Islamic prayer

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inJESUS:
no the word Christian is masihi in arabic not nasrani,.the word masihi was used since the first century…nasara started as believers but deviated later when araianism, ebionism ecc merged with their doctrines.
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Do Christians believe that they are the “annointed ones” or do they believe that Jesus is the “annointed one”
 
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Faith101:
Do Christians believe that they are the “annointed ones” or do they believe that Jesus is the “annointed one”
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Jesus was the Christ - a greek word meaning ‘anointed’ - why?
 
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inJESUS:
no the word Christian is masihi in arabic not nasrani,.the word masihi was used since the first century…nasara started as believers but deviated later when araianism, ebionism ecc merged with their doctrines.
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The word Messiah in arabic is Maseeh…referring to Jesus. How would it be appropriate to call christians the plural word of Messiah?
Christ, from the Greek in english known as Χριστός, or Khristós, means anointed, and is equivalent to the Hebrew term Messiah. In the Christian religion it is a title given to Jesus of Nazareth. In this Christian context, as a title of a singular being, it, i.e. “Christ” is capitalized and is properly preceded by the definite article which gives us in proper theological English “Jesus the Christ”. … (wikipedia)
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Faith101:
The word Messiah in arabic is Maseeh…referring to Jesus. How would it be appropriate to call christians the plural word of Messiah?
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because the word Messiah has a meaning : the annointed.

Masihiyyen are followers of the Masih.
 
in the same way Maseeh and Masihiyeen, Christ and Christians : Maseeh (in arabic and Hebrew)= Christ in Greek.
 
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Muslim:
a mass or those service is no technically a prayer, its more of a community service, etc. which is still good as you usually have God in your mind.
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Actually, according to Catholic theology, the Mass is a prayer; the most important Christian prayer of all. Everything, from the scripture readings, to the recitation of the Creed, to the Eucharist, is a prayer.
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Muslim:
To us, when we pray, we pray individually but in groups and all facing the same direction to show unity (kind of hard to understand).
the typical prayer (the physical part) can take anywhere from 5min to 30min, 5 times a day.
however, if you include where people read the Qu’ran, go to the Mosque to discuss and listen to “sermons” it might take hours and some people even stay the whole night during the month of Ramadan. However, you can come in anytime and leave anytime for those because we have other real life obligations to our family, jobs, etc. i try to say prayers all 5 times per day but its hard cause of school and my work… but you can make it up which i am going to in a little bit anyways
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How interesting.
I hear you on the school and work part.
Just keep praying.
 
cestusdei said:
Faith,
At least you tried to respond. So you admit the quran does not contain everything we need. It never says how to pray or even that we should do exactly as Muhammed did in prayer. There is no clear instruction on how to pray and even Muslims disagree on certain details. And why should we need a mere man, like Muhammed, to tell us how to pray? Muslims don’t need intercessors or clergy right?

Therefore, if you are really Muslim you don’t have to pray 5 times a day in a certain prescribed fashion. You just have to pray when you feel led to do so. And you can pray whichever way you like. If another Muslim says you are wrong and must do it some other way then you can ignore him. You don’t need anyone to tell you what to do.

Even more importantly it should lead you to question the quran. If it is silent on such an important matter then maybe it really isn’t the greatest revelation. Maybe it is inadequate. Something to think about.

PS: Yes, I’ve read the quran.
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With due respect, Arabic is written in the true language, read from right to left. Seeing left to right is ephemeral and illusory.”What is seen is transient, what is unseen is eternal.’(2 Cor.4:18). Our image in the mirror is illusory.
The holy Prophet Mohammed requires us to pray five times a day to remind us that our home is in Heaven, not here on earth. That is also why the Angelus is recited thrice a
day. The apostles constantly prayed at sunrise at the break of day (Acts1:14) at the ninth hour (Acts3:1).at noon (Acts10:9) at sunset when the lamps were lit at night (Acts16:25).The church has the liturgy of the Hours.
Matins and Lauds as morning, Terce, Sext and None during the day. and Vespers at evening. Compline is the final prayer before going to bed.
The holy Pope has prayed in a Syrian mosque and kissed the Holy Quran. As ‘Faithof Abraham’ has posted,
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This gesture shows how great this man is. His greatness is not fully realized during his lifetime by his adversaries but during his death it came to bloom. Many Muslim clerics attended his funeral and went through the entire Catholic funeral mass. It could be diplomatic thing but it demonstrated his influence on the world at large.

For the Muslims to step foot in the Cathedral of St Peter to participate in the mass perhaps is no different than when the Pope kissed the Koran - a sign of respect for each other. We can never imagine Muslim clerics would step into St Peter had it not been for the magnanimity of the Pope during his lifetime.

His would be murderer was personally forgiven by him, and the man as a result could only said good words about the Pope. This is, I guess, the fruit of Jesus’ teaching - if a man hits you on one cheek, offer him the other.

Love and peace overcome Communism. Many commentators credit the Pope as the forerunner of turning Communist Europe into capitalism. The fall of Communism was prophesied in Fatima by Mary through the vision of the three children at that time.

Thus God is still at work to save his people.’
In November, the Vatican has scheduled a Muslim Christian dialogue.
Christ did not die for religion, but for ‘the world’ (John3:16).
 
LilyM said:
What is the deal with the prayers having to be in Arabic? I think I read somewhere that the Arabic version of the Koran is also supposed to be better somehow?!? As if God only speaks Arabic! At least we Catholics have learned the lesson that using an unfamiliar language can actually be a hindrance to worship rather than a help.
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That is why I believe Islam is for the Arab people only.
 
cestusdei said:
I notice that none of the Muslims here have touched this thread. Hmmm…
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Why should they respond to yet another thread designed to draw them into an useless argument that will result in more mocking of their faith?
 
Valke2 said:
Why should they respond to yet another thread designed to draw them into an useless argument that will result in more mocking of their faith?
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In case you haven’t noticed, this is an old thread that somebody revived yesterday. CestusDei hasn’t posted in a long while.

Vickie
 
This an old thread, and I kind of wanted to say some things, but it is old. Is there some information on here about maybe a more learned view of Islam, I mean from Catholicism? Like Church teaching or in the context of Churchs relationship to Non-Catholic religions. There is such a statement right, one of the Vatican 2 ones, something like that?

Not everyone has a pope so one should take with a grain any thing said about Protestants, or Hindus, or even Islam cause there just isn’t one thing. “On the one hand you have this, and on the hand you have this interpretation, but then you have . . .” That is the only method or way I understand things like this.
 
Muslim said:
a mass or those service is no technically a prayer, its more of a community service, etc. which is still good as you usually have God in your mind. To us, when we pray, we pray individually but in groups and all facing the same direction to show unity (kind of hard to understand).
the typical prayer (the physical part) can take anywhere from 5min to 30min, 5 times a day.
however, if you include where people read the Qu’ran, go to the Mosque to discuss and listen to “sermons” it might take hours and some people even stay the whole night during the month of Ramadan. However, you can come in anytime and leave anytime for those because we have other real life obligations to our family, jobs, etc. i try to say prayers all 5 times per day but its hard cause of school and my work… but you can make it up which i am going to in a little bit anyways
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Actually Catholics claim the Mass is a prayer
 
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