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inJESUS:
and why arent people nowadays turned into apes? was it only for that time-period? if yes, then it is no threat anymore, and people wont be turned to apes and lizards and rats anymore…that’s in hinduism i guess.
There is a whole world out there now who does not believe in your concept of God,…yet your God is not becoming man again to save them from the Hell-fire. Your view of God of Love, could have easily incarnate when Adolf Hitler was on his boody compaign to kill millions of God’s holy people-Jews by justifying his actions from his Holy Bible. Did your God of LOVE showed any mercy even after the death of more than 50 million at the hands of Adolf Hitler?
 
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pleaseanswer:
There is a whole world out there now who does not believe in your concept of God,…yet your God is not becoming man again to save them from the Hell-fire. Your view of God of Love, could have easily incarnate when Adolf Hitler was on his boody compaign to kill millions of God’s holy people-Jews by justifying his actions from his Holy Bible. Did your God of LOVE showed any mercy even after the death of more than 50 million at the hands of Adolf Hitler?
what a deep answer indeed; God is not a slave to our sins.
Did Hitler base his killing on the Bible? which verse?
 
Though Hitler was certainly no Muslim, he did have an affinity for the Islamic religion, which he compared favourably against the Christianity in Germany. Albert Speer, Hitler’s wartime Minister of Armaments and Munitions, records in his memoirs,

"Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of Arabs. When the Mohammedans attempted to penetrate beyond France into Central Europe during the eighth century, his visitors had told him, they had been driven back at the Battle of Tours. Had the Arabs won this battle, the world would be Mohammedan today. For theirs was a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and subjugating all nations to that faith. The Germanic peoples would have become heirs to that religion. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the Germanic temperament. Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate and conditions of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.
"Hitler usually concluded this historical speculation by remarking, 'You see, it’s been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn’t we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness…"5
 
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inJESUS:
…God can become a human yet not reveal his full knowledge to us.
because the Father is not flesh but Jesus was flesh as well…yet I and the Father are ONE…Who has seen me has seen the Father…no one knows the Father except the Son and no one knows the Son except the Father…why do you call me Good? only God is good…I AM THE **GOOD **
SHEPHEARD.

Why should God act according to your whims/interpretation/limited view?

God does whatever He Wills. It is for Him as THE CREATOR to act/do whatever He likes.

You are His a tiny creature who cannot fully understand/grasp His true Nature or Whole Wisdom.

For you to say, God can become a man or should or must become a man, simply because you misread your own Holy Bible, is interfering the God’s Activity/Business. You should mind your own tiny business as His tiny creature. You cannot dictate God, what he must do and what not.

Then I would ask:

**Can your view of God, act like a monkey?
Can your God create an another God?
Can your God throw you OUT OF HIS DOMINION?
Can your God also go to bathrooms for toilet after becoming a man and eating and drinking and becoming a gluttonous man
and a winebibber? **

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pleaseanswer said:
Why should God act according to your whims/interpretation/limited view?

who said He does?
God does whatever He Wills. It is for Him as THE CREATOR to act/do whatever He likes.
who said otherwise?
You are His a tiny
creature who cannot fully understand/grasp His true Nature or Whole Wisdom.who said i do?
For you say, God can become a man or should or must become a man, simply because you misread your own Holy Bible, is interfering the God’s Activity/Business.
what? can God take a human nature as well or cant he?
You should mind your own tiny business as His tiny creature. You cannot dictate God, what he must do and what not.
you are the one dictating what God CANNOT do, not me 😉
Then I would ask:
**Can your view of God, act like a monkey?
Can your God create an another God?
Can your God throw you OUT OF HIS DOMINION?
Can your God also go to bathrooms for toilet after becoming a man and eating and drinking and becoming a gluttonous man
and a winebibber? **
i sense some agitation 🙂 cool down…what ae you talking about exactly? 🙂
 
Dear inJesus,
First please answer my above post.I will answer to your question regarding Hitler and his atrocities and from where did he get the justifications for his “peaceful” actions for massacring millions of people which includes 6 million Children of God (Jews).
 
