Islamic indoctrination case - La Plata High School, Maryland

[oldcatholicguy]

History can be taught without baptizing, circumcision and professing or reciting the tenants of Islam’s indoctrination. You insult the legitimacy of the education system.

History can be taught the same way congress passed laws against the morals of Christianity to kill our unborn children. Under the protection of the constitution for the U.S to separate church and state. When the U.S courts outlawed the display of the 10 commandments in our courthouses, by which our laws of the land are based upon.

If the U.S can pass laws such as these, then our schools can teach religion that is held by historical figures, but not teach any religion of indoctrination to a religion.

Your point does not address Mr. Woods concern of Islamic indoctrination of the teaching curriculum. Your view appears to lay with the ignorance of the teacher, school board faculty, the school boards official document which are all ignorant of Islam’s indoctrination.

Would you object to this same teacher, taking simple water and demonstrating a physical baptism with the Trinity pronounced?? Do you think a Muslim parent or Jewish parent would object to this same teacher demonstrating a Christian baptism, or a Jewish circumcision?? This is Mr. Woods concern, which the school is ignorant of.

I insult the educational system? Funny, I don’t remember being the one who claims teachers, school board faculty, and school board officials are all ignorant concerning Islam.

As for demonstrating a physical baptism with the Trinity pronounced, I’m pretty sure Baptism requires more than water on one’s head and some words. I’ve been through at least 7 (my own and my children’s) and I don’t remember the priest slapping some water on the forehead, saying a few words about the Trinity, and then say “congrats, you’re Catholic, don’t eat meat on Fridays.”

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

As for Mr. Woods, rather odd everyone seems to forget the reason he went to a lawyer at all was because he was banned from the school after getting verbally abusive with school employees and threatening to come to the school and stop classes if the school continued to use it’s state approved curriculum which it has been using for years and which he apparently had no issue with prior to this.

Thank you for the blessings; Everyone understands why Mr. Wood went to the school to protect his daughter, as a father and as one who is professionally trained to protect all the innocent both foreign and domestic enemies of our freedoms and liberties.

When Mr. Wood was met with ignorance of his concerns, the school lacked the education of dealing with Mr. Woods concerns for his daughter. The school is lucky this battle warrior at the threat of his daughters soul and salvation kept his faculties about himself and did not act as a professional.

It’s too bad, Mr. Woods retained an attorney to protect his daughter and fight against the Islamic indoctrination of ignorant students and faculty.

If it is a state approved curriculum to indoctrinate students into Islam by Islam’s indoctrination, then the state approved curriculum needs to change and it’s leadership needs to be educated.

It would not surprise me, of all the ignorance of Islam existing in our educational systems, how much of Islam is being introduced and indoctrinating our children into Islam silently.

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

I insult the educational system? Funny, I don’t remember being the one who claims teachers, school board faculty, and school board officials are all ignorant concerning Islam.

As for demonstrating a physical baptism with the Trinity pronounced, I’m pretty sure Baptism requires more than water on one’s head and some words. I’ve been through at least 7 (my own and my children’s) and I don’t remember the priest slapping some water on the forehead, saying a few words about the Trinity, and then say “congrats, you’re Catholic, don’t eat meat on Fridays.”

I would suggest you visit the Filioque thread, it answers your false pretense discipline of a triple immersion only baptism.

What you have been taught about baptism, is not the whole Truth about a valid baptism.

Do you know what it takes for one to become a Muslim of Islam? It is very simple, just a recitation is all it takes, take it from Mr. Woods who lived in the Middle East with Muslims and or ask one of your friendly Muslims.

Oh, I see you profess to be an old Catholic? You think your Catholic without a full communion. Your disposition from your posts are beginning to make sense to me now.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

I would suggest you visit the Filioque thread, it answers your false pretense discipline of a triple immersion only baptism.

What you have been taught about baptism, is not the whole Truth about a valid baptism.

Do you know what it takes for one to become a Muslim of Islam? It is very simple, just a recitation is all it takes, take it from Mr. Woods who lived in the Middle East with Muslims and or ask one of your friendly Muslims.

