemy!
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http://www.catholic.com/library/endless_jihad.asp
The prospect of modifying Islam’s doctrine regarding violence is problematic. Although some Muslims in history have tried to “spiritualize” the Quran’s declarations regarding violence, **there is always a countervailing fundamentalist push to return to the sources of Islam and take them literally. **

Indeed, this reaction is what characterizes the Wahhabite movement that dominates Saudia Arabia and inspired Osama bin Laden’s ideology. Philosopher Roger Scruton notes that in the Wahhabite view, **“whoever can read the Quran can judge for himself in matters of doctrine.” **

This attitude, which is tantamount to an Islamic version of sola scriptura, is likely to prove as durable in Muslim circles** as it has been in Protestant Fundamentalist circles**. As long as that is the case, there will be fresh waves of Muslim “martyrs” willing to take the Quran’s statements on killing literally, apply them to today, and then hurl themselves into combat with whomever they perceive as “the Great Satan.”
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[Booklover]

To those of us in the West, peace exists when two or more groups are able to live together in mutual respect with neither group oppressing the other. We tend to believe that being peaceful means accepting our differences with others and engaging in dialog when issues arise; and that peace requires that neither side resort to employing acts of violence, or threats thereof, to resolve conflicts.

Westerners generally believe that peaceful people are those who refrain from committing acts of violence; the exception perhaps being when it becomes absolutely necessary as an act of defense or self-preservation. To us, being peaceful requires each of the opposing sides to abandon their collective anger, to permit past grievances to be forgiven. Most importantly, peace demands that we see others not as our enemies, that we not seek out our differences and that which divides us, but that we seek that which we have in common with our fellow humans.

And yet, those aspects of the Western ideal of peace also represent the antithesis of what one finds in the Qur’an. To the Western mind, dhimmitude, which is based on principles of oppression, cannot constitute part of a truly peaceful society. The same also holds particularly true for the barbaric laws and punishments set forth both within the Qur’an and by the various schools of Islamic jurisprudence. Islamic Sharia laws and regulations based on primitive moral standards, that both permit and require acts wholly intolerable to the modern world, certainly have no place within a peaceful society. Yet, as bewildering as it may seem to the Western mind, unconditional submission to those archaic laws, and the primitive moral standards on which they are based, are the exact conditions required for the Islamic ideal of a peaceful society to exist.

The Islamic version of peace has nothing to do with an idyllic coexistence between Muslims their fellow human beings. An Islamic society is deemed peaceful in the same sense that a prison can be considered peaceful; the ruling clerics acting as the wardens, subduing the will, the desires, and personal freedoms of the detainees. In Western societies, absence of conflict is based on the mutual regard of the opposing sides. In Islam, absence of conflict is based on oppression, on eliminating and preventing conflict via subjugation and brute force.

news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1394

Vickie

 

[1Peter318]

A question for the Muslims or anyone who knows. If Islam is so peaceful why is there so much violence in muslim countries?
Why is Islam promoted as a peaceful religion?

notislam.com/