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pleaseanswer:
Dear inJesus,
First please answer my above post.I will answer to your question regarding Hitler and his atrocities and from where did he get the justifications for his “peaceful” actions for massacring millions of people which includes 6 million Children of God (Jews).
i sincerly did not understand your last passage…please paraphrase it…
 
I simply ask you again:

**Can your view of God, act like a monkey?
Can your God create an another God?
Can your God throw you OUT OF HIS DOMINION?
Can your God also go to bathrooms for toilet after becoming a man and eating and drinking and becoming a gluttonous man
and a winebibber? **

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pleaseanswer said:
I simply ask you again:
when i say i didnt get the questions, it means that i did NOT.
Can your view of God, act like a monkey?
who is acting like a monkey?
Can your God create an another God?
do you mean how did God create Jesus who is God? if this is what you mean, then am afraid you have no idea what the trinity is about.
Jesus is eternal…he only took a human form from Mary , but Jesus as God is eternal.
Can your God throw you OUT OF HIS DOMINION?
which means?
Can your God also go to bathrooms for toilet after becoming a man and eating and drinking
you mean Jesus…but he was a human as well.
and becoming a gluttonous man
and a winebibber?
who are you talking about here?
 
Dear inJesus,

Then let me ask you one by one.

**You say God can become a man thus he did become a man and Jesus was God in 100% form of man. Right?

Now, before becoming 100% man, can your God also become an ant?

And can God also become a monkey and then act like a monkey?

I am sure you know how monkey acts and obviously God too must know how monkey acts because it is He who created monkies. So, can God after becoming a monkey do some monkey tricks?**
 
Jesus was 100% God, 100% man…He is God who took a human body yet retaining his divinity…is it impossible on God?

God is omnipotent; he can do whatever He likes…isnt your allah omnipotent as well?

My God does not do tricks; allah does since he is called a schemer and a deceiver in quran…and it is allah who made the famous trick on the cross.
 
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pleaseanswer:
Dear inJesus,

Then let me ask you one by one.
**You say God can become a man thus he did become a man and Jesus was God in 100% form of man. Right?

Now, before becoming 100% man, can your God also become an ant?

And can God also become a monkey and then act like a monkey?

I am sure you know how monkey acts and obviously God too must know how monkey acts because it is He who created monkies. So, can God after becoming a monkey do some monkey tricks?**
This is a serious question, debated by medieval theologians. I would say no, because animals are not created in God’s image in the way humans are. Animals do not have a “rational soul.” Human beings were created to mediate between the physical creation and God in the first place. We are not simply animals like all the other animals.

Edwin
 
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Contarini:
This is a serious question, debated by medieval theologians. I would say no, because animals are not created in God’s image in the way humans are. Animals do not have a “rational soul.” Human beings were created to mediate between the physical creation and God in the first place. We are not simply animals like all the other animals.

Edwin
i personally did not get his implications…did u? is he questioning God’s omnipotence or something else?
 
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inJESUS:
Jesus was 100% God, 100% man…He is God who took a human body yet retaining his divinity…is it impossible on God?
God is omnipotent; he can do whatever He likes…isnt your allah omnipotent as well?
My God does not do tricks
; allah does since he is called a schemer and a deceiver in quran…and it is allah who made the famous trick on the cross.

Your point exactly?

Dear inJesus,

It is me asking you about the capabilities of your God because it is you who believes that God became a 100% man. And when I said no, you said, your God can do anything and everything is possible for your God.

Now I asked you whether your God can become a monkey and do some monkey tricks, you said your “God does not do tricks”.

Now let me stop you right here. You can ask me later whether my God can do the same or not.

So I repeat your answer: YOUR GOD DOES NOT DO MONEKY TRICKS.

Now, are you saying that your God is so limited or incapable of not doing simple MONKEY TRICKS?

If your God can come-down to this earth or let me put it this way:

Your God was actually born as a man to a Jewish lady, by making her pregnant/impure for 9 months, then came out from his mother’s womb like any other 100% human being, got circumcised when he was 8 days old.

It means that extra skin your God’s penis was cut and thrown-out when he was 8 days old. Where that extra-piece was thrown out please tell me and where it is now?