Oh, I see you profess to be an old Catholic? You think your Catholic without a full communion. Your disposition from your posts are beginning to make sense to me now.

-I’m old and I’m Catholic and I’m a guy. But, thank you for being the only one on this forum to ever attempt to invalidate my comments by claiming I belong to the “Old Catholic” faith.
-I’m not talking about triple immersion. I’m talking about the rather simplistic idea you have that Baptism consists of a)water on the forehead and b) some words by a non-priest (since you specifically mentioned a teacher doing this) about the Trinity.
-I know what you think it takes to become a Muslim. I’ve pointed out twice, this being the third time, that by your own faulty understanding of what it takes to be a Muslim you have converted to Islam since you recited the Shahada earlier in this thread. All we are really waiting on to confirm your conversion is a Muslim to acknowledge they say your comment in which you recited the Shahada. This of course if we are to believe your faulty understanding of what it takes to convert to Islam is true.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

Thank you for the blessings; Everyone understands why Mr. Wood went to the school to protect his daughter, as a father and as one who is professionally trained to protect all the innocent both foreign and domestic enemies of our freedoms and liberties.

When Mr. Wood was met with ignorance of his concerns, the school lacked the education of dealing with Mr. Woods concerns for his daughter. The school is lucky this battle warrior at the threat of his daughters soul and salvation kept his faculties about himself and did not act as a professional.

It’s too bad, Mr. Woods retained an attorney to protect his daughter and fight against the Islamic indoctrination of ignorant students and faculty.

If it is a state approved curriculum to indoctrinate students into Islam by Islam’s indoctrination, then the state approved curriculum needs to change and it’s leadership needs to be educated.

It would not surprise me, of all the ignorance of Islam existing in our educational systems, how much of Islam is being introduced and indoctrinating our children into Islam silently.

Your bold- So not only do you insult Mr. Woods by implying he is not acting like a real soldier or veteran by not engaging in force and violence to get his way, you insult all of us veterans and soldiers by implying that force and violence is our answer to everything. Would you care to also imply that we (yes I’m a vet) enjoy killing people?

 

[Brandon_Cal]

Show me some good evidence that this actually happened the way Mr. Woods claims it happened and maybe I’ll start to get outraged by it. So long as all we have as corroboration are Mr. Woods’ own words, communicated to us through notoriously biased websites such as World Net Daily, I’m going to chalk this up to outraged parent who has no idea what he’s talking about.

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

Your bold- So not only do you insult Mr. Woods by implying he is not acting like a real soldier or veteran by not engaging in force and violence to get his way, you insult all of us veterans and soldiers by implying that force and violence is our answer to everything. Would you care to also imply that we (yes I’m a vet) enjoy killing people?

I am amazed how you put words into ones mouth that is never spoken either by myself or Mr. Woods. I will not reveal my military experience here because I would not allow you to disgrace my great sacrifice I suffer for my country. I am here to express my faith I practice and to reveal any misunderstanding of my Catholic faith.

I am not here to win a popularity contest with you. If this is your position please allow me to be the first to congratulate you of your win.

Peace be with you

 

[oldcatholicguy]

I am amazed how you put words into ones mouth that is never spoken either by myself or Mr. Woods. I will not reveal my military experience here because I would not allow you to disgrace my great sacrifice I suffer for my country. I am here to express my faith I practice and to reveal any misunderstanding of my Catholic faith.

I am not here to win a popularity contest with you. If this is your position please allow me to be the first to congratulate you of your win.

Peace be with you

“The school is lucky this battle warrior at the threat of his daughters soul and salvation kept his faculties about himself and did not act as a professional.”

Please explain what you actually meant by this then. Why was the school lucky that he kept his faculties about himself and didn’t “act as a professional”? What would a professional “battle warrior” do? Knit them a nice sweater?

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

“The school is lucky this battle warrior at the threat of his daughters soul and salvation kept his faculties about himself and did not act as a professional.”