Then he was taken to Egypt (Africa) and raised there for atleast two years because King Herod ordered to kill all infants in Bethlehem and surrounding areas. (Herod must be greater than your God’s capabilities, because your God had to be taken to Egypt to save your god’s life from your God’s creature–King Herod). :confused:

Anyway then your God at the age of 30, began his ministry, got tempted by the Devil (the Devil too must be greater than your God :confused: )

Then according to the Holy Bible, your God used to eat, drink wine…then he must have gone to the bathrooms for urinating and call of nature 😉 ). So all these was possible for your God to do after becoming a 100% man.

Now ARE YOU TELLING ME that your God did all these but HE CANNOT DO SOME MONKEY TRICKS by BECOMING A MONKEY?

Please answer.

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pleaseanswer said:
Dear inJesus,
It is me asking you about the capabilities of your God because it is you who believes that God became a 100% man. And when I said no, you said, your God can do anything

and everything is possible for your God. yes God is omnipotent.
Now I asked you whether your God can become a monkey and do some monkey tricks, you said your "God does not do tricks
". i meant that God is not a tricker; it did not mean he CANNOT do tricks.
Now let me stop you right here. You can ask me later whether my God can do the same or not.
So I repeat your answer: YOUR GOD DOES NOT DO MONEKY TRICKS.
He can if He wants…but the idea in itself is derogatory.
Now, are you saying that your God is so limited or incapable of not doing simple MONKEY TRICKS?
nop i didnt say this.
If your God can come-down to this earth or let me put it this way:
Your God was actually born as a man to a Jewish lady, by making her pregnant/impure for 9 months, then came out from his mother’s womb like any other 100% human being, got circumcised when he was 8 days old.

It means that extra skin your God’s penis was cut and thrown-out when he was 8 days old. Where that extra-piece was thrown out please tell me and where it is now?
i dont know…why should it matter? should we even look for his infant clothing?
Then he was taken to Egypt (Africa) and raised there for atleast two years because King Herod ordered to kill all infants in Bethlehem and surrounding areas. (Herod must be greater than your God’s capabilities, because your God had to be taken to Egypt to save your god’s life from your God’s creature–King Herod). :confused:
yes indeed you are confused. Why do you fail to see Jesus as a man as well?
Anyway then your God at the age of 30, began his ministry, got tempted by the Devil (the Devil too must be greater than your God :confused: )
He was human , forgot?
Now ARE YOU TELLING ME that your God did all these but HE CANNOT DO SOME MONKEY TRICKS
by BECOMING A MONKEY? God can do whatever He wants…but would a God do it?
 
I believe God can do whatever He wants…i don’t know the thelogical/philosophical answers to questions like yours coz i didnt feel the need to ask such questions…If am mistaken, others who have read such topics will correct me…God can take a human form coz humans are made after his image…So i believe God taking a human form is not derogatory…
 
InJesus dont waste your time. Pleaseanswer your profile says you are protestant, I am sure our protestant friends on this board would LOVE to answer/question you on how you view God and Jesus :eek:
 
Sorry to tell you that God cannot do everything. I read your posts.

You may ask, can God create an another God equal to HIM?
The answer is NO.

You may also ask, can God become a transitional link of Darwin’s view?
The answer is due on previous Pope because he did indeed accept Darwin’s theory as more than a hypothesis.
But to me, God did not create any transitional links; he created Man as an unique creature with intellect. Now He cannot become that “missing link” which he did not choose to create man through Darwin’s evolutionary assumption.

You may ask: Can God become a wild uncivilised man like Hitler?
The answer no, there is no need for God to become a man, in the first place.

All men (good or bad) are His creatures. God is The Creator. The Creator do not have to become His own creature.

The Holy Torah says, God is not a man. Thus there is no question of God becoming a man. Because God is Invisible too.

Then you may ask, what God does then?
I would say: God only does Godly things. Whatever suits His Majesty He does but He is not going to tell you or give you the whole list of what those Godly things He can do or does.

Let me be clear to you, God never became a man nor there is a need to become a man. He chooses good people among men to guide the whole humanity.
Because if someone thinks that God can become a man but not animal, then a clever man will ask:

Can people spit on God who came to earth as 100% man?