Please explain what you actually meant by this then. Why was the school lucky that he kept his faculties about himself and didn’t “act as a professional”? What would a professional “battle warrior” do? Knit them a nice sweater?

My comment reflected the positive side of Mr. Woods action, in direct contrast to your insults against Mr. Woods action taken by you in a negative way to suggest all this case is by Mr. Woods own fault from his verbal words and gestures for being barred from the school premises where his own daughter attends, while defending his own daughter from what is a known fact about Islam’s indoctrination.

I reveal to you Mr. Woods a professional warrior, did not use his professional protective practices to protect his daughter. Mr. Woods acted as any Father would who fears for their child’s well being.

But you neglected to see Mr. Woods circumstance for what it really is to an experienced warrior in a Muslim land, when he see’s Islam indoctrinating his own daughter in a land he is sworn to defend.

Now can we get back to the thread, instead of attacking my character, this is getting a little tiring. I don’t feel any needs to defends one’s character here, when ones character should never be a subject of discussion.

Peace be with you

 

[oldcatholicguy]

My comment reflected the positive side of Mr. Woods action, in direct contrast to your insults against Mr. Woods action taken by you in a negative way to suggest all this case is by Mr. Woods own fault from his verbal words and gestures for being barred from the school premises where his own daughter attends, while defending his own daughter from what is a known fact about Islam’s indoctrination.

I reveal to you Mr. Woods a professional warrior, did not use his professional protective practices to protect his daughter. Mr. Woods acted as any Father would who fears for their child’s well being.

But you neglected to see Mr. Woods circumstance for what it really is to an experienced warrior in a Muslim land, see Islam indoctrinating his own daughter in land he is sworn to defend.

Now can we get back to the thread, instead of attacking my character, this is getting a little tiring. I don’t feel any needs to defends one’s character here, when ones character should never be a subject of discussion.

Peace be with you

So, why exactly was it a good thing that Mr. Woods didn’t “act as a professional” due to his ability to keep “his faculties about himself”? How would a professional had acted?

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

So, why exactly was it a good thing that Mr. Woods didn’t “act as a professional” due to his ability to keep “his faculties about himself”? How would a professional had acted?

That’s for anyone reading these post to balance and gage Mr. Woods action, especially to those who take the small action by Mr. Woods in any negative way, about the seriousness of his daughters education, when no one should question or blame fault on any parent who addresses and questions the schools teaching curriculum of Islam.

Mr. Woods is not under shariah law, but acts on his freedom and liberties to express his freedom which he bravely fought for and protects, without having to be a professional about it, but acted as any concerned Father would, considering his direct knowledge with Islam and Muslims.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

That’s for anyone reading these post to balance and gage Mr. Woods action, especially to those who take the small action by Mr. Woods in any negative way, about the seriousness of his daughters education, when no one should question or blame fault on any parent who addresses and questions the schools teaching curriculum of Islam.

Mr. Woods is not under shariah law, but acts on his freedom and liberties to express his freedom which he bravely fought for and protects, without having to be a professional about it, but acted as any concerned Father would, considering his direct knowledge with Islam and Muslims.

None of which answers my query as to what you meant by- “The school is lucky this battle warrior at the threat of his daughters soul and salvation kept his faculties about himself and did not act as a professional.” How would a professional have acted; and why was the school lucky Mr. Woods kept his faculties and didn’t act like one?

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

None of which answers my query as to what you meant by- “The school is lucky this battle warrior at the threat of his daughters soul and salvation kept his faculties about himself and did not act as a professional.” How would a professional have acted; and why was the school lucky Mr. Woods kept his faculties and didn’t act like one?

Re-read post #52 very slowly. I have answered your negative respond towards a War warrior in Mr. Woods with my positive response about Mr. Woods being a War Warrior.

The legal action taken by Mr. Woods addresses the Islamic indoctrination.

You falsely misjudged Mr. Woods by implying, it was his fault for his reason to reach out for legal action, because he was kicked off the campus and by his demeanor.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

Re-read post #52 very slowly. I have answered your negative respond towards a War warrior in Mr. Woods with my positive response about Mr. Woods being a War Warrior.