Can sinners beat and kick God with their feet, who came to earth as 100% man?
I would say: see these are very serious questions. I cannot imagine God who is Holy and Good and Powerfull, can be beaten and spitten by the sinners.

God forbid to mention all these “possibibilities”.

It is really a very SERIOUS question, we all should think the implication of beleiveing that god can become a man (his creature).

The Soul that sins it shall die.
 
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Contarini:
This is a serious question, debated by medieval theologians. I would say no, because animals are not created in God’s image in the way humans are. Animals do not have a “rational soul.” Human beings were created to mediate between the physical creation and God in the first place. We are not simply animals like all the other animals.

Edwin
It is true that Pleaseanswer question is a Very Serious Question.

But If you think God can become a man and 100% perfect man, then can he commit sins or atleast a sin?
You would say no. Then I would ask: Well if God cannot commit sin then does he atleast have the ability to commit sin(s)?

If you say yes God has the ability to commit sin but never sinned. Then I would ask: So atleast God has the weakness of commiting sin though he never sinned. Then God was not a 100% perfect man because he indeed had the weakness of commiting sin(s).

If you say: well, he did not have the weakness of sin.

Then I would say God was not the man. Because the defintion of a man is the one who can commit sin and has the ability or weakness of commiting sin(s).

Then I would further ask, can he go to the toilets to excrete and to urinate after eating and drinking?

I am sure you would say yes. Then are you saying that God went to the toilets to excrete and to urinate?
Why does Holy God needs to go to toilets?

If somehow you say: No he never went to toilets because he had some extra ordinary ability or He was exempted from call of nature weakness. Then I would ask: Who exempted Him? Was he Himself not God? If you say He himslef altered His own human body differently than all other human beings…then again the serious question arises: he was not a 100% man, as we are.

As you can see, in any scenario, God cannot become a man neither there is a need for Him to become a man by going against his own statements in the Holy Torah (i.e.* God is not a man* …and…He is invisible).

Once you see God, He is not anymore to be called invisible, thus Holy Torah’s statement will be voilated/contradicted. But He does not lie because He is not a man, says the Holy Torah, again. Thus the difficulty remains as is, if you believe that God became a man. It is better to reject the very idea of God becoming a man.

The soul that sins, it shall die.
 
teddybear2000 said:
It is true that Pleaseanswer
question is a Very Serious Question.

But If you think God can become a man and 100% perfect man, then can he commit sins or atleast a sin?
You would say no. Then I would ask: Well if God cannot commit sin then does he atleast have the ability to commit sin(s)?

If you say yes God has the ability to commit sin but never sinned. Then I would ask: So atleast God has the weakness of commiting sin though he never sinned. Then God was not a 100% perfect man because he indeed had the weakness of commiting sin(s).

If you say: well, he did not have the weakness of sin.

Then I would say God was not the man. Because the defintion of a man is the one who can commit sin and has the ability or weakness of commiting sin(s).

Then I would further ask, can he go to the toilets to excrete and to urinate after eating and drinking?

I am sure you would say yes. Then are you saying that God went to the toilets to excrete and to urinate?
Why does Holy God needs to go to toilets?

If somehow you say: No he never went to toilets because he had some extra ordinary ability or He was exempted from call of nature weakness. Then I would ask: Who exempted Him? Was he Himself not God? If you say He himslef altered His own human body differently than all other human beings…then again the serious question arises: he was not a 100% man, as we are.

As you can see, in any scenario, God cannot become a man neither there is a need for Him to become a man by going against his own statements in the Holy Torah (i.e.* God is not a man* …and…He is invisible). pleasanswer’s account is under examination and suddenly we see you… 😃 i dont have enough time but you obviously did not differentiate between Jesus the man and Jesus the God.
Once you see God, He is not anymore to be called invisible
, thus Holy Torah’s statement will be voilated/contradicted. But He does not lie because He is not a man, says the Holy Torah, again. Thus the difficulty remains as is, if you believe that God became a man. It is better to reject the very idea of God becoming a man. Jesus is the secondhead of the Trinity- still God is invisible 😉

The soul that sins, it shall die.
 
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