Just finished re-reading post #52 and I did so very slowly. Yep, still not an actual response to my query about the school needing to be thankful that Mr. Woods kept his faculties about himself and didn’t act like a professional. How exactly would a professional have acted?

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

Just finished re-reading post #52 and I did so very slowly. Yep, still not an actual response to my query about the school needing to be thankful that Mr. Woods kept his faculties about himself and didn’t act like a professional. How exactly would a professional have acted?

We who have seen battle with an enemy first hand on the battle field, need no comment.

I can appreciate a professional such as Mr. Woods and thank him for taking the action he did, so should all the members of the free world and give ear the first time to such heroes concerns in our midst, before drawing false conclusions of his character.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

We who have seen battle with an enemy first hand on the battle field, need no comment.

I can appreciate a professional such as Mr. Woods and thank him for taking the action he did, so should all the members of the free world and give ear the first time to such heroes concerns in our midst, before drawing false conclusions of his character.

You claimed that Mr. Woods didn’t act like a professional. In fact, you stated that the school should be thankful that Mr. Woods didn’t lose his faculties and act like a professional. How would a professional, which your statement clearly indicates Mr. Woods did not act like, have acted?

And speaking as a combat vet, yes there does need to be comment on the idea that a soldier or vet would act in some sort of violent manner if he or she was unable to keep their faculties.

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

You claimed that Mr. Woods didn’t act like a professional. In fact, you stated that the school should be thankful that Mr. Woods didn’t lose his faculties and act like a professional. How would a professional, which your statement clearly indicates Mr. Woods did not act like, have acted?

And speaking as a combat vet, yes there does need to be comment on the idea that a soldier or vet would act in some sort of violent manner if he or she was unable to keep their faculties.

Simply put; A professional carpenter or plumber is not going to build or plumb plumbing around a faculty member just because a professional carpenter or plumber objects to a subject that indoctrinates his daughter into the religion of Islam.

These professionals need not be judged negatively for objecting to such a teaching curriculum.

 

[oldcatholicguy]

Simply put; A professional carpenter or plumber is not going to build or plumb plumbing around a faculty member just because a professional carpenter or plumber objects to a subject that indoctrinates his daughter into the religion of Islam.

These professionals need not be judged negatively for objecting to such a teaching curriculum.

Well that clears up what a carpenter or a plumber would have done. What are you claiming that a soldier would have done, which thankfully for the school Mr. Woods didn’t act like because he kept his faculties?

 

[Gabriel_of_12]

Well that clears up what a carpenter or a plumber would have done. What are you claiming that a soldier would have done, which thankfully for the school Mr. Woods didn’t act like because he kept his faculties?

History has already spoken on the matter of Mr. Woods, no need to speculate any further. Let us be thankful, Mr. Woods has taken legal action and did not act according to your negative comment about his character attack by his demeanor.

 

[livingwordunity]

I don’t really know the details of this case but the equating of religions is itself a judgement call and ultimately leads to the rejection of all.

That is why studies such as comparative religions is indoctrination because it takes as its base the legally binding viewpoint of the equality of all religions.

It is a moral precept. The logical conclusion if one is to study under the forced moral and legal view that one is no better than another, means that when one is flawed they all must be.

When studying politics there is no moral equivalence between Democracy and Despotism, or constitutional Monarchy and Dictatorship.

Yet too many secular courses on religion are ‘balanced’ to the point of absurdity. If we study democracy and despotism then we study the affects and make analytical judgements between the two with regards to which is fairer and more beneficial. That is basic education and investigation of the subject.

In comparative religions there is no educational analysis allowed, it is often a tool to indoctrinate students on the equality of world religions.

No education system worth it’s salt would force kids to see constitutional monarchy and dictatorships as the same without allowing critical investigation and discussion.

In this way the comparative religions social studies program is deeply flawed.It does not promote critical thinking but indoctrination.

As I said above, I do not know the details well enough in this case to discuss properly but i’d suspect my sympathies would be with the father and his daughter.

Well said.